I think the thing that kills me about some of the kid-centric ones Tuomas is mentioning is how, after taking a class in children’s lit in college, I realized how the writing is pretty bad even for something targeted to five year olds. Not across the board, but it’s pretty clear that they’re just shoveling them out to sell toys. Nothing is as bad as Thundercats, though. Like, nice character ideas here, but yikes
― untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 22:58 (six years ago)
i made a playlist once + maybe posted it to the adventure time thread. my #1 vote. xxp
― Mordy, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 22:59 (six years ago)
oh cool ok!
― imago, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:00 (six years ago)
Adventure Time is very good but I felt like I've seen too random a selection of episodes to give it votes. Have to rate Steven Universe higher even on an unlimited-size ballot. But a good showing for the millennial contingent. And uh anyone under 20 that has somehow joined ILX
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:00 (six years ago)
I tried watching Adventure Time years ago and I gave up sometime in the first season, I didn't find the hijinks at all funny.
One thing though is that I swear there's a Portishead song that the AT theme cribs from.
― Johnny Grottan from the Skeks Pistols (Leee), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:03 (six years ago)
My vote for Adventure Time probably would've been higher had I seen more of it, but I was smitten enough by the chunk I did watch back in the day to rate it pretty high up anyway. It's very very good.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:08 (six years ago)
I liked Futurama a lot when first broadcast, but didn't have the slightest inclination to check back with the revival, for some reason. There were some DVD comeback movies which were pretty bad IIRC, maybe that killed my interest.
I followed AT closely for several seasons and still rank it highly, I think they started to go a bit too far away from adventure and into surrealism at one point though. This is probably a bit reductive, but it felt like AT (and Regular Show) revitalised kid's TV animation for several years, along with all the shows that emerged in their wake. There was a period of time before AT when Cartoon Network had resorted to showing live action tween sitcoms.
― Duane Barry, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:18 (six years ago)
There were some DVD comeback movies which were pretty bad IIRC, maybe that killed my interest.
I think I held the same opinion (probably still do), but when it was (re-?)revived, its quality recovered a lot, and the finale is genuinely beautiful.
― Johnny Grottan from the Skeks Pistols (Leee), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:21 (six years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/LqkfNe8.jpg
2. Bojack Horseman258 points, 15 votes, 1 firsts
I LOATHED the episode that I saw of that.
i like bojack but i did not vote for it. i don't think it's this good tbh
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:22 (six years ago)
steven universe is also a thousand times better than adventure time but my affection for adventure time's whole thing is p boundless. still didn't vote for it, v uneven show
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:23 (six years ago)
blah blah complacent self-regarding ilxbait blah
it was my #5, it really is a staggering achievement
yeah the latest season was a slight letdown but that's after FOUR SEASONS of increasingly amazing, world-building material
can't think of much else that melds high drama and bonkers surrealism quite so elegantly either
― imago, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:24 (six years ago)
It requires a lot of investment, I think. At first I was pretty dismissive of it just being edgy and insulting and etc but it has a lot of nuance, and as the show went on the stories became very bleak and personal and engaging.
xpost re Bojack
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:24 (six years ago)
plus it knows when and how to knock out an event episode
― imago, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:25 (six years ago)
AT‘s first three seasons, just like the first half of NGE, are to be watched in very small doses, if at all.
― oder doch?, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:25 (six years ago)
pfft what
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:26 (six years ago)
One good thing about Bojack I guess is that I automatically feel a spiritual affinity with people who likewise despise it.
― Johnny Grottan from the Skeks Pistols (Leee), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:26 (six years ago)
Yes trayce, I knew right away who gave furama the #1 vote!
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:27 (six years ago)
Yeah I voted for Bojack but second is bananas
― rob, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:28 (six years ago)
Me vmic ;_;
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:28 (six years ago)
Leee, if you've only seen one ep of Bojack you wont have caught its mood/point at all, its very much a longform show.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:29 (six years ago)
wow insane showing for this
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:29 (six years ago)
FOUR SEASONS of increasingly amazing, world-building material
counterpoint: the first season is at least half garbage
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:29 (six years ago)
Ya I think I had bojack in the mid teens. Really surprised by #2.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:29 (six years ago)
this show starts off sucking ass let us not forget
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:30 (six years ago)
I probably would've voted for Bojack in my top 3. But I also have a 20 yr gap for animated tv.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:30 (six years ago)
i only watched the first season but i don't really care for shows where 'just keep going until episode #532 thats where it clicks'. either sell me at the start or be episodic so i can skip the start
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:32 (six years ago)
TBF well-known good show The Wire isn't arresting TV until several episodes into its first season.
― Johnny Grottan from the Skeks Pistols (Leee), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:33 (six years ago)
i think the show's appeal is pretty clear by the end of the first season though unless it really pulls a 180
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:34 (six years ago)
some of these reactions are a little funny given what's about to place
― rob, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:34 (six years ago)
I'm going to laugh my arse off if the expected #1 doesnt happen.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:35 (six years ago)
― rob, Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:34 PM (twenty-three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
that show has sucked ass for ages but it started p good let us not forget
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:35 (six years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/d5gF7fK.jpg
1. Family Guy524 points, 35 votes, 4 firsts
― Johnny Grottan from the Skeks Pistols (Leee), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:36 (six years ago)
lmao
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:36 (six years ago)
*golf clap*
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:37 (six years ago)
:D
― imago, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:37 (six years ago)
i'm dying
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:37 (six years ago)
I’m the only number 1 for Bojack! That is a surprise. It’s like the best drama series ever. There’s something about giving such flawed and human scripts to cartoon animals that makes its window to society all the more vivid. I am so invested in all of these horrible characters, and their downfalls and redemptions at the hands of a resolutely indifferent world. It’s just wonderful. The experimentation! J.D Salinger! Todd! xp
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:37 (six years ago)
Bojack is low-key the Greatest Showbiz satire ever, which is also only a fraction of what it does well.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:37 (six years ago)
todd is one of my favorite characters of television i will give bojack that
lol perfect
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:38 (six years ago)
loooool
― emil.y, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:38 (six years ago)
with bojack, start with s1e7 if you're not convinced, that's where it gets good. s8 is where it gets really good. etc
― imago, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:38 (six years ago)
The episode where Todd is just quietly and chaotically holding everything together for everyone is one of the best.
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:40 (six years ago)
It's actually good to know that Bojack doesn't start well, as someone who does want to watch it soon.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:40 (six years ago)
todd gave me the biggest laugh i've maybe ever experienced watching tv at one point in (iirc) season 3 (or 4) but i won't spoil it. it involves one of his business ideas, which are plentiful, and all amazing
― imago, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:40 (six years ago)
i expected to hate bojack, but gave it a shot after a friend talked me into it and was instantly in love with the writing. much smarter and nuanced than i would have ever expected (tho again: low expectations)
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:40 (six years ago)
haven't seen a good fake reveal for a while so [applause]
― Mordy, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:42 (six years ago)
When it started to get really dark and self-loathing, it caught me off guard actually. Even got weepy once or twice.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 23:42 (six years ago)