opening up yr marriage is not a position i consider moral but i feel like i've been misled by dozens of ask prudence / ask dan savage articles that posit that negotiating these kinds of things is open + honest and preferable to cheating or whatever. i figured conventional modern sexuality morality was pretty much okay with honest renegotiation of marriage terms after the fact as at least an understandable thing - kinda pleased to ilx so grossed out by it.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 19:45 (five years ago) link
to see* ilx
people change in all sorts of ways and the context of a marriage or relationship can be badly affected by tons of things that your spouse might decide they want to do that they didn't when you got married.
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 19:48 (five years ago) link
It's quite possible that they attend as a couple but don't participate directly, which apparently is an option.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 19:51 (five years ago) link
good manners is to disclose these things before entering into a legal contract. It does kind of sound like he's more into voyeurism especially with his nice hogisms.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 19:54 (five years ago) link
I may have to redraft my profile of his proclivities upon re-read.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link
beyond 'we have to swing' post-marriage, i kinda wonder whether his wife wanted the whole world to know about all this
does he think this makes him look good, or cool? i've never even seen him in anything but the verizon ads, so this is a bonus to his being the most annoying man on television
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 20:10 (five years ago) link
I’m sure that similar celebrities who must be propositioned directly or indirectly every week have other ways of dealing with this than communication.
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 21:41 (five years ago) link
i consider moral but i feel like i've been misled by dozens of ask prudence / ask dan savage articles that posit that negotiating these kinds of things is open + honest and preferable to cheating or whatever.
Negotiating boundaries is different than two months post-nuptials being like "hey, babe, I need to see some hogs or else this shit is DONESKI."
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 21:42 (five years ago) link
There is a storyline on Billions where Paul Giamotti's character gives a press conference (while running for office) that he's a masochist. His spouse is understandably pissed.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 21:55 (five years ago) link
xp. his gloss of the situation in the article does not necessarily reflect how that played out.
i mean maybe that is what happened, but it seems unlikely
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 21:55 (five years ago) link
oh man, i see this has been getting write ups today.
Silicon Valley star Thomas Middleditch has given an interview in Playboy that has what we might call “severe Burning Man energy.”And not just because he discusses, among other things: Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg; “alpha” and “beta” men; shooting guns with Alex Jones; getting his private pilot’s license; and how “after spending an entire weekend playing computer games,” he likes to “take mushrooms and drink rainwater off a tree.”
And not just because he discusses, among other things: Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg; “alpha” and “beta” men; shooting guns with Alex Jones; getting his private pilot’s license; and how “after spending an entire weekend playing computer games,” he likes to “take mushrooms and drink rainwater off a tree.”
― Yerac, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 22:03 (five years ago) link
I'd be pissed if my spouse gave a press conference saying they watch Billions
― Mitch C. Palace (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link
I made it just far enough into Billions to see Paul Giamatti get peed on.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link
I have no recollection of him getting peed on! I wanted to stick with it because I like the non-binary character but it's pretty bad. and especially after Axelrod took over Jordan Belfort and Patrick Batement as default avator for basic douchebags everywhere.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 22:12 (five years ago) link
Every once in a while I fantasize that as a celebrity I would just make shit up to journalists all the time, but the problem of course is that whether or not you are serious it will scan that way and it will be out there forever, and you will be asked about it forever, too. "No, I did not once get hired to poop on Brad Pitt at a party," etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link
Giamatti's golden shower is in the first episode, I think.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 22:48 (five years ago) link
Maggie Siff looks just like one of my best friends so even if it hadn't seemed awful that scene would have been a dealbreaker.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 22:50 (five years ago) link
how “after spending an entire weekend playing computer games,” he likes to “take mushrooms and drink rainwater off a tree.”
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 22:58 (five years ago) link
verizon's gotta be loving this
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 01:19 (five years ago) link
but fwiw he comes off more likable/relatable now?
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 01:22 (five years ago) link
nerdy guys + quickly inflated egos = hell on already existent relationships
― maura, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 01:48 (five years ago) link
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 01:56 (five years ago) link
is he a nerdy guy irl tho? I honestly have no idea. he’s an actor. I mean he plays nerdy real good but iirc David Schwimmer is like 6’1” and hunky but played “Ross” on friends.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 02:51 (five years ago) link
I mean the equation is 100% good math, it just strikes me I have no idea what this guy is like irl.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 02:52 (five years ago) link
He's has a definite nerdy vibe. Schwimmer is more dweeby vibe.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 13:20 (five years ago) link
must've been fun sharing a set with this guy AND tj miller for years
― Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 13:21 (five years ago) link
i figured conventional modern sexuality morality was pretty much okay with honest renegotiation of marriage terms after the fact as at least an understandable thing - kinda pleased to ilx so grossed out by it.
we can find things morally fine but still gross or goofy
defining things that a lot of people find gross as immoral is really making me ponder the origins of some ethical stances though
― untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:55 (five years ago) link
I feel like I must have been picking up on some actor energy when I posted this about the characterimo they should make Richard fully devolve into the malnourished, shrinking, weird sexual deviant malcontent he seems to be
― untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:56 (five years ago) link
an acquaintance of mine had her marriage recently fall apart because her husband was pressuring her into a threesome with one of his younger coworkers. Now they're getting divorced. He is single. She's dating a way younger guy. The guy's whole angle/behavior seem totally idiotic.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:57 (five years ago) link
never forget when you see google execs and the like at burning man that they're only two ideological steps away from a writer who was really into the idea of "intergenerational relationships"
― untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:01 (five years ago) link
Robert Heinlein?
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link
peter lamborn wilson, writer of "temporary autonomous zones"
― untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link
I mean, there have been all these stories over the past few years of weird/ugly silicon valley sex parties.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link
that shit's been going on since the 90s!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link
The first thing I actually thought about while reading this (and kind of otm'ing maura's sentiment) was about that Jon Ronson Butterfly Effect podcast and the effects of the prevalence and overconsumption of free internet porn while not cultivating real life relationships, not being able to maintain arousal in traditional intimate roles and requiring more.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link
for background:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_Autonomous_Zone#Implementationshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Lamborn_Wilson#Pedophilia_advocacy
― untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link
The Google exec who has a soundproofed fuck palace in Manhattan is the peak of this.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link
I'm familiar with the failings of Hakim Bey yeah
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:08 (five years ago) link
All actors are nerdy. That's part of why they're actors.
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link
i admire that rogermexico thinks david schwimmer is hunky.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:13 (five years ago) link
was wondering if we were going to let that one slide
― untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:15 (five years ago) link
song about disillusionment from meeting david schwimmer in personhttps://youtu.be/xpnb3whTjLI
― Mitch C. Palace (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link
https://s.put.re/NJrnJeq9.png
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 17:10 (five years ago) link
omg
― imago, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 17:11 (five years ago) link
― Yerac, Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:13 AM
― untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, September 18, 2019
lmao i was too!
bumped into him a few times irl back in the day with witnesses - he surprises people
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link
"nice hog, Schwimmer"
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 18:19 (five years ago) link
OK.https://s.put.re/tdpcuG6p.png
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 18:43 (five years ago) link
is he a nerdy guy irl tho? I honestly have no idea. he’s an actor. I mean he plays nerdy real good but iirc David Schwimmer is like 6’1” and hunky but played “Ross” on friends.― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, September 18, 2019 2:51 AM (fifteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, September 18, 2019 2:51 AM (fifteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
he does shakespearean improv he's a fucking nerd lol
http://www.improvisedshakespeare.com/about/writeup/li/BIO-8/
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link
He is in the napolean dynamite physicality category too.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link