on board w this
― marcos, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 02:08 (five years ago) link
if you don't follow sports especially basketball you can't truly understand hip hop
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 14:15 (five years ago) link
That would explain me, at the least.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 14:19 (five years ago) link
if you don't follow sports especially cricket you can't truly understand prog rock
― hoostanbank de reason lyrics mp4 hd video download (unregistered), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link
if you dont follow sports especially wrestling you can't truly understand what the rock is cookin
― provisional ilx (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 14:35 (five years ago) link
if you don't follow sports especially bocce ball you can't truly understand how to please a man
― Yerac, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 14:43 (five years ago) link
I agree with all these
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 17:31 (five years ago) link
Films aren’t art.
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
What are the Roaring Twenties like from up close? I've always wondered.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link
much louder
― Evan, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link
my less controversial but still controversial opinion is that film isn't a narrative medium. Neither are television, or novels, or video games. Basically only drama is narrative.
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link
"people are stupid" is at worst untrue and at best a poor explanation of anything
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 4 October 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
Most people who say it resemble the remark
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 October 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link
otm, there just isn't any such thing imo
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 4 October 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link
As stupidity? How noble of you.
― pomenitul, Friday, 4 October 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link
i've certainly never seen any
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 4 October 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link
Stupidity should be seen and not heard
― i could chug a keg of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link
people are stupid all the time but any one person is very rarely always stupid and vice versa
― too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Friday, 4 October 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
you can fool some people most of the time if i may
people are stupid" is at worst untrue and at best a poor explanation of anything
stupidity, which is a kind of intractable inability to learn things, certainly exists, but ignorance and credulity explain a lot more of what often gets called stupidity.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 4 October 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link
Anyone who has worked in a service job understands the specific kind of extrapolated "stupidity" that is observed when dealing with people at their worst in large volume. If the service person understands that the nature of their job pretty much requires them to filter out the good qualities of the customer to only focus on the qualities that have often brought the them to seek the service that they are providing, I can accept the statement, "People are stupid" as a sort of lazy shorthand for, "dealing with a lot of people who ____, and are impatient or angry about it, sucks". Otherwise, I agree that it's a shitty and wrong thing to say, and that the person saying it is probably at least as stupid as the target of their vitriol.
― beard papa, Friday, 4 October 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link
controversial only to the left internet:
the U.S. Democratic Party is not right-winga market economic system is not inherently right-wing
― blows with the wind donors (crüt), Sunday, 6 October 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link
Bad Santa is overrated
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 6 October 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link
I used to think so
but it's grown in my estimation over time
― Number None, Sunday, 6 October 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link
you can shave yr own butthole you just gotta be fuckin delicate, touch like a feather
― unproven (darraghmac), Wednesday, November 14, 2018 6:09 PM bookmarkflaglink
original lyrics to "Creep" iirc
― master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 December 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
🎶I use Veet🎶
― that said, I’d prefer a single serving of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 6 December 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link
lol neanderthal
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 December 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link
what the hell are you putting thereit don't belong therei don't belong here
― sarahell, Sunday, 15 December 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link
Tintin is bad. Writing is exceptionally poor, pacing is random, characters are little more than stock phrases and caricatures (often racist caricatures, especially in the early books), stories are a hodge-podge of "exotic" locales and meandering plots that rarely follow any kind of narrative structure. The one thing that is exceptional is the line-work and the fine level of detail. Unfortunately even this can't make up for the overall flatness of the effect, compounded by his reliance on stiff layouts and an apparent compulsion against every varying the POV or scale of what's going on within the panel borders. I never read these as a kid but since they're everywhere now I've read my son probably about a dozen and was surprised to discover that I've enjoyed approximately zero of them.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link
ever varying
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 22:20 (four years ago) link
They're super Orientalist in the mystical-easty way that passed for acceptable up through the last decade. I feel the same way about Curious George.
― rb (soda), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 22:40 (four years ago) link
They never really got completely past it, but The Blue Lotus was some kind of breakthrough. It was pretty rare to have anyone point out what militarized Japan was doing, much less so a children's cartoonist. The whole series is honestly a lot weirder and uneven than people say.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 22:43 (four years ago) link
itt Οὖτις acting the goat
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 22:47 (four years ago) link
idg the Curious George ref. Where is there Orientalism in Curious George? I only know the original 7 titles, and those all take place in NY, with no depictions of any non-white ethnicities that I can recall
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 22:50 (four years ago) link
and with Tintin it goes beyond Orientalism - Native Americans, Africans, middle easterners, they all get the treatment.
tbf there's other stuff from the era (or even earlier - thinking of Windsor McCay primarily here, and Barks afterwards) where the overall style and imaginative execution on display is so overwhelming I'm willing to accept the racist context that they were operating in. But Tintin doesn't pass that bar ime.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 22:53 (four years ago) link
and of course there's this classic with the Jewshttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c7/Herge_cartoon_-_Tintin_and_the_Jews.jpg/330px-Herge_cartoon_-_Tintin_and_the_Jews.jpg
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 22:54 (four years ago) link
Οὖτις have you read your son The Shooting Star? It's got a background villain that is markedly antisemitic (certainly by now standards so er this may serve as a warning if you haven't). These are mostly reasonable (I take issue with the lack of scale criticism as certain expanded panels such as the rocket reveal and lunar landscapes in Destination Moon are so embedded in my imagination from childhood) criticisms of an evidently controversial artist and series of books tho - surprised and interested to read that Tintin is 'everywhere' - I don't have kids to read it to but can share mixed feelings about that.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 23:08 (four years ago) link
haven't read Shooting Star and lol I doubt I will now. We've read the following;Tintin in AmericaCigars of the PharaohThe Black IslandRed Rackham's TreasureFlight 714 to Sydney
when I say "everywhere" I mean available at the school library, the local library, and the local comic shop, all of which we frequent regularly.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 23:13 (four years ago) link
The opening of Shooting Star is incredible!
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 23:17 (four years ago) link
I admit if I was reading these for my own pleasure I might approach them a little differently, but the calculus of "do I want to have yet another complicated conversation with my son about racist imagery from the past century" kinda undermines that
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 23:21 (four years ago) link
You probably need to avoid Tintin In The Congo fyi
― ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 23:23 (four years ago) link
I legit don't think i'd have such an overwhelming interest in world cultures, travel and history (including the history of European perceptions of others) if i hadn't been such a huge Tintin fan as a child. Perhaps it's not so important now kids have access to the internet and a million TV channels, but thirty years ago it was a window into the wonder of human existence like few others. It has been a while since i last re-read them but iirc they still stand up well as adventure stories.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 23:29 (four years ago) link
i like tintin but the early books (the first 10 or so, maybe?) are indeed flawed for all the reasons mentioned -- tintin in the congo is so horrific in so many ways it actually made me angry when i read it. (tintin in the land of the soviets is pretty funny, though: iirc there's a scene where tintin stumbles on lenin and trotsky's stash of buried treasure, or something like that.)
herge did become quite a bit better later on, though -- the moon books, castafiore emerald, tintin in tibet all display real growth: better art, more convincing characterization, better plotting + humor. if you're not into them, tho, no reason to keep going imo.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link
Flight 714 is weird!Don’t you need to read The Secret Of The Unicorn for Red Rackem’s Treasure to make sense?The other ones you read are early ones, not so great, imo, later ones get much better.Agree about the racism, obv
― brimstead, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link
The Dalai Llama has praises Tintin In Tibet, fwiw
― brimstead, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 23:33 (four years ago) link
praised
There's a very good passage in The Blue Lotus where Tintin and a young boy discusses Europeans racist views on Chinese. He got that out of his system, I think. There's still a lot of other stereotypes throughout the series, though
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 23:34 (four years ago) link
I don’t believe Tintin In the Congo is available in the US? It wasn’t when I was growing up in the 90s anyway
― brimstead, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 23:34 (four years ago) link
shooting star is (or used to be) my favorite of the early books but it was serialized during the nazi occupation of belgium, which makes the problematic stuff even more disturbing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shooting_Star#Antisemitism
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 23:34 (four years ago) link
Sorry, stepped away to heat up some pork. I didn't mean to suggest that Curious George is orientalist -- but it relies on period-equivalent icky colonialist attitudes. While it wasn't written to be racist, clearly, it definitely uses shifty power dynamics from the end of imperialism to illustrate power dynamics that reinforce white hegemony.
― rb (soda), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 23:35 (four years ago) link