The ILX Animated Series Poll Results Thread is part of this complete breakfast

oh right it was nick whoops

trying to think now of what cartoon network's flagship show was in 2001-2

powerpuff girls, maybe?

I sorted this by date, and the only one I've heard of that debuted in 2001 was Samurai Jack: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programs_broadcast_by_Cartoon_Network#Animated_series

im 35 and watched spongebob when it came out because i was a stoner doofus and like 15

The Last Airbender film by Shyamalan is by all accounts an abomination, especially as it cast a bunch of white actors as the heroes while leaving the villains as Asians.

But the source cartoon is all the way on the other end of the spectrum.

― Johnny Grottan from the Skeks Pistols (Leee)

Ahhhh, I see. I forgot it was Shyamalan, so unlikely to be good from the start. I know this is a slightly different case, but it irks me a lot when US/UK productions take an Asian product and just make the main characters white, leaving the setting and minor/bad characters Asian. It seems like it would actually be less whitewashing to move the whole thing to the US, rather than simultaneously rejecting and fetishising the origin of the story. Does this make sense? It's like "yeah, you're great window dressing but of course we can't allow you to be fully rounded autonomous characters".

Like if The Departed was set in HK but still starred Leo, yeah, I can see that.

So, while we're on the subject of problematics...

https://i.imgur.com/JwSGuYn.jpg

14. Ren & Stimpy Show, The
141 points, 8 votes, 0 firsts

Avatar truly is brilliant; it was pretty interesting and absorbing from the beginning, but by the midway point of Season 2 I was genuinely gobsmacked. I honestly couldn't believe a Nickelodeon kid's show could be so damn good.

Ren and Stimpy was never my cup of tea, sadly; I genuinely can't see what's great about it. I'm from the cartoon-geek generation that mostly knows John K as that guy who's always complaining about other people's cartoons on his blog.

R&S = amazing show, terrible man.

I was specifically thinking of films like The Grudge above - I get that with Japanese ghost stories there are often quite specific types of ghost, but I found it really gross that they just decided to go ahead and stick some white protagonists in Japan getting menaced by Japanese ghosts.

along with being a terrible human being, john k was probably the most ridiculous cult leader ever -- just post after post trying to convince his followers of the genius of the guy who did the background designs on "yogi bear."

I thought Avatar would place in the top ten, it was my #1. It has basically everything I want in an animated TV show: beautiful, imaginative world, memorable characters, fantastic story that is incredibly well-paced across the 3 seasons, and it's genuinely funny for a kid's show. It culminates in one of the best endings to any show ever. I saw it in my late twenties, well after my peak nostalgia years, much older than the intended viewer age, but it's such a gem. I rewatched it last year and it's still one of my favorite shows of all time

I've never seen any R&S beyond the clip that was on The Simpsons, so let me wax more about ATLA.

* Its sense of realpolitik is well thought out -- not just for a kids' show, but any TV series.
* It humanizes all of its main characters, including (most) its antagonists, and gives them real psychologies.
* It's hilarious.
* It actively critiques toxic masculinity.
* Uncle Iroh is the best character ever.
* CABBAGES.

xp Vinnie OTM

https://i.imgur.com/c54TTmC.jpg

13. Batman: The Animated Series
144 points, 10 votes, 0 firsts

- Mark Hamill's portrayal of the Joker = best.
- Created Harley.
- Gave all non-Joker rogues pathos.
- Dr. Freeze was designed by Mike Mignola!
- Ground zero for DCAU. (Also led directly to the best Batman film.)

Am I missing anything?

I very nearly gave R&S my 1st, but held off because Fuck U JOhn K :(

I voted for BTAS and love it, but it has the big downside of having some of the worst animation yet on this list.

What's your best Batman film Leee?

Mask of the Phantasm!

Kevin Conroy! Efraim Zimbalist Jr.! Dana Delany!

The animation does get dodgy (it's better when it becomes The Adventures of Batman & Robin), but I think that's a consequence of being an early '90s cartoon.

https://i.imgur.com/BMbhPqI.jpg

12. King of the Hill
149 points, 12 votes, 0 firsts

Yup

Clayface eps are the peak imo

Yep.

One of the Clayface episodes gave me nightmares as a kid

still my favorite animated sitcom by a mile

i honestly expected this one to go in the top 10.

I tried out the "So is he Chinese or Japanese?" line once on ILX and nobody got the reference, which is kind of indicative.

y'all i started watching avatar and it is so fuckin sick

https://i.imgur.com/RmXwnMR.jpg

11. Space Ghost Coast to Coast
151 points, 10 votes, 0 firsts

king of the hill one of the best shows ever

oh hell yeah space ghost

that is old kentucky shark, and he has been there

Dont think I even voted for Space Ghost! I like it fine, but found it a bit ... I dunno, it'd sag sometimes? Depended who the guest was I spose. Preferred Brak Show.

season 7 is when it goes full tilt, williams street weirdness perfection

cf. "kentucky nightmare," which i am watching now and every part of which is hilarious

old kentucky shark episode was one of the best for sure

a shark on whiskey is mighty risky
a shark on beer is a beer engineer

Is Space Ghost an Adult Swim show? We never really got those over here

cartoon network originally but it migrated to adult swim for its last seasons

i thought king of the hill was too 90s-generic-sitcom, kind of like grace under fire as a cartoon. i hear that fox meddled with mike judge's conception of the show, cutting out more political stuff.

Monsignor Martinez is the greatest show within a show in TV history

VAYA

CON DIOS

I could never really get into KOTH. It was very very... American.

Unlike the Simpsons.

Haha North American I guess

Oh shit nm for some dumb ass reason I thought you were talking about kids in the hall, forgot what thread I was in

y'all i started watching avatar and it is so fuckin sick

One of the only criticisms of the show I can make is that early S1 episodes after the pilot are not as tightly written or integrated into the overall plot, so if you like it that early, you're in for a ride, cause it gets much better

Sorry Trayce, I didn’t mean to be truculent!

Ha its all good! Maybe its because its more a southern/hick thing? I dunno, that seems dumb cos we have people like that here too. I just didnt get into it anyway.

The Simpsons deliberately obscured the state Springfield resided in, whereas KotH was much more specific. Trayce otm.