PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

oh mate

She’s a liability truly pic.twitter.com/OwzSpHM6fg

— No One (@judeinlondon2) September 16, 2019

Fucking hell, the sheer effort and time and weight crushing David Cameron's brain and soul in the mad, terrified effort to avoid saying "I absolutely fucking stacked it." YOU WOULD FEEL BETTER AND ACTUALLY DO SOME GOOD IF YOU ADMITTED YOU WERE WRONG.

— Caitlin Moran (@caitlinmoran) September 16, 2019

David Cameron says his mistake with austerity was not doing it harder and fasterhttps://t.co/n11bJdim1J pic.twitter.com/hg9uqS2mLg

— Mirror Politics (@MirrorPolitics) September 16, 2019

grave spit imo

(Luxembourg was the scene of the most dramatic part of my marriage breakup lol. Luxembourg! I had to buy my own plane ticket!)

No no, ~window of permission~ is the name of my dog

xp Fuck LJ, had no idea. That sounds like a 'Before Sunset' sequel

Our daily/nightly radio show on actualities has this song as an intro on all things EU/Brexit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEIMHntHwgg

I've been hearing it nearly every night for a year and a half now, thanks to the UK voters. And it is perfect.

That's rough, LJ. Surrounded by papier mâché buildings, to boot.

that guy isn't english

(annotation specifically provided as caveat/context; I pin the colonial empire on the English more than Britain per se)

I thought Ben Elton had lived in Australia for years? That's even further away than Denmark.

Even more so, he lives in Perth, the second most distant city on the planet after Honolulu (which is 1/6 Perth's size*), and closer to eg East Timor, Bali and Jakarta than even to other Australian population centres.

*(NB: the OG Perth is 1/46 the size of the .au Perth. I know it's confusing but it's the English's fault)

― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 7:19 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

The intersection between the general Western Australia way of doing politics and the massive pinkie migration (WA Timezone means the football isn’t on too late) probably makes Perth WA the most Brexity city on earth.

Less Before Sunset, more Before Some Kids Throw A Bottle Near You And Because You Berate Them In Bad French Instead Of Try To Beat Them Up You Are Unmanly And I'm Driving To Calais And Taking The Dog And You're Not Coming

good times great memories etc

this is new information for my xls

During my trip to Luxembourg I mostly just balked at the sheer unaffordability of it all.

Apologies LJ, I was 'joking' but didn't mean to stir up shit. I'm glad you're in a much better place <3

am I the only one who doesn’t maintain a detailed xls

My parents had an argument like this just before they broke up, except my mother just sulked and rolled her eyes and it was in folkestone not Luxembourg, and they don't speak french there, so I reckon you probably aren't my dad

I noticed that cigs were cheap there, another mark against it

And that song is making me nostalgic, LBI (emphasis on the algia). I was in Brussels earlier this year and absolutely saw myself living there, if it were a realistic option.

pfft if your folks didnt tell you about the breakup at christmas dinner dont even come to the uk politics thread imo

had a right barnstormer in luxembourg with the then ms mac over her ogling belgian soldiers iirc, must be something in the air

my ex once ditched me to go to Luxembourg without me when i was broke, beginning of the end

definitely for the best tho

times i think i shouldve left yerwan there too tbh

sorry to hear about everyone's Luxembourg-related romantic woes

I was going to go there once but in the end I liked Trier enough to stay there an extra night instead, sounds like I dodged... something

And that song is making me nostalgic, LBI (emphasis on the algia). I was in Brussels earlier this year and absolutely saw myself living there, if it were a realistic option.

― pomenitul, Monday, September 16, 2019 11:44 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yes! Bruxelles is dark and murky and shady but so, so great. We've too little time to live where we want to live. We've too little time full stop.

only time I went there was to visit a friend who was a notorious shagger and his latest girlfriend. Latest update is that they have been happily married with kids for five years now.

Brussels is a bit scary, didn't stay long enough to work out if in a good way or a bad way.

from that Guardian editorial

Politicians ought to think about their policy’s consequences. If the Lib Dems’ idea is accepted, then why couldn’t the SNP be permitted to hold a second independence vote if it won the next Holyrood election?

isn't a very apt analogy. "why couldn’t the SNP be permitted... to pass a Unilateral Declaration of Independance" is closer.

xp first bit re: Luxembourg

apropos of some of the stuff on here today, and I'm not officially a communist because when I tried to join them they took a quid admin charge off me on paypal and never emailed me back and I though fuck 'em because I can't be arsed with meetings or people.

there is some good material in keith lowe's savage continent book about how much the people of greece (specifically the communists who had resisted the nazi occupation) suffered after ww2 under a US/GB backed genocidal fascist regime, bet their citizens driven to destitution and suicide by EU imposed austerity were very grateful this end was a marked improvement on getting marched into remote caves and murdered by fascists.

Didn’t Churchill send in British troops against those same communists?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/30/athens-1944-britains-dirty-secret

The German tanks had been replaced by British ones, the SS and Gestapo officers by British soldiers

same as it ever was!

wow, didn't know about any of that, depressing

v interesting article though, thanks calzino

also, to lower the tone, ilx, I hardly recognise you and your not even mentioning Brian Molko as a famous person from Luxembourg

Brian Molko of Placebo? Born in Brussels, raised all over the place iirc.

every me and every EU

Hmm, born in Brussels and went to school in Luxembourg from 11-18 but French Wikipedia says he actually lived just over the border in Belgium at the time, so I guess Belgium wins this round

I've spent too long researching this now, someone post about something more interesting

the guardian claimed that david cameron couldnt really have grieved the death of his son like a guardian reader would have

that was probably noteworthy

Didn’t Churchill send in British troops against those same communists

Xenakis lost half his face thanks to a British tank.

character building stuff!

Lol fucking state of this

For those wanting to singalong at home...enjoyed the line about it all giving the press office more work to do! pic.twitter.com/yV1YTTHWHz

— Patrick Daly (@bypatrickdaly) September 16, 2019

I came in too late alas but gotta be in character and say that comrade alphabet and pom's discussion on the EU's powers and intervention once again boiling down to Greece, when it was actually about political pressures being put on Spain, Italy and Portugal as well, is deeply frustrating (at least gyac got Ireland in).

Fair point.

Also this

every me and every EU

should've been

EU don't care about us

extremely good how we have basically had no government for two years. what direction is the country even heading

straight to hell baby

Daniel - Greece had its elected government fucked over by the EU and it was the biggest example. Yes I know it was all linked with much of southern Europe.

It's not as if Pom or Fred cared (lol did you know that a bank bailout was the difference here, and that's why Orban is cool -- make sure your debts are paid but refugees might as well be pennies) and Darragh was like it's all good in Ireland now why go over the past.

ah fuck’s sake it’s not even 9 yet can we n o t

I, for one, am in no mood for a rehash.

comrade gyac-a-mole otm

i reject your projection of bovine victimhood upon nations throughout several cycles of entirely democratically elected national governments tbh

Also not sure this

just wanna say that ireland isnt perfect but its still good yknow, even if only showing LBI fatima mansions and the nortsoide probably wont have him agreeing