2020 Democratic presidential primary

Trump just needs a dumb one-liner, like what he said to Jeb! about his mom.

Clinton did very well in the debates vs Trump.

Who cares now

I feel like it's utterly predictable that I'd like Eizabeth Warren so I've been resisting it but whenever I see her I realize I actually do really like Elizabeth Warren

My wife, who has never seen Beto, on Beto: "Why not this guy? This guy seems good."

I think Beto got the biggest boost from the debate. Castro had a lot of good moments but felt too much like he was auditioning for VP. Buttigieg and Booker also had some decent answers, but I doubt it will help them. Klobuchar and Yang were both terrible and should drop out immediately.

I don't think much changed for the top 4. I was ready to call Harris' natcotized performance the worst of the top runners, but she started to come to life after a while.

Klobuchar; “I’m your VP Joe!”
Everyone else: “Thank you Beto for saying the swear words that we’re all think!ing”

eephus!: just give in. Many of us want the spry involved grandmother we never had.

fuck! pic.twitter.com/VDUEROLPE9

— guy fieri 2020 campaign manager (@libbycwatson) September 13, 2019

Biden is a mess, but can generally be at least semi-coherent

semi-coherent lies and crap

Sure, but didn't see anything happen all night that's gonna knock him off his perch

neither did most of the voters because they weren't watching

I just came from seeing Lily Tommlin and Jane Wagner (I bet they're going Warren)

Presumably some people watch these things that haven't yet made up their minds, but maybe not. Polls definitively seemed to shift here and there after the previous debates.

the fact that he can count on coverage like this is a ib help I'm sure

Analysis: Biden delivers the debate performance he needed, despite occasional missteps https://t.co/O1MZqmeyN7

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) September 13, 2019

*big help

I always enjoy political analysis by pundits who tell me what I saw and heard and how to think about it. It saves me so much trouble not having to think about things for myself.

Morbs, how was the tomlin and wagner talk? Woulda like to have gone.

Well, they rambled charmingly like smart octogenarians. Lily has the same laugh.

Warren keeping "middle-class families" going. God I hate pandering.

I saw another querulous Biden performance, but the coverage this morning is the equivalent of a fire blanket.

He’s not quite doddering yet but a debate between him and Trump would no doubt be a travesty of grammatical logic. Best case scenario is he picks a younger (well that’s a given) more progressive vp and retires after 1 term.

Yeah, the thought of Biden trying to debate anyone in four years is...

Never mind coherent answers to questions; if Biden can just keep his teeth in his mouth for the whole debate, that'll be a step up.

THIS NIGGA DENTURES FELL OUT LMFAOOOOO #DemDebate pic.twitter.com/M8qSP2qQym

— t (xula 23) (@tamitwrit) September 13, 2019

should wear fangs next time

Age will be the weapon that Joe Biden’s opponents will use, because it’s basically all they have, writes @nytegan https://t.co/Kyc2DYgzGs

— New York Times Opinion (@nytopinion) September 13, 2019

lol "ageism"...the reason ppl are making noise abt his age is because unlike Bernie (78!) or Liz (70) he is confused and doddering and his teeth come out mid-sentence

lol enduring appeal wtf

biden can never really screw up if he can count on legacy media defending him every time he's exposed

it's fucking pathetic

The whole opening segment on The View today was an extended How Dare You? @Castro re:ageism against Biden.

and wasn't Castro...right? Am I interpreting Biden's breathless answer incorrectly?

MSM always in the tank for the most Republican Democrat

he said "you automatically can buy into this".

which is confusing.

but the plan he was describing was called 'medicare for choice,' which...ugh, and he kept saying buy-in, so i think what he meant is 'if you have a pre-existing condition and you lose your job, you can buy into medicare'

buy in
opt out

fuckin jargon

Biden will have done "what he needed to do" according to the Post & Times so long as he can show up in a suit and stay awake for the duration

looking forward to trump and biden taking out their dentures and debating like men

it's the old Reagan "he didnt drool" standard for Biden

i have not spoken to one person irl that wants to vote for Biden

Echoes of Pauline Kael's Nixon comment.

wants to is the key difference there

it often seems even when people are arguing positively for biden that his big selling point is the perverted moral rush of doing something you didn't want to

right, and I don't think enough people are going to be willing to make that "sacrifice" in order for him to defeat Trump.

Did you meet anyone who wanted Kerry to be the nominee in '04?

i can't even remember who the other candidates were now

dean, edwards, Wes Clark, bayh??

god that’s grim

was bayh even actually a candidate? gephardt, carol moseley brown...al sharpton?

wow no wonder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

damn talk about clown cars

I voted kucinich! It was my first election