The September 2019 US Politics Thread is great Great GREAT GR8

xp ha was gonna say. do you even ilx bro ?

I'm probably one of the few people on this board who marched against the war in Afghanistan back in 2001, but 'massive war crime'?

― Frederik B, Wednesday, September 11, 2019 7:33 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

haha wow fuck off buddy

CBS News reports:

Aggravation over Iran and the Taliban had intensified recently as Mr. Trump wanted a meeting to take place at Camp David and is open to a meeting with Iran’s president.

But three sources directly involved tell CBS News White House correspondent Major Garrett that the main irritant that drove Mr. Trump to distraction was his belief that Bolton or those close to Bolton leaked a story about Mr. Trump asking about whether nuclear weapons could be used to abate hurricanes.

Let’s say you are a taliban and you receive ‘an invitation’ ‘from the president’ ‘to discuss peace’ ‘at Camp David’, how suspicious would you be?

🐦[Imagine still peddling this shit 18 years into a massive war crime that has killed countless women in Afghanistan https://t.co/1hLE2OVjmI🕸
— Nora BarrowsFriedman (@norabf) September 11, 2019🕸]🐦

from whom?

Ask the women of Afghanistan if they’re cool with going back to taliban rule

quite a binary you have there

... Condoleeza

ask them if they’re cool going back to being alive, first things first

I say this as some whose wife goes to Kabul several times a year to work on empowering women there. I really don’t think they’re super cool with going back to what it was

absolutely loving the idea that Trump fired Bolton for leaking about something dumb Trump asked over a year before Bolton was in the White House

It’s possible to both hate taliban rule and foreign intervention.

or to love both

yes, it is.

Especially considering how foreign intervention did little to change taliban rule.

well i'm definitely not trying to justify the intervention

but how you leave the place is extremely important

Better hang around another 18 years then

better say disingenuous shit on a messageboard

Agreed that how you leave the place is important.

Sorry I misunderstood you earlier.

"we" (the militarist dumbshits) will never get it right

NC republicans promised NC house democrats that they wouldn’t pass any legislation while the democrats were away at an 11/9 memorial service. Then broke the governor’s veto on budget legislation as soon as everyone was gone.

Can’t wait until Biden gets nominated so he can restore more of this type of bipartisanship!

Republicans deserve to not have all their teeth

but how you leave the place is extremely important

Some ways would be marginally better than others, but I'm not sure there is any possible way to leave that would produce the kind of results you would approve. The women of Afghanistan, even if they were a monolithic bloc, have so little power that they cannot control events, or even influence events in a meaningful way.

The combined weight of USA/NATO/western NGOs have not changed that equation nearly enough in the past 18 years to alter the fundamental vulnerability of Afghan women and there's no reason to believe they can dictate such a change as part of their peace terms. That's the reality of it.

on this holiest of days

Post 9/11 thread for people to post the wildest shit they remember from 01 to 06

I'll start:

People thought Osama had an entire mountain hollowed out that he was using as his base and that's why AQ was hard to find and that somehow a group of like 30 dudes arranged this. pic.twitter.com/IPGVQ1xfhs

— mugrimm (@unabanned) September 11, 2019

honestly I'd forgotten about a lot of this stuff but I agree with the guy's point that Obama's failure to investigate/prosecute any of this stuff has pretty much led us to where we are today

literal bond villain shit, just an incredible time to live through

tbrr for those of us living/working in downtown manhattan, everything felt completely unreal and bizarre anyway! osama living in a gi joe playset was somewhat in line with having to show id at subway checkpoints and dodge police chokepoints just to get to the office.

That thread reminded me of the time Kerik hustled a fuck pad out of the city so that he and and his right wing girlfriend could pork away.

it really is wild how everyone for awhile thought OBL was basically Cobra Commander crossed with Saruman when he was really just a troll in a condo watching porn, like so many other shitty 21st century people.

Ayman Al Zwahiri = Destro?

who was the Baroness

Condi

couldn't even get all the liberals to dissent?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-allows-full-enforcement-222638710.html

basically this is Congress' fault.

Here's video of Trump telling reporters today that "innocent children" are "coming home and they're saying, 'mom, I want to vape!'" pic.twitter.com/XwSrYboavZ

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 11, 2019

And my new username is born

Too bad guns don't come in kid flavors.

but they do...

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/apr/29/armed-to-the-milk-teeth-america-gun-toting-kids

'mom, I want to vape!'

Unreleased "The End" outtake.

I like how he presents this hypothetical as if kids going to their parents to ask permission before doing something is somehow a terrible thing that must be stopped

"Mommy, can I go out and......VAPE TONIGHT!?!"

i love how trump constantly feels compelled to set the scene that's playing out in his head for everybody

"his head"

Mother, May I Vape With Danger

idk whatever you call the My Three Sons episode that he envisions n front of him

This is so transparently about wanting to be seen as decisive and pro-active about anything whatsoever, so long as it's not guns or something of real consequence. I hate vapes, but I think this ban is disgusting. I also expect that bans on THC products are right around the corner.

Trump describes a dream he had/episode of Quincy he half-watched as if it were reality (perhaps prefaced with 'many people are saying'), world calls Trump out on preposterous claim, Trump humorlessly grouses that he was obviously just joking and any other take is just FAKE NEWS, lather, rinse, repeat, torch earth and salt remains.

I also expect that bans on THC products are right around the corner.

of course becasue it's not like the whole fucking issue is due to black market THC carts so banning them will definitly help.

I would encourage everyone to forward Trump news stories about the Electric Sun 20 so that we can hasten the complete dissolution of reality.

It's more about Juul stuff right? My daughter and her friends complain about its pervasiveness in their high school.

because they have fruit flavors ? they still make Boones Farm Strawberry Hill don't they ? I don't know any adults that drink that shit .