2020 Democratic presidential primary

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she also literally retweeted him and said "I support this message"

gbx, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 12:43 (six years ago)

lmao

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:41 (six years ago)

I thought this was interesting - the central point about black women delivering the margin of victory for Dems seems indisputable.

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/10/what-do-black-women-voters-want/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/8IkFvV5cxNv46Y3xHVzWOpThS4I=/1440x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/74FF5BABJVHDHP4TKL23ERC3HY.jpg

Most surveys, including the most recent Post-ABC News poll, show that the campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination is a three-person race between Biden, Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.). But the Essence-Black Women’s Roundtable survey shows it to be a four-person contest with Harris firmly in the mix. She comes in behind Biden overall at 15 percent and behind Sanders with 17.1 percent among younger black women voters.

Notice how Harris, the only black woman in the contest, gets more support the 18-to-34-year-olds than she does with the entire group of black women. With “criminal justice and policing reform” the top issue for these young women, the criminal justice plan Harris released Monday will be of great interest. Despite the polls, I’ve long believed Harris was stronger than it appears on the surface. This survey gives credence to my position.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:46 (six years ago)

https://beta.washingtonpost.com

sorry, due to my workout regime, glistening abs, and how much i love bleeding steak, i only read alpha opinions

I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:51 (six years ago)

Leftists shitting on the NYT for being the voice of centrism in America but jumping up and down with glee the moment Cramer, of all people, support their narrative is my new definition of the echo bubble.

― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, September 10, 2019 9:31 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

there are lots of leftists saying "warren will be bad for wall street"?

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:56 (six years ago)

I'm still confused about Biden's support in the black community.

akm, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:57 (six years ago)

I think it's fairly explicable - older black voters know how deeply racist this country is and are more inclined to think that as a result a white man (or in Hillary's case, a white woman) will have an easier time maneuvering the levers of power in their favor than a black candidate. Black voters on the whole didn't coalesce behind Obama until he won Iowa, there was a huge swing after that. Same dynamic.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:03 (six years ago)

I'm still confused about Biden's support in the black community.

― akm, Wednesday, September 11, 2019

I said last month that you can't underestimate the symbolism and reality of an older white dude gladly being a #2 to the first black president.

Shakey also otm.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:06 (six years ago)

I don't support Biden but I did have a moment where I was thinking "goddammit am I now an older black voter"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:08 (six years ago)

everybody over 35 is old fyi

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:12 (six years ago)

That being said, I think Biden's support base is pretty obvious both due to Shakey's and Alfred's arguments, plus you have to acknowledge that the black community is not "radical" despite what the media would have you believe; it's just as establishment-oriented as any other American community and the defaults are going to swing towards the centrists most closely aligned to their interests.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:14 (six years ago)

xp was just about to ask about that demarcation.

shit, i became old a few months ago, then. wait, why am i wearing a red maga hat...hold the phone...

noooooooooooooooo

I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:15 (six years ago)

my main takeaway from the black women voter poll numbers shakey just posted is that - after more or less a full year of pre-campaigning - the clear winner for all age demographics is still "Other/Prefer Not to Answer"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:44 (six years ago)

Local Right-wing gasbag actor I know's gig today was being Beto's camera test stand-in at the debate, and it amuses me to no end.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:51 (six years ago)

Andrew Yang’s campaign manager just called to tell me that at tomorrow night’s debate, Yang will be doing "something no presidential candidate has ever done before in history.” He declined to go further than that.

— Sam Stein (@samstein) September 11, 2019

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:52 (six years ago)

Self-immolation would certainly be novel.

Simon H., Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:53 (six years ago)

He should give a thousand bucks to every person in the audience.

o. nate, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:00 (six years ago)

he's going to debate shirtless

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:00 (six years ago)

get your yang-yangs out!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:01 (six years ago)

he's announcing Grimes will be his running mate

omar little, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:06 (six years ago)

actually he's taking off his Andrew Yang mask and revealing that he *is* Grimes

Simon H., Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:07 (six years ago)

Gonna debate from skype.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:13 (six years ago)

announcing his veep would be my guess... as lifted from veep!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:21 (six years ago)

proud to announce the disruptive vp choice, ted cruz

I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:24 (six years ago)

maybe gillibrand? woulda bet gravel but apparently he's a berner now

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:25 (six years ago)

lol Gillibrand doesn't need him

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:34 (six years ago)

can't find it now but meme describing Yang as "three redditors in a trenchcoat" OTM

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:38 (six years ago)

gillibrand agreeing to be yang's VP in september 2019 would have to be a low point for her

I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:45 (six years ago)

Gravel and Yang have almost nothing in common.

Simon H., Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:47 (six years ago)

well they're both idiot cranks

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:50 (six years ago)

my demographic!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:52 (six years ago)

https://www.jta.org/quick-reads/political-activist-linda-sarsour-emerges-as-surrogate-for-bernie-sanders-2020-presidential-campaign

This is about the stupidest thing I've seen Sanders do. It's like he's trying to lose the nomination. You don't win a national campaign by choosing someone this divisive as a surrogate. What a fucking dumbass.

akm, Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:12 (six years ago)

like, which demographic is he trying to win over with this? the quietly antisemitic challopsy college crowd? nation of islam members? are they a significant voting block?

akm, Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:13 (six years ago)

guess he's gonna lose all those zionist votes

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:20 (six years ago)

he's going to lose jewish support, not just orthodox jewish support. I just don't get what he gains by this at all.

akm, Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:25 (six years ago)

sarsour has been supporting bernie since 2016 i thought??

wario in the streets, waluigi in the sheets (m bison), Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:34 (six years ago)

that's fine that she can support him, but he hasn't used her as a campaign surrogate. now his campaign will. my question being: to whom is this actually attractive? what demographic does he hope to sway his way by doing this? it makes me question his campaign's decision making skills.

akm, Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:36 (six years ago)

I don’t think anybody except hardcore BDSers and real live actual Palestinian-Americans would care about that.

It’s certainly not a bigger deal than running for the Dem nomination with Sirota as your lead speechwriter.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:46 (six years ago)

classic ILX overreaction

never heard of "surrogate" as an official position before. was Rahm one for Obama?

this is inside baseball

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:51 (six years ago)

With Morbz on this one.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 12 September 2019 02:52 (six years ago)

i thought that too, but then i read:

The video, in which Sarsour is identified as a “Civil Rights Activist, 2020 Bernie Surrogate,” was tweeted by the campaign.

Non stop chantar (crüt), Thursday, 12 September 2019 03:16 (six years ago)

maybe this is just the way this word is used now

Non stop chantar (crüt), Thursday, 12 September 2019 03:17 (six years ago)

It’s certainly not a bigger deal than running for the Dem nomination with Sirota as your lead speechwriter.

which, does anyone still care about this?

Simon H., Thursday, 12 September 2019 05:33 (six years ago)

clearly!

k3vin k., Thursday, 12 September 2019 09:41 (six years ago)

This long-ass article about Warren's fights with the Obama administration is interesting and worth reading.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 12 September 2019 11:01 (six years ago)

I see tweets about Sirota now and then, mostly because Sirota is an idiot who can't stop saying and doing idiotic things

Frederik B, Thursday, 12 September 2019 11:07 (six years ago)

I have no idea who Sirota is

neither does America

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 September 2019 11:16 (six years ago)

Literally the only thing I remember about him was the controversy over him writing pro Bernie material when he had already gotten the speechwriter gig, which turned out to be bullshit.

Simon H., Thursday, 12 September 2019 12:19 (six years ago)

How did that turn out to be bullshit?

Frederik B, Thursday, 12 September 2019 12:40 (six years ago)

Here's a statement from the Guardian calling upon The Atlantic to correct the story by @IsaacDovere regarding the work hats of David Sirota: pic.twitter.com/RSwL8766hD

— ErikWemple (@ErikWemple) March 19, 2019

and as Morbs said I suspect about 0.001% of Americans even know who he is anyway

Simon H., Thursday, 12 September 2019 12:42 (six years ago)


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