The September 2019 US Politics Thread is great Great GREAT GR8

I didn't think he would either, but the NC GOP's gotta be sweating.

Margin of victory: 2% - roughly 4200 votes.

Seems like this is every election in my recent memory. Could just a few more Dems get off their asses to the voting booth ffs?

That...kinda happened in the midterms?

Midterms were good, they were not the massive repudiation I would have wished.

Given the failure of the entire media and governmental infrastructures of the US to repudiate an openly treasonous looting of the country, the voting public did a reasonable job of gesturing towards it.

this is kind of a fun reminder that we're all going to have to go through Election Day 2020

sic realistically otm :(

Midterms were good, they were not the massive repudiation I would have wished.

― confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, September 10, 2019

Midterms were better than expected by every metric.

you sound like... a baseball fan

Baseball fans are gay.

some! eg Nate Silver

this is kind of a fun reminder that we're all going to have to go through Election Day 2020

Newp. After voting Imma go into an extended news blackout / drinking jag / induced coma / remote cabin. Following partial returns is just not a thing I can do anymore. 42 years in DC, loads of political engagement and volunteering and just... no.

I am not going to sit in front of a television or computer while people talk about how with two percent of precincts reporting, Shmurp is up by fifty points, BUT WAIT, we just got results from Glurp County, which includes suburban Gleepburg. Those voters tend to be more blurpservative. So Shmurp is going to have to do really well with the college students and lacrosse moms in Norzberg County.

Gleepburg is more purple these days.

Yep. Putting myself through a repeat of election night 2016 might literally kill me. And I mean literally. Vote and then all contact with the outside world ceases until mo(u)rning.

cspan can fuck right off with this shit

"'Some people did something' said a freshman congresswoman from Minnesota…Today I am here to respond to you exactly who did what to whom."

Full video here: https://t.co/K2m92hUsMP#September11 pic.twitter.com/3DjjsPYzCw

— CSPAN (@cspan) September 11, 2019

Imagine still peddling this shit 18 years into a massive war crime that has killed countless women in Afghanistan https://t.co/1hLE2OVjmI

— Nora BarrowsFriedman (@norabf) September 11, 2019

xp "some people did something" is kind of a dubya-esque gaffe; omar was just setting the scene

I'm probably one of the few people on this board who marched against the war in Afghanistan back in 2001, but 'massive war crime'?

oh Christ

your ego and stupidity are so well married

I’m probably one of the few people on this board who marched against the war in Afghanistan back in 2001

lol

#neverforget

xp ha was gonna say. do you even ilx bro ?

I'm probably one of the few people on this board who marched against the war in Afghanistan back in 2001, but 'massive war crime'?

― Frederik B, Wednesday, September 11, 2019 7:33 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

haha wow fuck off buddy

CBS News reports:

Aggravation over Iran and the Taliban had intensified recently as Mr. Trump wanted a meeting to take place at Camp David and is open to a meeting with Iran’s president.

But three sources directly involved tell CBS News White House correspondent Major Garrett that the main irritant that drove Mr. Trump to distraction was his belief that Bolton or those close to Bolton leaked a story about Mr. Trump asking about whether nuclear weapons could be used to abate hurricanes.

Let’s say you are a taliban and you receive ‘an invitation’ ‘from the president’ ‘to discuss peace’ ‘at Camp David’, how suspicious would you be?

🐦[Imagine still peddling this shit 18 years into a massive war crime that has killed countless women in Afghanistan https://t.co/1hLE2OVjmI🕸
— Nora BarrowsFriedman (@norabf) September 11, 2019🕸]🐦

from whom?

Ask the women of Afghanistan if they’re cool with going back to taliban rule

quite a binary you have there

... Condoleeza

ask them if they’re cool going back to being alive, first things first

I say this as some whose wife goes to Kabul several times a year to work on empowering women there. I really don’t think they’re super cool with going back to what it was

absolutely loving the idea that Trump fired Bolton for leaking about something dumb Trump asked over a year before Bolton was in the White House

It’s possible to both hate taliban rule and foreign intervention.

or to love both

yes, it is.

Especially considering how foreign intervention did little to change taliban rule.

well i'm definitely not trying to justify the intervention

but how you leave the place is extremely important

Better hang around another 18 years then

better say disingenuous shit on a messageboard

Agreed that how you leave the place is important.

Sorry I misunderstood you earlier.

"we" (the militarist dumbshits) will never get it right

NC republicans promised NC house democrats that they wouldn’t pass any legislation while the democrats were away at an 11/9 memorial service. Then broke the governor’s veto on budget legislation as soon as everyone was gone.

Can’t wait until Biden gets nominated so he can restore more of this type of bipartisanship!

Republicans deserve to not have all their teeth

but how you leave the place is extremely important

Some ways would be marginally better than others, but I'm not sure there is any possible way to leave that would produce the kind of results you would approve. The women of Afghanistan, even if they were a monolithic bloc, have so little power that they cannot control events, or even influence events in a meaningful way.

The combined weight of USA/NATO/western NGOs have not changed that equation nearly enough in the past 18 years to alter the fundamental vulnerability of Afghan women and there's no reason to believe they can dictate such a change as part of their peace terms. That's the reality of it.

on this holiest of days

Post 9/11 thread for people to post the wildest shit they remember from 01 to 06

I'll start:

People thought Osama had an entire mountain hollowed out that he was using as his base and that's why AQ was hard to find and that somehow a group of like 30 dudes arranged this. pic.twitter.com/IPGVQ1xfhs

— mugrimm (@unabanned) September 11, 2019

honestly I'd forgotten about a lot of this stuff but I agree with the guy's point that Obama's failure to investigate/prosecute any of this stuff has pretty much led us to where we are today

literal bond villain shit, just an incredible time to live through