I dare you to anticipate Joaquin Phoenix in Todd Phillips's JOKER (now with something that may or may not be a SPOILER)

Joker is a failed standup comic in this. C'mon, those guys don't do anything, take it from me.

but comedians are the philosopher kings of our time

Picturing a variation of this in which a schlubby Joker just goes around pulling his thing out and asking people if it's okay for him to jerk off in front of them.

youre thinking of the flash

heyo

The only good thing that can come of this movie is its inevitable On Cinema review.

this looks like a five bagger

"like the more recent james bond movies we get into the joker's origins, except instead of a spy he's a criminal mastermind. he'd be a formidable foe for my character in decker, kington, who's a mastermind of codes" it writes itself

“Next up we’ve got ‘The Joker’ starring Joker... uh, Jack... Joking Phoenix”

Stand-up comedy was the thing that people with little artistic talent looking for quick fame veered towards in the 80s. It was a perfect fit for The king of comedy. Today the thing would probably be youtube stardom. but i guess that wouldn't get a spooky clown movie any prestige.

skimmed the screenplay today and loooooool

Stand-up comedy was the thing that people with little artistic talent looking for quick fame veered towards in the 80s.

this has always happened and is arguably worse today

honestly just rewatch []Observe and Report[] or The Comedy

triple feature

Todd Phillips going "serious" isn't nearly as much of a surprise at the Farrelly brothers. he's made dramas. and The Hangover is great (...iirc)

Nah, the first Hangover - which Phillips, significantly, didn't write - is a very good low comedy.

(#2 is atrocious, Road Trip and Old School each have a couple of well-done set pieces but are basically reprehensible. never heard of War Dogs until this post!)
(several of the Farrelly bros films are good-ish, feel distinctly the work of specific authors, and their casting of differently-abled actors in "normal" roles ameliorates some of their other queasiness. it's only the writer of bad serious novels that directed the bad serious film from other ppl's screenplay though.)

yeah most of his comedies are good

Can't remember laughing once during any of the Hangover movies tbh.

hopefully JOKER will make up for that

I love Road Trip just because of one line "It's supposed to be a challenge, that's why they call it a shortcut. If it was easy it would just be the way."

Road Trip is so mechanically, cynically bad.

And all kinds of bad -ists, iirc.

I love Road Trip just because of one line "It's supposed to be a challenge, that's why they call it a shortcut. If it was easy it would just be the way."

“Next up we’ve got ‘The Joker’ starring Joker... uh, Jack... Joking Phoenix”

Joe... Jo-Jack... Jo ack... Phone Jack

Jaw-kin Penis...uh, Fenis. Phoenix.

Joke phone I X

Are those Cam'ron lyrics

debt to a certain Scorsese film looks obscene

https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review-joker-is-a-punishingly-self-serious-mishmash-of-borrowed-parts/

so i here this has a subway scene based on bernie goetz but instead of black kids it's wall street execs harassing him

because the bad thing about the 1% is that they are always riding public transport and harassing the proles on them

Well, back in the early '80s there were no taxis or limousines, so rich and poor alike mingled freely on the subways. It was all part of the vibrant tapestry of city life, as depicted in at least three of Patti Smith's memoirs.

Was reading Ebert's review of Todd Phillips's Due Date, which sounds like a similar "homage to"/steal from Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.

the Todd Phillips film i saw was a bootleg video of Frat House when i was in college iirc -- it was a very "serious" film about dumb dudes drinking beer and slapping the filmmakers across the face.

An Oscar for that film would rile up the MCU creators and its fans and that in itself might be worth it.

That is a very hot + fresh + good take.

Lol It would just mean that instead of three relatively light Marvel movies a year we would suddenly get a spate of "dark" Marvel movies.

yeah, be careful what you wish for
this winter... Marvel Dark presents... STRIKEFORCE MORITURI
actually that would be dope
MODOK UNBOUND
no that would be dope too
KA ZAR and HOWARD THE DUCK in
actually, let's try this

I assume a dark Howard the Duck would involve him confronting the evil child molester from the first movie for extra #wokeness

cannot wait for tim burtons howard the duck to reveal that his daddy wanted him to be an accountant and thats why hes so sad now

has anyone seen this movie btw

is it any good

fwiw I haven't seen any reviews calling it bad, so ...

oh it's bad alright... bad to the bone... THE FUNNY BONE HAHAHAHAHAHAHEEEHEEEHEE IT'S JOKER TIME!

fwiw I haven't seen any reviews calling it bad, so ...

David Edelstein says "it panders to selfish, small-minded feelings of resentment and as such is profoundly boring. It’s a one-joke movie"..."monotonous, unpleasant, and morally blech"..."As Hannah Arendt saw banality in the supposed evil of the Nazi Adolf Eichmann, I see in Joker an attempt to elevate nerdy revenge to the plane of myth."

Glenn Kenny says "Fleck’s alienation in the early scenes evokes Travis Bickle’s, but this movie is too chicken-livered to give Fleck Bickle’s racism"..."As social commentary, “Joker” is pernicious garbage...The final minutes, which will move any sentient viewer to mutter “would you just pick a goddamn ending and stick to it?” are likely an indication of what kind of mess we would have had on our hands had Phillips been left entirely to his own cynical incoherent devices for the entire runtime."

Stephanie Zacharek says "the aggressive and possibly irresponsible idiocy of Joker overall is [Phillips'] alone to answer for. Phillips may want us to think he’s giving us a movie all about the emptiness of our culture, but really, he’s just offering a prime example of it"..."Joker — which was written by Phillips and Scott Silver — doesn’t have a plot; it’s more like a bunch of reaction GIFs strung together"..."Joker is dark only in a stupidly adolescent way, but it wants us to think it’s imparting subtle political or cultural wisdom."

oh, I've heard plenty of criticisms. But those reviews, were they entirely negative, or they did they just highlight things they didn't like that?

Reading those blurbs I get a sense they didn't like the film.

Amid calling it monotonous, unpleasant, boring, aggressively idiotic and stupidly adolescent, they did say that it had some positive aspects, yes. Feel better now?

Critics man, just like those chad finance bros kicking the shit of the poor Joker when he is down on his knees. Can't a film have his dignity.

I'll be really curious, once all the reviews show up, how the average, well, averages out.

did any of them say anything about the movie as opposed to whether they agreed with whatever theyre disagreeing is the point of the movie

Critics man, just like those chad finance bros kicking the shit of the poor Joker when he is down on his knees. Can't a film have his dignity.

By some corners you mean the Jordan Peterson subreddit? Yeah I think so too.