PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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the new secretary for work and pensions is a Muse fan.. Erm... Not much else

calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:04 (six years ago)

Matt - Robert Mugabe died.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:25 (six years ago)

I know he will be working flat out today like he always does, but l want to wish a big happy birthday to colleague @johnmcdonnellMP the #PeoplesChancellor I hope you get a chance at some point in the day to celebrate! 🎉 pic.twitter.com/U6tZwFBh7J

— Angela Rayner 🌈 (@AngelaRayner) September 8, 2019

h b McD

calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:29 (six years ago)

Lib Dems sure are busy on non-aggression pacts, just like LJ was calling for.

so having made a big song and dance about refusing to work with Corbyn on the grounds that he was a 'Brexiter', Swinson's Lib Dems are now preparing to stand aside for... a Brexiter? https://t.co/Egs1gIjg6q pic.twitter.com/5KZ5bOyxWn

— tom (@malaiseforever) September 8, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:30 (six years ago)

Working flat out calmly as he always does

gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:31 (six years ago)

In theory but it’s a huge abuse of the royal prerogative and it’s involving her in party political stuff. It’s a mess and possibly illegal?


i hope you’re right!

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:32 (six years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/sep/08/the-flat-uk-economy-still-points-to-a-boris-johnson-election-victory

It's a confused enough reading, but factors in a few things to think about, i.e. we could be going to the polls when we are officially in a recession.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:44 (six years ago)

what's stopping the eu saying, "okay, we grant you a two year extension. since you asked so nicely."?

plax (ico), Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:57 (six years ago)

Provided Labour doesn’t allow the election to be dominated by Brexit and instead focuses on fixing the symptoms of a failed economic model: austerity, wages, job insecurity and a long-term failure to invest, victory is there for the taking.

that's exactly what I expect them to do, although more in a hope and see what happens manner - I always, with a feeling of dread, expect tories will win every election.

calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:59 (six years ago)

expect tories will win every election.

Rational to think this, but their form is poor, only 1 win outright in the last 6. But then theres the little brother party to help them over the line

anvil, Sunday, 8 September 2019 12:05 (six years ago)

the chief French diplomat Jean-Yves Le Drian said on tv this morning that, having seen no "alternative arrangements", he does not want France to approve another extension. Of course, this may be again the "good cop, bad cop" approach with Germany that we saw in March.

L'assie (Euler), Sunday, 8 September 2019 12:13 (six years ago)

my hope is that Boris will be caught between alienating the headbangers and the moderate tories if the election is beyond 31/10 with A50 extended and the BP will split the vote. But there are probably many options they can take to avoid this outcome, but I have no idea what they are rn

calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 12:14 (six years ago)

Beginning to think the election-delaying "let Boris stew in his own juice" tactic is not the best.

I've noticed Farage, Richard Tice and Claire Fox all playing Captain-Save-a-Boris recently, it seems obvious to me that they are gagging for an electoral pact - but that's not on if Boris is forced to ask for an extension, even if he plays awkward buggers. So keep the cunt spinning on the end of a rope for as long as possible.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 September 2019 12:17 (six years ago)

seems like the best option, whether figuratively or literally

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 September 2019 12:24 (six years ago)

Provided Labour doesn’t allow the election to be dominated by Brexit and instead focuses on fixing the symptoms of a failed economic model: austerity, wages, job insecurity and a long-term failure to invest, victory is there for the taking.

This doesn't seem likely, though - it's October / November 2019, Brexit will absolutely be 85% of the issues.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:04 (six years ago)

not on the stump necessarily, this is the point: of course brexit will dominate media coverage but that's the point of rallies and doorknocking, to end-run all that

mark s, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:06 (six years ago)

To the things that people want to talk about more than Brexit, which do not exist.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:08 (six years ago)

Very happy to be wrong, but again this is now, not two years ago.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:08 (six years ago)

They defeated Farage in Peterborough by precisely concentrating on issues other than brexit

calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:09 (six years ago)

To the things that people want to talk about more than Brexit, which do not exist.

― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, September 8, 2019 2:08 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

seriously i think this is bubble-fed nonsense

mark s, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:13 (six years ago)

Absolutely.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:23 (six years ago)

Peterborough was after the Brexit date had come and gone, it was a relief to get to talk about anything else - if they can repeat that, then brilliant.

I hope you're right, Mark! But other information does not suggest it:

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/qj23oopdop/YG%20Trackers%20-%20Top%20Issues_W.pdf

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:26 (six years ago)

Peterborough is seen as just the kind of leave voting high immigrant area that you'd think would be obsessed by Brexit talk. "Date had come and gone" didn't make the issue go away.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:50 (six years ago)

I think if anything, most people are sick of Brexit. "Get on with it" includes a large continent of those simply childishly bored of the stasis as well as those intent on necking with Johnson before careening off a cliff in a ford Thunderbird.

plax (ico), Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:55 (six years ago)

Usual thread participants are clearly a different category

plax (ico), Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:56 (six years ago)

this was a song about a girl getting into bed with the far right joanne https://t.co/kUkz6yqi7U

— sarah m (@sazza_jay) September 8, 2019

Thank You (Fattekin Mice Elf Control Again) (Noel Emits), Sunday, 8 September 2019 14:30 (six years ago)

I don't see a pact that really works for the BxP. Where can they win that isn't (or until v recently) already Tory? There are a few three way battles they could gain (Dover, Thurrock) but too risky and helps Labour more.

nashwan, Sunday, 8 September 2019 15:08 (six years ago)

Tory election strategy appears to be based on the belief that the North of England is a hotbed of raging bigots and that by doubling down on anti-snowflake culture war rhetoric they will see a whole swathe of red seats turning blue. That didn't work so well last time, even without the Brexit Party in play. You'd expect the LibDems to take seats off the Tories elsewhere as well.

I guess there'll be a sprinkling of splashing the cash to end austerity but "only once Brexit is out of the way" as well but it's been telegraphed so heavily Labour should have an attack line ready for that.

Matt DC, Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:15 (six years ago)

The BXP have said they will stand aside for MPs who support no deal. To me, this seems a high risk with shire Tories in marginals, but it may just be their opening gambit and they’re relying on Boris being desperate and grabbing at anything.

gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:40 (six years ago)

They'll be expecting a knighthood for Farage, providing he doesn't win a seat in the racist shithole of his choice, and some position or other in goverment, and Tice to be made ambassador to the US, for starters. Foot in the door stuff.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:46 (six years ago)

... I mean ennoblement for Farage.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:46 (six years ago)

I have absolutely no doubt they've been negotiating behind closed doors all this time. As I said, Farage, Tice and Claire Fox et al have been careful not to be critical of Johnson personally.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:48 (six years ago)

I don’t think Farage is standing in a constituency fwiw.

coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:52 (six years ago)

I wouldn’t be so sure of that until the declaration deadline is in.

gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:59 (six years ago)

otm

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 September 2019 18:01 (six years ago)

The north might be full of old and old fashioned people who have slightly ‘traditional’ values, but those values include voting against tories. There’s no way the culture war stuff outweighs the visceral hatred of the party of Thatcher.

AlanSmithee, Sunday, 8 September 2019 18:11 (six years ago)

That's what they used to say about Scotland.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 September 2019 18:42 (six years ago)

Reaching out to senior friends in Polish government this evening to ask again for them to consider vetoing any extension to Article 50. Not in either of our interests for this fiasco to continue. The sooner we leave the earlier we can start work on closer bilateral partnership

— Daniel Kawczynski (@DKShrewsbury) September 7, 2019

lol

gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 18:58 (six years ago)

he's the tallest mp in history, not the brightest mp in history

mark s, Sunday, 8 September 2019 19:02 (six years ago)

He once did this!

A Conservative MP told a one-legged drug addict in a wheelchair begging outside Parliament to 'get a job'.

The Daily Mail reports that Daniel Kawczynski 'admonished' the man for begging and told him that help was available to people in his situation through a Government scheme.

Mr Kawczynski was heard saying to Mark McGuigan, "get a job, find some work. Yes, I know it is hard, I have struggled too."

Speaking about the incident, which reportedly occurred on 7 October outside Westminster underground station, Mr McGuigan said that the 6ft 8in ministerial aide made him feel small and humiliated, before adding that he had spoken out in order to 'name and shame' Mr Kawczynski.

gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 19:08 (six years ago)

he's officially a giant *and* officially a knob

mark s, Sunday, 8 September 2019 19:15 (six years ago)

A bilateral relationship with Poland means Poland has to leave the EU as well, no? Can they take Hungary with them?

Frederik B, Sunday, 8 September 2019 19:27 (six years ago)

from d'ancona's latest: It was routine for those on the left to say that they hated most Conservatives with a passion but could still imagine having a pint with Boris.

waht

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Sunday, 8 September 2019 19:29 (six years ago)

maybe if you extend the definition of ‘having a pint’ to include glassing

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 September 2019 19:30 (six years ago)

he also says Boris was the heineken tory who can reach parts other tories cannot reach. absolute bolox and always was.

calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 19:45 (six years ago)

more like the beerhall putsch tory, despised in the north and in some of the tory shires now.

calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 19:47 (six years ago)

London media bubble shite.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:17 (six years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ED9Ic8NXkAMNRQA?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

lol

calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:18 (six years ago)

power of Chris Patten compels you

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:20 (six years ago)

Happy Science

koogs, Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:22 (six years ago)


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