why does MR seumas milne not give box office quotes like this
š„ Senior govt source responds š„ āThe rebelās without a clue should get their two Euros in ASAP. No one cares about the views of ex MPs, which is what theyāll all be by Christmas.ā— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) September 7, 2019
― ŃŠ°Š¼Š¾ŠŗŃŠøŃŠøŠŗŠ° me, daddy (||||||||), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:43 (six years ago)
the sight of LDs begging for amber rudd to join them.... mmmmmmmm edifying
― ŃŠ°Š¼Š¾ŠŗŃŠøŃŠøŠŗŠ° me, daddy (||||||||), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:44 (six years ago)
Labour would do well to distill its position into a really short sentence and then hammer that message constantly.ā coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:28 (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
We will negotiate a new deal with the EU, with protection of jobs, workers' rights and the environment at its core. We will then ask the people to give their view on that deal in a referendum against the option of remaining.
― ŃŠ°Š¼Š¾ŠŗŃŠøŃŠøŠŗŠ° me, daddy (||||||||), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:46 (six years ago)
We will negotiate the best deal possible; we will then offer that deal against an option to remain, so that both sides of the referendum are represented.
― gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:51 (six years ago)
Why campaign against your own deal?Because if people vote to leave again, it will be on the best possible terms.
― gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:52 (six years ago)
The editor in me says thatās still too long! Get it down to two snappy lines containing implicit criticism of BP/Tories and youāre good to go.
― coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:54 (six years ago)
how about CRUSH THE SABOTEURS
― donāt bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:55 (six years ago)
Lol probably but itās the gist! They should be aiming to pry off the Leave voters who havenāt changed their minds but donāt want no deal.
― gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:55 (six years ago)
Agree - these are good policies but also agree with Suzy that it still needs to be punchier.
I find that I agree with Suzy a lot about politics!
― the pinefox, Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:57 (six years ago)
"A Proper Choice, Mates"
― anvil, Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:59 (six years ago)
blobby blobby blobby
― ŃŠ°Š¼Š¾ŠŗŃŠøŃŠøŠŗŠ° me, daddy (||||||||), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:14 (six years ago)
Can the writers who post here come up with something? So much for experts lol
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:43 (six years ago)
Jesus fuck
Thatās politics! And Amberās resignation is massive news! https://t.co/G2uK2flsB7— Angela Smith MP (@angelasmithmp) September 7, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:46 (six years ago)
Iām trying! Am also able to forward anything we come up with to Labour speech writers, so letās get stuck in.
― coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:46 (six years ago)
probably the only way to once and for all get rid of farage, johnson and their ilk is to do the hard brexit. after they will be finished as they have nothing else in their political program. it could be worth it...
― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:52 (six years ago)
iām sure thatād be some comfort to the families of the thousands of sick and vulnerable people in the uk that a hard Brexit would kill
― donāt bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:56 (six years ago)
http://britainelects.com/2019/09/07/poll-tories-will-struggle-in-an-election-if-brexit-delayed/
These figures suggest an electoral backlash may be in store for Boris Johnson, in what seemingly is becoming the likely scenario of Britainās exit from the EU being delayed beyond the 31st of October and an election to be held shortly after. Voters would drift from the Tories to the Brexit Party, gifting Labour a chance at becoming the largest party with support from the Liberal Democrats.
perhaps a bit of woolgathering involved here but i like the sound of this scenario
― calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 09:18 (six years ago)
Westminster voting intention:CON: 31% (-4)LAB: 28% (+4)LDEM: 17% (-1)BREX: 13% (-1)via @DeltapollUK, 05 - 07 Sep— Britain Elects (@britainelects) September 8, 2019
latest deltapoll bringing sunday morning good vibes
― calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 09:37 (six years ago)
so what happens tomorrow if boris instructs brenda to deny royal assent to the no-no-deal bill? is that even an option?
― donāt bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 September 2019 09:40 (six years ago)
Beginning to think the election-delaying "let Boris stew in his own juice" tactic is not the best. It's going to be very difficult to impose legislation on a government that doesn't want it. I think Johnson has quite a few options including making life so difficult for the EU that Macron wouldn't countenance an extension anyway. Boris the Brexit martyr might also be a winning position, peeling away enough Brexit Party votes to triumph in a November election. Best plan is still what Corbyn originally proposed: VONC plus caretaker govt. If only Lib Dems and Tory rebels could see reason
― Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 8 September 2019 10:03 (six years ago)
just heard Sam Gyimah saying he wouldn't touch a Corbyn caretaker govt with a barge-pole but not with any rational explanation why he wouldn't.
― calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 10:12 (six years ago)
In January 2016, Ms Coffey voted to reject a proposed rule that would have required private landlords to make their homes āfit for human habitationā.
new Work and Pensions Secretary is another perfectly charming tory fit to oversee the regime of foodbanks and child poverty
― calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 10:28 (six years ago)
there appears to be an unapologetic tory/melt consensus that a corbyn govt would literally be worse than a no-deal brexit
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 8 September 2019 10:33 (six years ago)
I turned on 5live. Ash Sarkar was on PIENAAR'S POLITICS. That was an improvement.
A Lib Dem came on and was dreadful, aggressive and arrogant.
Sarkar queried the LD policy of taking any incoming MPs as if going home with anyone from a nightclub. It was something I had thought of -- that a LD party that keeps taking Con MPs is changing its own character. Doesn't this make the LDs even more right-wing than before?
― the pinefox, Sunday, 8 September 2019 10:54 (six years ago)
― gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:00 (six years ago)
Hi everyone I've been away for the last couple of weeks, what have I missed?
― Matt DC, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:01 (six years ago)
― gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:02 (six years ago)
Also the Tories will stand a candidate against Bercow to force him out
Downing Street declare war on Bercow pic.twitter.com/ZOZzyFrQuA— MoS_Politics (@MoS_Politics) September 7, 2019
― gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:03 (six years ago)
Xxpthe new secretary for work and pensions is a Muse fan.. Erm... Not much else
― calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:04 (six years ago)
Matt - Robert Mugabe died.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:25 (six years ago)
I know he will be working flat out today like he always does, but l want to wish a big happy birthday to colleague @johnmcdonnellMP the #PeoplesChancellor I hope you get a chance at some point in the day to celebrate! š pic.twitter.com/U6tZwFBh7J— Angela Rayner š (@AngelaRayner) September 8, 2019
h b McD
― calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:29 (six years ago)
Lib Dems sure are busy on non-aggression pacts, just like LJ was calling for.
so having made a big song and dance about refusing to work with Corbyn on the grounds that he was a 'Brexiter', Swinson's Lib Dems are now preparing to stand aside for... a Brexiter? https://t.co/Egs1gIjg6q pic.twitter.com/5KZ5bOyxWn— tom (@malaiseforever) September 8, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:30 (six years ago)
Working flat out calmly as he always does
― gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:31 (six years ago)
In theory but itās a huge abuse of the royal prerogative and itās involving her in party political stuff. Itās a mess and possibly illegal?
― donāt bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:32 (six years ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/sep/08/the-flat-uk-economy-still-points-to-a-boris-johnson-election-victory
It's a confused enough reading, but factors in a few things to think about, i.e. we could be going to the polls when we are officially in a recession.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:44 (six years ago)
what's stopping the eu saying, "okay, we grant you a two year extension. since you asked so nicely."?
― plax (ico), Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:57 (six years ago)
Provided Labour doesnāt allow the election to be dominated by Brexit and instead focuses on fixing the symptoms of a failed economic model: austerity, wages, job insecurity and a long-term failure to invest, victory is there for the taking.
that's exactly what I expect them to do, although more in a hope and see what happens manner - I always, with a feeling of dread, expect tories will win every election.
― calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 11:59 (six years ago)
expect tories will win every election.
Rational to think this, but their form is poor, only 1 win outright in the last 6. But then theres the little brother party to help them over the line
― anvil, Sunday, 8 September 2019 12:05 (six years ago)
the chief French diplomat Jean-Yves Le Drian said on tv this morning that, having seen no "alternative arrangements", he does not want France to approve another extension. Of course, this may be again the "good cop, bad cop" approach with Germany that we saw in March.
― L'assie (Euler), Sunday, 8 September 2019 12:13 (six years ago)
my hope is that Boris will be caught between alienating the headbangers and the moderate tories if the election is beyond 31/10 with A50 extended and the BP will split the vote. But there are probably many options they can take to avoid this outcome, but I have no idea what they are rn
― calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 12:14 (six years ago)
Beginning to think the election-delaying "let Boris stew in his own juice" tactic is not the best.
I've noticed Farage, Richard Tice and Claire Fox all playing Captain-Save-a-Boris recently, it seems obvious to me that they are gagging for an electoral pact - but that's not on if Boris is forced to ask for an extension, even if he plays awkward buggers. So keep the cunt spinning on the end of a rope for as long as possible.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 September 2019 12:17 (six years ago)
seems like the best option, whether figuratively or literally
― donāt bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 September 2019 12:24 (six years ago)
This doesn't seem likely, though - it's October / November 2019, Brexit will absolutely be 85% of the issues.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:04 (six years ago)
not on the stump necessarily, this is the point: of course brexit will dominate media coverage but that's the point of rallies and doorknocking, to end-run all that
― mark s, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:06 (six years ago)
To the things that people want to talk about more than Brexit, which do not exist.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:08 (six years ago)
Very happy to be wrong, but again this is now, not two years ago.
They defeated Farage in Peterborough by precisely concentrating on issues other than brexit
― calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:09 (six years ago)
To the things that people want to talk about more than Brexit, which do not exist.ā Andrew Farrell, Sunday, September 8, 2019 2:08 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
ā Andrew Farrell, Sunday, September 8, 2019 2:08 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
seriously i think this is bubble-fed nonsense
― mark s, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:13 (six years ago)
Absolutely.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:23 (six years ago)
Peterborough was after the Brexit date had come and gone, it was a relief to get to talk about anything else - if they can repeat that, then brilliant.
I hope you're right, Mark! But other information does not suggest it:
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/qj23oopdop/YG%20Trackers%20-%20Top%20Issues_W.pdf
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:26 (six years ago)