I dare you to anticipate Joaquin Phoenix in Todd Phillips's JOKER (now with something that may or may not be a SPOILER)

I'm already dreading hearing about this film for the next six months

Starship Troopers was incredible

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I'm already dreading hearing about this film for the next six months

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I'm already dreading hearing about this film for the next six months

Glad we’re already on it

lol

Thanks, Lucretia Martel

holy fucking shit it won the golden lion

Wow

Eh, Venice is the mens club of the arthouse world. Roman Polanski won runner up award. Anyone who is surprised by this hasn't paying attention the last few years.

Their last two winners sucked so this actually makes sense

Yeah, it's become another launchpad for the Oscars + an extremely concentrated dose of Italian misogyny. This is where an attendee walked the red carpet wearing a shirt with pro-Weinstein slogans a few years back.

"You can't prove he did it!"

had no idea Martel was a hardcore misogynist!

ie stfu Fred

Cameron Bailey asked Robert De Niro a long, thoughtful question about echoes of De Niro’s past work in Joker, and got such an iconically disinterested shrug from De Niro in response that someone in the balcony yelled “Legend!” #TIFF19

— Sam Adams (@SamuelAAdams) September 10, 2019

I thought that was Tim Curry.

the last couple of decades of de niro’s career has been one long disinterested shrug tbh

apart from bad grandpa obv

Ahem DIRTY Grandpa

Came up with a rhyme to help me remember pic.twitter.com/W4nlszvkbM

— Nick Wiger (@nickwiger) June 25, 2017

Lol

Ahem DIRTY Grandpa

always knew that rhyme would come in handy

I hope I live long enough to see the release of the inevitable Shitty Grandpa.

starring TJ Miller

now more than ever we feel Olivier's loss

Lord, get ready for a sea of these masks this Halloween

Also apparently there is a movie coming out called The Death of Dick Long

Standing O at TIFF

The entire phenomenon around this movie is making me go full Comic Book Guy

everyone should be testing how “academy award winner todd phillips” sounds out loud just so we’re all prepared

— Nick Usen (@nickusen) September 10, 2019

I'm trying to think of another fictional character so thoroughly irredeemable that this type of treatment would enrage me as much and I am coming up blank. It's partially due to the nature of the Joker as an amoral agent of chaos; most other characters are written in such a manner that there is shade and ambiguity to their motivations and you could see their actions charting a spectrum that swings from "good" to "evil" but that is emphatically not the Joker. He represents the exact opposite of Batman's grim order; gleeful chaos. He exists to deconstruct; it's what fuels him. He's not tortured by what he does; he revels in it. A story where the Joker is yearning for acceptance and fighting against his destructive impulses is not a story about the Joker. That struggle doesn't exist and placing it on that character fundamentally misunderstands everything about him.

I would have much less of a problem if Phoenix's "Joker" was a copycat who used the actual Joker as a conduit for his psychosis.

the Joker is very important to the recovery community

xp DJP
SPOILERS!!!

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I heard that's the case

okay lol, then I am not nearly as mad about this movie as I have been assuming that's true

So is this is a trend, then? Directors of dopey Hollywood comedies going Academy Award friendly? Adam McKay, Peter Farrelly, Todd fucking Phillips ...

Todd Phillips going "serious" isn't nearly as much of a surprise at the Farrelly brothers. he's made dramas. and The Hangover is great (...iirc)

It’s like how in catwoman Halle Berry is not the same catwoman from the batman movies but rather one of many catwomen that exist in that world xps

Man I hated war dogs

yes. terrible. miles teller is horrendous

The fact that this guy got his start with a GG Allin documentary has forever shaded my view of the rest of his filmography. I won’t say positively or negatively, but yeah. Penelope Spheeris thing, just you know, maybe a shittier version.

Oh man I didn’t know he did a Phish documentary too lol

Joker is a failed standup comic in this. C'mon, those guys don't do anything, take it from me.

but comedians are the philosopher kings of our time

Picturing a variation of this in which a schlubby Joker just goes around pulling his thing out and asking people if it's okay for him to jerk off in front of them.

youre thinking of the flash

heyo

The only good thing that can come of this movie is its inevitable On Cinema review.

this looks like a five bagger

"like the more recent james bond movies we get into the joker's origins, except instead of a spy he's a criminal mastermind. he'd be a formidable foe for my character in decker, kington, who's a mastermind of codes" it writes itself

“Next up we’ve got ‘The Joker’ starring Joker... uh, Jack... Joking Phoenix”

Stand-up comedy was the thing that people with little artistic talent looking for quick fame veered towards in the 80s. It was a perfect fit for The king of comedy. Today the thing would probably be youtube stardom. but i guess that wouldn't get a spooky clown movie any prestige.