PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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Yeah it's been interesting watching pro leave talkers trying to position Boris as their strong man. He just doesn't fit.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:13 (six years ago)

Amber Rudd has apparently resigned the whip.

ShariVari, Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:17 (six years ago)

Keep 'em coming

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:22 (six years ago)

Never a dull moment.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:22 (six years ago)

mmmmmmmm lovely

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:24 (six years ago)

Niiiiice

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:24 (six years ago)

I have resigned from Cabinet and surrendered the Conservative Whip.

I cannot stand by as good, loyal moderate Conservatives are expelled.

I have spoken to the PM and my Association Chairman to explain.

I remain committed to the One Nation values that drew me into politics. pic.twitter.com/kYmZHbLMES

— Amber Rudd MP (@AmberRuddHR) September 7, 2019

gyac, Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:26 (six years ago)

she'd have lost her seat anyway, but loving it.

calzino, Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:27 (six years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/VZ88Pdo.gif

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:27 (six years ago)

One Nation values lol stfu Amber

calzino, Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:28 (six years ago)

amber rudd has resigned to spend more time being completely okay with the hostile environment

— i am a skeleton and i am watching the cricket (@stephenaharper) September 7, 2019

gyac, Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:31 (six years ago)

Genuinely though how are they going to find enough candidates for a November election if it keeps up like this? Labour have been selecting candidates for ages.

gyac, Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:35 (six years ago)

One Nation Under A Gove...

just another country (snoball), Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:36 (six years ago)

well yeah she was happy to reside over a regime deporting people and locking them out from this nation of many sub-nations that decidedly wasn't one fucking nation.

calzino, Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:36 (six years ago)

Nigel Farage has offered Boris Johnson a “non-aggression pact” in Sunday Times interview, saying they can win a majority of 100 together

— Tim Shipman (@ShippersUnbound) September 7, 2019

gyac, Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:36 (six years ago)

he might have lend boris some mps, never mind standing them down the way things are going.

calzino, Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:38 (six years ago)

John Mann also standing down.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:42 (six years ago)

thank fuck

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:42 (six years ago)

saw a "the conservatives will lose all seats in scotland, now ruth has gone" take out in the wild today... think you'll find ruth has gone because...

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:46 (six years ago)

someone needs to write a piece about how right wing pols claiming One-Nation toryism as their doctrine is the worst kind of bullshit

calzino, Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:46 (six years ago)

My favourite iteration of that is all those media women who suggest Ken Clarke as head of GNU, but every single last one of them threw a fit a few years ago when he appeared on R4 and started chatting shit about ‘acquaintance rape’ v ‘rape-rape’.

coup de twat (suzy), Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:55 (six years ago)

John Mann also standing down.

Life is good.

Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:58 (six years ago)

A current (non-No10) special adviser texts re Amber Rudd:

“She should have been first out - she’s trashed her rep anyway now, my message would be fuck off to the Lib Dems where you belong.”

— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) September 7, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:05 (six years ago)

xp I had never read his views on this, Jesus Christ
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13444770

gyac, Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:05 (six years ago)

good luck uk

The Conservatives have extended their lead over Labour as pro-Brexit voters return to the party, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer.

Despite a week of political chaos that has seen Boris Johnson purge the party of 21 MPs who oppose his plans, the Tories recorded a 10-point lead over Labour. For the first time since March, more than half (53%) of leave voters now intend to vote Conservative. Almost half of all voters (46%) now think the Conservative party has in effect become the Brexit party.

The polling will be used by Johnson’s team as evidence that their ruthless strategy to push hard to secure Brexit and hold an election can work. However, the strategy has run aground as opposition parties are blocking an election from taking place.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/07/tories-extend-lead-over-labour-to-10-despite-chaotic-week

Simon H., Saturday, 7 September 2019 22:19 (six years ago)

Rudd-y Hell
Down To Earth With A Rudd
Rudd And Honour oh hold on

who do you think you are kidding mr cummings (Matt #2), Saturday, 7 September 2019 23:17 (six years ago)

If they are rising in the polls then the King vs Parliament narrative is working, or at least working "enough" to cover the eventuality of having to do extension after all. Parliament blocked the King is then plausible enough to hold off Farage if GE were post Oct-31 (if it really is Brexit Party they need to hold off).

I'm not super sold on the idea Boris has failed, or even that he's made a miscalculation. Maybe he has but this idea he's destroying the Tories electorally seems wildly optimistic

anvil, Sunday, 8 September 2019 06:11 (six years ago)

Fucked it from the perspective of numbers. They need to have a majority to do what they want, and that survation poll is putting them in a worse place than 2017. Not even the DUP would cover it. And he has got himself in quite a corner. There can be probably be a not very damaging climbdown for Johnson.

Corbyn would probably go if that poll is right though.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 September 2019 06:37 (six years ago)

The point of the whole thing is to turn the Tories into enough of an ERG party to neutralise the Brexit Party, and that’s what the polls now show. Most of the leaverish Just Get On With It voters who this appeals to are over 40.

Polls ask a really tiny sample, all things considered...

coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 8 September 2019 06:51 (six years ago)

Polls, posting as they normally etc.

I would say we haven't gone into an election campaign just yet. From the evidence its difficult to see Johnson holding it together. OTOH a lot of people will vote Lib Dem unless the Lab line of another deal (- May's red lines) with remain as option in another ref cuts through. And it's also whether the campaign is all about Brexit, like we thought it might be in 2017. It can't be all about that.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:14 (six years ago)

Well, Lib Dems are a single-issue party without any policies apart from staying in the EU. When I was watching QT in Thursday I noticed that Brexit Party twat and Iain Dale trying to put a wedge between ‘remain parties’ eg SNP/LD and Labour, which they did not characterise as such. I didn’t like the way both of those men kept interrupting Emily Thornberry and then acting as if it was she that stopped them from talking. ET is successful because she doesn’t suffer that kind of foolishness from men (she pretty much always gave way to the LD/SNP panellists).

Labour would do well to distill its position into a really short sentence and then hammer that message constantly.

coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:28 (six years ago)

Lib Dems are a single-issue party without any policies apart from staying in the EU

They have identity politics too though, this is the big danger, that they tap more successfully into that, People who vote for non-policy reasons, people who love stationery excessively

Labour would do well to distill its position into a really short sentence and then hammer that message constantly.

This, all day long, this. Nothing wrong with being soundbitey. Its tough because its not necessarily as easily distillable as Build The Wall or Medicare For All, but being snappy is good

anvil, Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:39 (six years ago)

why does MR seumas milne not give box office quotes like this

🔥 Senior govt source responds 🔥

“The rebel’s without a clue should get their two Euros in ASAP. No one cares about the views of ex MPs, which is what they’ll all be by Christmas.”

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) September 7, 2019

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:43 (six years ago)

the sight of LDs begging for amber rudd to join them.... mmmmmmmm edifying

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:44 (six years ago)

Labour would do well to distill its position into a really short sentence and then hammer that message constantly.
― coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:28 (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

We will negotiate a new deal with the EU, with protection of jobs, workers' rights and the environment at its core. We will then ask the people to give their view on that deal in a referendum against the option of remaining.

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:46 (six years ago)

We will negotiate the best deal possible; we will then offer that deal against an option to remain, so that both sides of the referendum are represented.

gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:51 (six years ago)

Why campaign against your own deal?

Because if people vote to leave again, it will be on the best possible terms.

gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:52 (six years ago)

The editor in me says that’s still too long! Get it down to two snappy lines containing implicit criticism of BP/Tories and you’re good to go.

coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:54 (six years ago)

how about CRUSH THE SABOTEURS

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:55 (six years ago)

Lol probably but it’s the gist! They should be aiming to pry off the Leave voters who haven’t changed their minds but don’t want no deal.

gyac, Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:55 (six years ago)

Agree - these are good policies but also agree with Suzy that it still needs to be punchier.

I find that I agree with Suzy a lot about politics!

the pinefox, Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:57 (six years ago)

"A Proper Choice, Mates"

anvil, Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:59 (six years ago)

blobby blobby blobby

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:14 (six years ago)

Can the writers who post here come up with something? So much for experts lol

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:43 (six years ago)

Jesus fuck

That’s politics! And Amber’s resignation is massive news! https://t.co/G2uK2flsB7

— Angela Smith MP (@angelasmithmp) September 7, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:46 (six years ago)

I’m trying! Am also able to forward anything we come up with to Labour speech writers, so let’s get stuck in.

coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:46 (six years ago)

probably the only way to once and for all get rid of farage, johnson and their ilk is to do the hard brexit. after they will be finished as they have nothing else in their political program. it could be worth it...

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:52 (six years ago)

i’m sure that’d be some comfort to the families of the thousands of sick and vulnerable people in the uk that a hard Brexit would kill

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:56 (six years ago)

http://britainelects.com/2019/09/07/poll-tories-will-struggle-in-an-election-if-brexit-delayed/

These figures suggest an electoral backlash may be in store for Boris Johnson, in what seemingly is becoming the likely scenario of Britain’s exit from the EU being delayed beyond the 31st of October and an election to be held shortly after. Voters would drift from the Tories to the Brexit Party, gifting Labour a chance at becoming the largest party with support from the Liberal Democrats.

perhaps a bit of woolgathering involved here but i like the sound of this scenario

calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 09:18 (six years ago)

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 31% (-4)
LAB: 28% (+4)
LDEM: 17% (-1)
BREX: 13% (-1)

via @DeltapollUK, 05 - 07 Sep

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) September 8, 2019

latest deltapoll bringing sunday morning good vibes

calzino, Sunday, 8 September 2019 09:37 (six years ago)


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