the jeffrey epstein memorial poll and conspiracy-mongering thread

Ronan Farrow just dropped a big bomb on Ito and the Media Lab

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-an-elite-university-research-center-concealed-its-relationship-with-jeffrey-epstein

Ito resigning.

great timing on that new Bill Gates doc.

As with the Polanski and Weinstein cases I seem to meet a lot of people who are under the impression these men simply liked going to excessive, debauched parties, which (so people maintain) is what one does, and what one would do, if one was in showbiz and/or had a lot of money.

It's disturbing: these people can't seem to tell the difference between excess and abuse.

Plus, you don't have to go to an exclusive millionaire sex party to witness an example of someone who is having sex not because they want to but because they need money or are being controlled or intimidated. That could be the person who sits next to you at work. So really, the blindness to what this dude and his buddies actually were doing, the rhetoric of it was just wild times and high jinks, is weak and troubling imo.

reminder to self: don't invest with or take money from assholes

— Joi Ito (@Joi) March 12, 2008

whoops

only 468 people are talking about this?

I told the @nytimes everything. So did whistleblowers I was in touch with inside @MIT and @Edge. They printed none of the most damning truths. @joi is on the board of the NYT.

THANK GOD FOR @RonanFarrow https://t.co/MMFI9umhf2

— Xeni Jardin (@xeni) September 7, 2019

weird that the nyt would choose to prop up the ruling class, seems v out of character

The MacArthur Foundation today accepted the resignation of Joi Ito as a member of our board and our affiliate @LeverforChange, effective immediately. We thank Ito for his service.

— MacArthur Foundation (@macfound) September 7, 2019

not sure what xeni is saying there; that she had the info in ronan's profile? he doesn't quote her anywhere.

That NYT didn't want to publish damning information on Ito, who coincidentally also sat on their board. I don't think she expected Farrow to quote her. I mean, she seems pretty happy that he exists :)

the idea the times wouldnt report on this bc a dude that would be associated w epstein sat on their board seems several degrees more cynical abt the nyt newsroom than I'm willing to be even at this late date

Weird opinion

Yeah, why is that hard to believe, D-40? And I mean, not just about the NYT.

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voted wacked

The only counterargument I can see to whacked is -- what good would that do anyone with so much documentation out there? OTOH, still easier to nab someone with his testimony than without.

Dead men tell no tales

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Bill Gates says he met with Jeffrey Epstein because he knew "a lot of rich people" https://t.co/xFAXrCxDQD pic.twitter.com/QcaVk52WZM

— The Verge (@verge) September 11, 2019

Among the guests on the list: Elon Musk, Joi Ito, Peter Thiel, Mark Zuckerberg, Priscilla Chan, Michelle Yee, and Reid Hoffman.

And of course Jeffrey Epstein.

It was in fact Hoffman’s executive assistant who sent out the list, according to the email signature.

— Anand Giridharadas (@AnandWrites) September 11, 2019

I hate to be that guy, but I'm not clear on how that implicates Thiel, Zuckerberg or Chan. Is it saying that everyone invited received a guest list in advance and knew Jeffrey Epstein would be there? And was this like a 10 person dinner or a hundred person dinner? I just think people shouldn't be sloppy with equating someone who kinda sorta traveled in the same circles with him to someone who took money from him, partied with him, went to his island etc.

I mean honestly every super-rich person in America (on earth?) is probably one degree of separation from Jeffrey Epstein. Not that I think that highly of the super-rich, but they're not ALL pedophiles and/or pedophile enablers.

Not implicating them (at least on my end, by sharing the tweet), but it’s good to know who he’s been a guest of honor with.

it seems to be saying the knew in advance, yes?

I hate to be that guy, but I'm not clear on how that implicates Thiel, Zuckerberg or Chan. Is it saying that everyone invited received a guest list in advance and knew Jeffrey Epstein would be there? And was this like a 10 person dinner or a hundred person dinner? I just think people shouldn't be sloppy with equating someone who kinda sorta traveled in the same circles with him to someone who took money from him, partied with him, went to his island etc.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:32 PM (thirteen minutes ago)

Baumé french cuisine moderne is served up by two-person staff serving few tables each service.

this was an intimate dinner with jeffrey

I mean honestly every super-rich person in America (on earth?) is probably one degree of separation from Jeffrey Epstein. Not that I think that highly of the super-rich, but they're not ALL pedophiles and/or pedophile enablers.

alright I'm gonna stop being Abraham pleading to save Sodom then.

i don't know the specifics of how public his previous "thing" was but i assume it wasn't exactly uncommon knowledge that the dude was busted right? at least in those circles. i don't know what level of fame he had before (first ILX mention afaict is from goole in 2015, related to the westminster paedo ring).

The super-rich apparently don't perform a basic Google search on who they might be meeting with.

If billionaires had to be careful to disassociate themselves from every sort of criminal billionaire, they have to figure out how to avoid associating with themselves.

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An anonymous massage therapist who claims to have been sexually assaulted by Kevin Spacey has died, according to a notice filed in court by the actor's attorneys.

The individual, suing as a "John Doe," filed claims in September 2018 with the allegation of being forced to grab the actor's genitals twice during a massage two years earlier at a private residence in Malibu. In May, a federal judge in California allowed the case to move forward despite Spacey's objection that the plaintiff's identity was being shielded.

Now, just a month after the parties came to a plan for proceeding in the suit that detailed prospective discovery and envisioned a seven- to 11-day trial, the plaintiff's attorney has informed Spacey that the client "recently passed."

Why did Jeffrey Epstein’s private jet fly to Riyadh on the eve of the 2016 election? https://t.co/2IgV0rqFbA via @thisisinsider

— Noah Shachtman (@NoahShachtman) September 20, 2019

Sounds like this guy went to great lengths for sex stuff, so if I had to answer that question I would say: sex stuff.

Yeah, why is that hard to believe, D-40? And I mean, not just about the NYT.

― Frederik B, Monday, September 9, 2019 4:52 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

because a cover up like that would be huge news to reporters within the organization that's trying to orchestrate the cover up? lol

It's not news if it happens all the time, though? Like, you don't think these stories gets buried all the time?

i dont think that the nytimes is in the habit of burying stories bc of a random board member, no -- ill buy that like jeff bezos has the kind of power to squash or softpedal stories critical of amazon but the idea that reporters are just like *shrug* bc some dude they never heard of who doesnt work in the news room wants to kill a story is patently absurd

like, a reporter who *exposed* a story like that could get a pulitzer lol its working against the incentives of being a journalist

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Welp here's one more guy with a death wish

This is BadVolf, the former Palm Besch County Sheriff’s Office deputy who I’ve spoken about before. He became an activist about police corruption in America and was calling out corruption around Epstein case from the beginning , he has the Epstein tapes. https://t.co/hhIfxnmBCv

— detty (@0ddette) October 1, 2019

At Financial Trust, a company with fewer than a dozen employees, investment expenses varied widely, from $1.3 million in 2000 to $16 million in 2004 to $42 million in 2005. In 2006 — the year Mr. Epstein was charged in Florida — Financial Trust pushed $117 million into an unnamed subsidiary whose purpose was undisclosed. The subsidiary was apparently transferred to Southern Trust in 2013, and by the end of 2017 the subsidiary accounted for more than half of the company’s $391 million in assets. The filings also disclose that Southern Trust received a $30.5 million loan that same year, but don’t say who provided it.

One thing the financial statements make clear: Mr. Epstein paid himself handsomely. He pocketed $400 million in dividends and other payments from the companies starting in 1999 — the first full year after he moved his operations to the Virgin Islands from New York.

The opacity of Mr. Epstein’s financial dealings has been a perplexing issue since he was arrested in July on federal charges of sex trafficking with underage girls. Although the criminal case against him closed after he committed suicide in federal custody in August, Mr. Epstein’s finances remain an important matter for women who are suing his estate claiming they were among his victims.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/business/jeffrey-epstein-southern-trust.html

Incredibly rich people are always looking for ways to grow their fortunes, and Epstein probably was investing a little and playing a shell game with the rest, right? Probably another case where someone could have thrown cash in an index fund and come out ahead, instead they’re behind or get a pittance so their buddy gets to jet around and buy islands

*nods sagely* yes, this checks out 100%, we've all flown around the world to break off a friendship with someone, while surrounded by teenage girls who were also there for some reason

Prince Andrew claims 2010 Jeffrey Epstein visit in NYC was to end friendship https://t.co/54NrvJJ6DW pic.twitter.com/tsPNaY67P7

— New York Post (@nypost) October 6, 2019

the obligations on royalty are extremely onerous.

friendship ended with JEFFREY

"Believe me, this is hurting me as much as it's hurting you."

listen we had great times at the teen sex parties but those days are over now