2020 Democratic presidential primary

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Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz says he's no longer considering an independent presidential bid in 2020. https://t.co/aosbGYhYYl

— The Associated Press (@AP) September 6, 2019

Simon H., Friday, 6 September 2019 17:59 (six years ago)

phew

I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Friday, 6 September 2019 18:09 (six years ago)

The four Starbucks assistant vice presidents he would have coaxed into voting for him as a third challenger.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 September 2019 18:11 (six years ago)

so are WaPo determined to prove Bernie right about them? this is horseshit

Bernie Sanders’s formulation smacks of population control by limiting nonwhite births, @JRubinBlogger writes https://t.co/9kSTKnkqkY

— Washington Post Opinions (@PostOpinions) September 5, 2019

Simon H., Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:46 (six years ago)

It's Jennifer Rubin, what do you expect?

Frederik B, Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:54 (six years ago)

fuck rubin

k3vin k., Sunday, 8 September 2019 05:44 (six years ago)

fumerican recordings

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 8 September 2019 09:43 (six years ago)

the CBS/yougov polls out from the early states are v v interesting

IA: Biden 29, Sanders 26, Warren 17
NH: Warren 27, Biden 26, Sanders 25
NV: Sanders 29, Biden 27, Warren 18
SC: Biden 43, Sanders 18, Warren 14

also a Globe poll in MA: Biden 26, Warren 24, Sanders 8

if biden loses IA, NH, and NV, idk if that SC lead will hold.

wario in the streets, waluigi in the sheets (m bison), Monday, 9 September 2019 03:50 (six years ago)

gotta figure out where the harris and buttigieg votes go, too

wario in the streets, waluigi in the sheets (m bison), Monday, 9 September 2019 03:51 (six years ago)

For the well-yeah file

A briefing memo accidentally left behind at a restaurant here showed Kamala Harris’ staff expected her to be grilled on her lack of presence in the state as well as her campaign’s “summer slump.”

The document, obtained exclusively by POLITICO, detailed intricacies of her campaign’s relationships with Granite Staters she was set to meet last weekend — from how much her campaign has donated to local politicians to advice she received from a local TV reporter. It included talking points to rebut expected criticisms from voters or reporters, such as the limited number of visits she’s made to the first-in-the-nation primary state and her lackluster poll results.

“You haven’t traveled to New Hampshire as frequently as some of your Democratic rivals,” the memo, titled "Briefing and Talking Points," said. “Is the state a priority for your campaign?”

Harris has struggled to break out of single digits in nationwide and New Hampshire polling over the past several weeks. In a CBS News poll released Sunday, she placed fifth in New Hampshire behind Pete Buttigieg and was 20 points behind frontrunner Elizabeth Warren

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:32 (six years ago)

From this scoop, we discover that Harris and her staff can read polls.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:36 (six years ago)

I like how Biden's current plan appears to be to lower expectations so that when he doesn't win any of the first four primaries he can still portray himself as a viable candidate because of his foresight/honesty

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 September 2019 15:41 (six years ago)

decisive turn for Harris will be if she can pick up Biden's african american support in time for NC. if that doesn't pan out for her it's game over.

If I had to bet at the moment I would put money on Warren, Bernie has a ceiling that she doesn't.

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 September 2019 15:42 (six years ago)

A decide turn for Harris would be if her staff stopped planting briefing memos in Applebee's.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:46 (six years ago)

I've been putting money on Warren, without it being a bet.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:51 (six years ago)

i won't have time to read it til tonight, but harris released her criminal justice plan

The plan, perhaps the most ambitious effort of Ms. Harris’s campaign so far, focuses on reducing the prison population, creating national standards in policing, ensuring humane treatment for incarcerated people and prioritizing historically vulnerable communities. It also embraces ideas that have gone from the policy fringe to largely consensus positions popular among Democrats, including ending mandatory minimum sentences, eliminating private prisons, legalizing marijuana and incentivizing states to untether themselves from a cash bail system that disproportionately burdens the poor.

...There are several progressive policies in Ms. Harris’s new plan that she opposed during her career as a prosecutor. She pushed for higher cash bails for certain crimes in 2004 as San Francisco’s district attorney, declined to support marijuana legalization in 2010 and, as California’s attorney general, refused to back independent investigations for police shootings as recently as 2014.

...When asked about her apparent evolution, Ms. Harris said the political environment had shifted — not her core ideology.

“I was swimming against the current, and thankfully the currents have changed,” she said. “The winds are in our sails. And I’m riding that just like everybody else is — because it’s long overdue.”

(https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/us/politics/kamala-harris-criminal-justice.html)

this is kind of what i meant by her recent The Daily interview, from which i came away feeling like i understood her better, especially her motivations in making decisions, while simultaneously thinking less of her as a candidate. she is a very pragmatic person, it sounds like. and that may very well be the right path to the presidency, who knows. obama was very pragmatic. he underwent a noteworthy "evolution" as well. i can understand being wary of political currents. they often limit what is possible and what can be achieved in the short-term, which is paramount for her, as i understand. but there's a difference between lying low and choosing to shift priorities when political currents are against you, vs being in a position of political power and actively pushing WITH the dumb political currents.

i've digressed into too many current metaphors and now i am on a boat, working all the live long until i see some shore again. anyway, looking forward to reading her plan. i'm sure it's packed with good stuff. i just wonder how much of that will be in there after she assesses the political currents of 2022 with a deadlocked senate.

or maybe there's no point in talking about plans because they don't become laws (?)

I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Monday, 9 September 2019 16:26 (six years ago)

“I was swimming against the current, and thankfully the currents have changed,” she said. “The winds are in our sails.

But the evidence of her actions show that swam with the current, not against it, and that she is happy to sail where the prevailing winds take her. This is pretty common among politicians who would like to prolong their careers, but her saying otherwise is pure pretense.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 9 September 2019 17:01 (six years ago)

feel like if you look at what’s been happening in boston with the straight pride parade protesters — essentially a judge throwing a tantrum because the DA wanted to drop charges, even saying that the nazis weren’t getting enough of an airing — you can surmise what sort of roadblocks harris might have encountered in a decidedly more pro-throwing-the-book time

maura, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 12:42 (six years ago)

i’m not entirely defending harris mind you, just noting that the discourse has evolved a lot and there are still institutional factors at play

maura, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 12:43 (six years ago)

Why look at the complicating factors of a situation when you can instead pretend the DA's office is an autocratic fiefdom immune to any and all outside forces and the person who holds it can do whatever they want, whenever they want?

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:04 (six years ago)

hahaha sigh. yeah

maura, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:35 (six years ago)

otm.

Yerac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:39 (six years ago)

yeah when you can look at her donors and immediately write her off on the merits

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:00 (six years ago)

It would have been perfectly accurate for Harris to say the current was too strong to swim against and rather than waste her strength, she chose to go where it took her and stay in office so she could be effective in other ways. But her saying she 'swam against it' denotes that she actively opposed it with the strength she possessed, and I don't see evidence of that.

I also believe her when she says she would have preferred a different direction at the time and likes the present direction better, but in using that imagery she is falsely crediting herself with being an active leader in opposition to that past "current". This is also very politician-like, and easily understood and forgiven, but it is not attractive when compared to some others in the race, who have taken stronger and more consistent stands over time.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:25 (six years ago)

Harris and foreign policy:

http://inthesetimes.com/article/22051/kamala-harris-foreign-policy-war-aipac-iran-north-korea-russia

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:47 (six years ago)

"She's got to be stopped."

Jim Cramer and a @CNBC panel discuss Wall Street executives being absolutely terrified of Elizabeth Warren and how they've never seen anything quite like it before. This is the greatest Warren campaign ad possible. pic.twitter.com/VCrGOfxOX0

— Adam Best (@adamcbest) September 10, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:13 (six years ago)

lol @ that bullshit hitpiece, I mean just check out this well-reasoned geopolitical critique

Kamala Harris has ... repeatedly depicting the North Korean peace process as a nefarious example of Trump cozying up to a dictator—rather than a de-escalation Korean people desperately want. In May, for example, amid climbing tensions between the U.S. and North Korea, and days after U.S. seizure of a North Korean ship, she said, “We cannot put our arms and embrace this North Korean dictator in the way this president has done.” And in June, during the Democratic debate, she declared, “You want to talk about North Korea, a real threat in terms of its nuclear arsenal. But what does [Trump] do? He embraces Kim Jong-un, a dictator, for the sake of a photo op.” The implication of this statement is that engaging Kim Jong-un in talks makes the world more dangerous, when—in fact—it’s the only path to formally ending the Korean War and reunifying families. Social movements in South Korea have long been calling for demilitarization, and they do not have the luxury of waiting for more desirable negotiating parties.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:20 (six years ago)

can anybody tell me why Alfred's latest post is blank for me? I have images turned on...

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:21 (six years ago)

do you have an add blocker or something? it's an embedded tweet.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:26 (six years ago)

I have a DuckDuckGo privacy extension and something called Cyberhaven download monitor as add-ons in my browser, but that's it

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:31 (six years ago)

lol

http://emersonpolling.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/47/2019/09/NH-Head-to-heads.png

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 20:07 (six years ago)

😒

maura, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:08 (six years ago)

DREWMENTUM

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:09 (six years ago)

if we're posting dumb single head-to-head polls then

#New Texas General Election Match-up:

Sanders 48% (+6)
Trump 42%

Biden 47% (+4)
Trump 43%

Castro 44% (+3)
Trump 41%

Warren 44% (+2)
Trump 42%

Booker 43% (+2)
Trump 41%

Harris 45% (+1)
Trump 44%@UnivisionNews /UH Pre-Debate Pollhttps://t.co/aP1mjJtC8V

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) September 10, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:12 (six years ago)

If you’re using Firefox you have to disable tracking protection (little shield in the address bar) to be able to see embedded tweets, YouTube videos, etc.

DJI, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:27 (six years ago)

aha! thanks

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:28 (six years ago)

I do not suggest trusting Jim Cramer on any subject.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 04:02 (six years ago)

Leftists shitting on the NYT for being the voice of centrism in America but jumping up and down with glee the moment Cramer, of all people, support their narrative is my new definition of the echo bubble.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 04:31 (six years ago)

and I say this as someone who really really hopes Warren is the president from 2020 to 2028.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 04:34 (six years ago)

as it happens, warren's nightly plea this evening for cash leaned on the Cramer bit precisely

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 05:07 (six years ago)

she also literally retweeted him and said "I support this message"

gbx, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 12:43 (six years ago)

lmao

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:41 (six years ago)

I thought this was interesting - the central point about black women delivering the margin of victory for Dems seems indisputable.

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/10/what-do-black-women-voters-want/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/8IkFvV5cxNv46Y3xHVzWOpThS4I=/1440x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/74FF5BABJVHDHP4TKL23ERC3HY.jpg

Most surveys, including the most recent Post-ABC News poll, show that the campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination is a three-person race between Biden, Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.). But the Essence-Black Women’s Roundtable survey shows it to be a four-person contest with Harris firmly in the mix. She comes in behind Biden overall at 15 percent and behind Sanders with 17.1 percent among younger black women voters.

Notice how Harris, the only black woman in the contest, gets more support the 18-to-34-year-olds than she does with the entire group of black women. With “criminal justice and policing reform” the top issue for these young women, the criminal justice plan Harris released Monday will be of great interest. Despite the polls, I’ve long believed Harris was stronger than it appears on the surface. This survey gives credence to my position.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:46 (six years ago)

https://beta.washingtonpost.com

sorry, due to my workout regime, glistening abs, and how much i love bleeding steak, i only read alpha opinions

I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:51 (six years ago)

Leftists shitting on the NYT for being the voice of centrism in America but jumping up and down with glee the moment Cramer, of all people, support their narrative is my new definition of the echo bubble.

― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, September 10, 2019 9:31 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

there are lots of leftists saying "warren will be bad for wall street"?

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:56 (six years ago)

I'm still confused about Biden's support in the black community.

akm, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:57 (six years ago)

I think it's fairly explicable - older black voters know how deeply racist this country is and are more inclined to think that as a result a white man (or in Hillary's case, a white woman) will have an easier time maneuvering the levers of power in their favor than a black candidate. Black voters on the whole didn't coalesce behind Obama until he won Iowa, there was a huge swing after that. Same dynamic.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:03 (six years ago)

I'm still confused about Biden's support in the black community.

― akm, Wednesday, September 11, 2019

I said last month that you can't underestimate the symbolism and reality of an older white dude gladly being a #2 to the first black president.

Shakey also otm.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:06 (six years ago)

I don't support Biden but I did have a moment where I was thinking "goddammit am I now an older black voter"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:08 (six years ago)

everybody over 35 is old fyi

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:12 (six years ago)


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