The September 2019 US Politics Thread is great Great GREAT GR8

Uhh...no. there was at most a 20% chance of a sliver of Alabama getting tropical storm winds, but that had passed out of the forecast by the time Trump said what he said.

He shared a Spaghetti model, which is mot a forecast, and includes experimental models that aren't even included in the NHC forecast track as proof (and they were well out of date).

He also warned Alabama that they might get hit hard, that there was at one point a 95% chance of them being hit (when there never was) and there's a photo of dude being briefed on a 5 day forecast with no Alabama track.

Dude made a dumb mistake and misremembered something but nobody would be talking about it if he didn't continue to needlessly self-own himself daily

The National Weather Service had to issue a statement to correct him so Alabamalamians didn't mistakenly think they'd be affected, so they didn't think it was so pointless.

"Targeted Patriot Farmers"--one of my favorite non-existent GBV songs

He also repeated it at a FEMA briefing saying he had new news that Alabama might get a piece of it after NWS had already corrected him.

I am with DJP. Blow us up

nobody would be talking about it if he didn't continue to needlessly self-own himself daily

this is just his way of boosting his brand as a tireless fighter against the liberals and mainstream media, but only his loyal base are buying that brand these days. they're the same ones who buy the hats.

this is one of the weakest and that's why he's playing it up

He's playing it up because he's a thin-skinned jackass who can never ever be wrong about anything.
And the "issue" is more about him changing an official NWS map to assuage his ego than his info being out of date.

Also you gotta remember that Trump's perceived legitimacy is predicated on this "choose your own facts" philosophy that only works if he can convince his followers that the media cares more about bringing him down than they do actual facts. I guess he somehow thinks this is a winning battle on that front. Remember how he spent his entire first month in office whining about the crowd size at his inauguration?

He still does that!

personally the only way I can get myself into his headspace is by thinking back to when I was an 8 year old kid desperately trying to get out of being grounded by arguing that my parents just had it out for me. he's already dug his heels in and the only thing he knows how to do is dig deeper. when I was a kid I was the same way.

I know we don't have a president where I'm from, but if we had one, I'm pretty sure I'd think one of her biggest responsibilities would be being up to date on potential catastrophic natural disasters.

esp when the pres is a catastrophic natural disaster hey o

where I'm from

is that still denmark

probably easier to keep track of storms in a country that size

I am with DJP. Blow us up

You're all turning into Chuck Heston at the end of the second Apes movie.

If the Grifter was doing the same shit with the demeanor of Dubya, would you be less angry at him? Seems like it.

yes if he had a totally different personality people wouldn't be as repulsed by his personality, great insight

I hated Dubya's demeanor!

My LiveJournal proves it

i'd suggest valuing his personality over his actions, or equal to them, is unproductive, Granny.

People (esp Dems) in general hated Dubya less or they would've turned on Michelle Obama for being such a pal to him by now.

where I'm from

is that still denmark

― j., Friday, September 6, 2019 2:15 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

hahahaha

People (esp Dems) in general hated Dubya less or they would've turned on Michelle Obama for being such a pal to him by now.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius),

This is addled logic. You're judging how much we loathe the worst president of our lifetimes by his participation in the usual post-presidency kumbaya?

can't parse that

but i'm glad you agree W was even worse

You're saying, "Dems can't possibly hate him if he pals around w/Michelle O," which uh

No, he's saying we don't hate Michelle enough

nice try, i'm not gonna get banned during the baseball playoffs again...

btw Jimmy Carter is heroic for generally shitting on the usual post-presidency kumbaya, for which he is apparently hated by all the other ex-occupants.

I am pretty sure you were here when I went on tirades about W, Morbs.

I'm not saying we all didn't hate him!

Hell I traded him off my Madden team

I agree that history will probably look upon Dubya as a worse president than Trump was but I at least was able to muster an ounce of sympathy for him, he was dealt a bad hand and got a ton of bad advice from the wrong people. Iraq was a disaster of historical proportions but lets face it, it was supported by a majority of Congress (including the 2016 Democratic nominee) and a good portion of the media as well. If this version of Trump became president in 2000 I feel like things would have gone even worse. Like I shudder to think what could've happened if 9/11 happened on his watch.

Also I think it's important to note that demeanor does matter, the way Trump's given half the country permission to openly dismiss any criticism whatsoever and act like they're being victimized 24/7 is something we're going to be seeing the effects of for generations. Maybe it's because I was a teenager who knew jack shit about politics during Dubya's first term but I don't recall there being a problem convincing people that 2 plus 2 was 4

got a ton of bad advice from the wrong people.

who he specifically chose to assist and advise him. that bad hand was largely self-dealt.

Bush was a pea-brained cretin so clueless about the cost of war that he let genuine evil cynics handle details. Fuck him forever.

I was a teenager who knew jack shit about politics during Dubya's first term but I don't recall there being a problem convincing people that 2 plus 2 was 4

there *are* instances; many.

Grifter could be worse if there's 8 years.

W was more immediately destructive on a global scale, but Trump has been much worse in terms of undermining long-standing institutions and norms and causing daily psychic dread.

in terms of undermining long-standing institutions and norms

as the Twitter joek goes, other than that he's bad

institutions like the federal election commission and the EPA tho

they don't want president baby to suffer the indignity of only getting 90% of the primary vote.

this is hilarious, extra-funny since it's twitter grifter Joe Walsh upset about getting marginalised, and good news for the unlikelihood of there being anyone vaguely competent from the GOP on the ticket

Maybe it's because I was a teenager who knew jack shit about politics during Dubya's first term but I don't recall there being a problem convincing people that 2 plus 2 was 4

― frogbs, 6. september 2019 22:47 (thirty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Eh, the whole run-up to the Iraq War really felt like people insisting a thousand times zero was a lot. Every week a new piece of 'evidence' that Hussein had done 9/11 with nuclear weapons from Nigeria, and nothing ever added up, but people insisted there was too much smoke.

lmao

pic.twitter.com/J3aTzBG7ao

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 6, 2019

Oh my fucking god

I am so confused, how can CNN simultaneously be fake news and cited as not fake news?

thats_how_the_tabloid_mentality_works

Are you fucking kidding me? Some rando at NOAA lying for Trump now?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/09/06/noaa-backs-president-trump-alabama-hurricane-forecast-rebukes-weather-service-office-that-accurately-contradicted-him/?tid=sm_fb

We are a joke

I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS NEW TWEET FROM DONALD J. TRUMP!!!!

CHECK OUT THIS NEW SHIT THIS MORON SAID! OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!

FUCK YOUR JOKE-ASS POTATO, BITHC

Actually it's an example of the head of the fucking NOAA throwing their own National Weather Service under the bus but hey you got your pointless smug rejoinder in

i know man but its just like jesus christ at what point can we just forget about this and maybe focus on the actual left

not to get all political or anything

Why don't ya fuck off

The constant stupid politics of the "acceptable topics" in this thread has gone beyond tedious and into Star Trek subreddit