PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

re the inevitable bad media blitz: as we squeaked a bit upthread, there was always going to be a downside to taking tony blair's advice

the possibly smaller upside is that these media outlets have a smaller outreach today than they did even in 2017: the failing fake news media, to coin a phrase

Excuse me, MY advice!

xp i see them there as well, suzy -- that's exactly how i know that i don't (for now) wish for any greater overlap!

i consider you and he co-terminous andrew :D

not worried about the ensuing bad media blitz - has been that way day in day out for 4 years now. I am worried about fighting an election against someone whose entire platform is 'ffs let's just get on with it' (however many difficulties and intricacies that may elide) - it's quite a resonant message I think. granted though, while it even resonates w me I'm never going to vote CON so I should take succour from the fact that other vectors will be at play in any GE

Doing Brexit means years more of hearing and seeing stuff about Brexit, it’s fucking unavoidable, senior gov minister not otm. I sincerely doubt the public gives a fuck what the Tories say about the NHS given the evidence of the last 9 years.

Even the most anti Corbyn person I know is pouring shit on the coverage of him this week

there are *no* circumstances where it'll be easy for a leftish Labour party to win a general election - i still think if Johnson can be beaten it will have to involve some kind of coalition-building

and then probably being seen to "waste time" by addressing the state of the existing constitution alongside making the economy a bit less murderous, so we can minimize future Tory fuckery as much as possible

I know the idea of Dom Cummings as 7D chess super-genius is looking rather shaky this week but am still nervous about a repeat of the targeted Facebook ad onslaught he supposedly "masterminded" for Leave, all needling in on specifically-honed shitty talking points, all not necessarily even true or within the normally acceptable scope of broadcast advertising bcz there is no scrutiny and even if there is it won't happen until it's too late

not looking forward to that combined with the already much-discussed failings of the Beeb and the tabloids and Murdoch press, the lack of a platform to point out the difficulties being elided, the way every ill-thought-out word on one side is picked up on as ZOMG cowardice! anti-semitism! Venezuela! terrrrist sympathiser! and on the other side, lol Boris legend...

there was a very slow old git in front of me in the Coop earlier - doing the usual annoying things like fiddling about with their change and checking which ugly monarch is on their threepenny bits, paying their utility bills on separate payment cards and doing it all as s-l-o-w-ly as poss. And then the clincher - a daily mail in their basket. grr. I hate it when elections are imminent - Tory voters become like when you notice a cluster of ants and realise the bastards are everywhere

possibly worth trying a kettle full of boiling water

“People want it done. They love it when we talk about schools, hospitals and police; they love it when we talk about broadband; they hate it when we talk about Brexit — and these people have just voted to talk more about Brexit. Nobody wants to spend three, six months rowing about Brexit.”

Except this isn't the case at all. If/once/wheneverifever there is a leave date, and the UK leaves, that is just the beginning of talking about Brexit.

The people may be done with Brexit, but Brexit isn't done with them.

xp or what Gyac said

Big problem with an Oct 15 election is if Boris Johnson fights on a platform of getting the backstop out of the deal at the EU council that week.
Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party will then stand candidates against the Tories, splitting the vote and handing power to Jeremy Corbyn.

— Christopher Hope📝 (@christopherhope) September 5, 2019

(xp) It might not be the case but do you think a nation of idiots is aware of that?

No, just saying it cannot be repeated and said as loudly as possible enough

yes - I know that brexit will be a salient political issue for the next twenty+ years... but I think if the CONs fight an election on 'let's bloody well just get on with it we're british ffs' it would be an electorally potent message

the scum rags (see The Sun) are turning this into a 'Corbz is a chicken' thing, almost completely absolving BJ.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDpxk0YWwAUktmz.jpg

"I know the idea of Dom Cummings as 7D chess super-genius is looking rather shaky this week but am still nervous about a repeat of the targeted Facebook ad onslaught he supposedly "masterminded" for Leave"

I'd like to think someone @ Lab social media section actually knows what he has done, and that they do have a strategy against it?

glad you're all remaining optimistic about the upcoming GE though 👍🏻

xp to conrad, I was referring to

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/91AB/production/_108619273_the-sun.jpg

(see yours is the Scottish Sun. lol)

How can someone be both dangerous and a chicken, this is some sub-Python shit

Think ye all need to clam down lads, it’s not even happened and it’s not even over til we’re crying over the exit poll

imagine being the PM and not even having the power to call a GE. entirely in labour's gift rn

even more yesterday!!!!!!!!!! pic.twitter.com/AF62J3ZXu9

— beth redmond 🍻 (@redbethmond) September 5, 2019

tbh i'm still crying over "which ugly monarch is on their threepenny bits"

How can someone be both dangerous and a chicken

salmonella? he's obviously giving boris the shits

xp he paints quite the picture doesn’t he

Real shame we can't get the marginal breakdown of those voter registrations. Hopefully it's a lot of kids living with their parents in some Tory suburban hell.

I thought she had already joined

I am very pleased to announce that I have joined @joswinson and the @LibDems, the strongest party to stop brexit, fight for equality and a fairer country.

— Luciana Berger (@lucianaberger) September 5, 2019

Fucking hell - Jo Johnson just quit the government cos he says Boris isn’t acting in the national interest!

His brother like. Wow.

Ugh, not the first Habs girl I’ve noticed pledging allegiance to a business feminist these past few weeks.

Journalists in the 1960s used "Orpington man" to designate a typical member of the lower middle class, for example as the target audience of an electoral or advertising appeal.[39]

Habs?

Oh brother!

It’s been an honour to represent Orpington for 9 years & to serve as a minister under three PMs. In recent weeks I’ve been torn between family loyalty and the national interest - it’s an unresolvable tension & time for others to take on my roles as MP & Minister. #overandout

— Jo Johnson (@JoJohnsonUK) September 5, 2019

Orpington chicken and duck. Main articles: Orpington (chicken) and Buff Duck

This is amazing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haberdashers%27_Aske%27s_School_for_Girls

"I think the insensitivity surrounding all parties' approach to asylum and immigration has a lot to say for the rise in not only anti-Semitism but any form of racism directed at immigrants. All parties have been responsible for not dealing with the issue in an appropriate manner.

Asked about Labour's stance on immigration she sighed and said: "I have to be very careful what I say here. I'm disappointed by the fact that they are playing to other parties' policies in order to discuss it all. Whereas the Labour Party in the past have been so strong and so active in combating and standing up for themselves, I'm surprised that on this particular issue, it's unfortunate that it's been played into."

2005 luciana berger otm

Asked whether he and his brother are “like” the Milibands, Boris Johnson said: “Absolutely not. We don't do things that way, that's a very left-wing thing ... only a socialist could do that to his brother, only a socialist could regard familial ties as being so trivial as to shaft his own brother.

“I mean, unbelievable. Only lefties can think like that ... they see people as discrete agents devoid of ties to society or to each other, and that's how Stalin could murder 20 million people.”

https://media1.giphy.com/media/fDzM81OYrNjJC/source.gif

Honestly this is a big gift to election campaigning - “not even his own brother trusts him”

!! re Jo Johnson

love 2 imagine future family dinners etc

https://www.hbo.com/content/dam/hbodata/series/succession/episodes/s2/succession-s2-ka-1920.jpg

Gauntlet now thrown down to other anti no deal ministers, especially in cabinet. If the prime minister’s own brother is willing to resign and stick the knife in out of conscience, the question will be, why can’t they?

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) September 5, 2019

Jo!!

after ref campaign his sisters brats were already booing: "you've stolen our future uncle boris" at least he will have more time to concentrate on the kids now.

brexit ref i meant to say obv

The first example of a politician stepping down to spend less time with their family? https://t.co/PxPZ7ufTBg

— Theresa Griffin MEP (@TheresaMEP) September 5, 2019

lol