PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

El Tomboto always otm.

lol @ this pic, like a father-daughter day at the opticians
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article19503974.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Shadow-Cabinet-meeting-in-Manchester-United-Kingdom-02-Sep-2019.jpg

Le sigh

manchester united kingdom sounds like a cursed place

The Art of Waaaaaah

― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:29 bookmarkflaglink

also

Hey oop, Jess is overcome with anger

Wow she's gone full "just a simple working class bumpkin"

Filling up with solidarity here

yeah Jess we get it he's a lying duplicitous fuck, catch up!

Somebody watch the mace, I think she's gonna go off

[Niche nerd update - Rebel alliance source says their legal advice is that the Kinnock amendment is legally meaningless]

— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) September 4, 2019

boris really is shit at speaking

we haven't kicked Harriet Harman out yet? fucking sort it out Jez

Dunno why I'm still watching tbh, this is a dead rubber, there'll be no election vote tonight

hmmm (from the comments to gyac’s tweet)

Not so sure. Kinnock amdmt attaches a purpose to the extension bill, that purpose being to debate and pass the WA. Technically thfr, Govt could reintro WA, debate it, defeat it, say purpose was fulfilled, and extension Act no longer applies. Result: no deal Brexit 31 Oct.

— Jackson Taylor (@Jack_Latour) September 4, 2019

TS Welsh tories vs Scottish tories

i'm not watching this because i'm drowning sorrows in lager in a pub. but he really is. he is not capable of uttering sentences. to be fair, it's actually quite hard - most of us don't when speaking. but he barely gets into half his sentence, before burbling into literal acoustic incoherence. a mush of phonemes.

boris really is shit at speaking

― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:45 bookmarkflaglink

xpost to this

stephen kinnock is politically inept ?

whyareyoudoingthisnow.jpg

A bit of my brain that I'm not fond of is suggesting that the gimmick with the tellers is "well how do we know this button even works if we don't press it?"

feels like an approach to the constitution generally tbh.

Deputy Speaker on the radio just: the Kinnock amendment passed, the May WA must be brought back unless the whole bill is killed

shrug emoji

Are Stephen Kinnock's parents about to vote his amendment down in the Lords

— Robin Wilde (@TheWildeRobin) September 4, 2019

Thornberry ignored the question so i'm guessing officially plan is to ignore the amendment until they can regroup and analyze/take advice

The Art of Waaaaaah

The amendment places no legal obligations on Parliament other than to hold a vote, but a series of theories about why the government acted as it did are doing the rounds. The first is that they hoped that it would cause Labour to abandon its support for the bill as a whole, as the Labour leadership also opposed the amendment. However, because Labour’s legal advice – and indeed the legal and constitutional advice of essentially every lawyer and constitutional expert on the planet as far as I can tell – is that the amendment means very little there was no real prospect of that, and indeed, even had it it been Labour would have been highly reluctant to be left holding the bag for a no-deal Brexit.

But the second and more important consequence is that because the vote passed by default, there is no division list. Even in defeat, the bill risked creating a far more dangerous blow to Boris Johnson than any effort to delay no deal – a positive majority for an alternative Brexit approach. Had 30 or so Labour MPs actually voted for the deal, the path to a plausible and negotiable deal other than that favoured by Johnson would have been clear.

Bush on Skinnocks amendment.

Ah right, I was thinking the government engineered the Skinnock amendment passing to play up the absurdity of May's WA having to go before Parliament yet again and thus link Corbyn and the opposition parties to this absurdity. This is the WA that the current PM voted for three times, of course.

thank fucking god for stephen bush tbh. he's not always right, and things have turned out differently than he predicted (how could they not) but by god it's soothing to read his words sometimes.

yep

Agreed, pouring one out for Skinnock failing at failing

Guess what? On Twitter, every middlebrow Polly Filla in the UK is performatively circle-jerking over Jess Phillips’ debate comments...

it was all bluster + no content so perfect for them

Bush in with the sanity. I think the Lords can also strip the amendment tomorrow if they ever get done filibustering.

Did the stream hiccup or does the speaker literally just interrupt like that?

Not watching atm, but could easily be Bercow carrying on as he normally does

Yeah I'm watching a Nazi doc for light relief

I'm not following the bit about no division list.....

i think that johnsons ppl wanted at all costs to avoid a positive brexit option having the moral weight of a majority of the commons for the first time

The report on the ground was that the Nay lobby was rammed and nothing in the debate made it look like the amendment would pass but these things are unknowable now which doesn't hurt the government

John Bercow here, sounding like he’s been slain in a Megadrive game pic.twitter.com/NbXlwee6hG

— Richard Wheeler (@richard_kaputt) February 26, 2019

Oh good it's Sun Tzoubz

― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, September 4, 2019 8:29 PM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I blame this thread for hearing the 'one two' intro as 'woke soubz'

https://youtu.be/wsUHdgHQ8jE

Tracer: If for some reason the SKinnock amendment had got a majority and that included a load of Tories, then Boris would be fucked as it'd be clear there *was* now a majority for the WA, backstop included. No division list means we'll never know (except we do and their wasn't)

not letting this lie, we all need some devo from time to time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsUHdgHQ8jE&frags=pl%2Cwn

LOL Tories.

Woke Soubz (woke soubz) she'll stop brexit
Woke Soubz (woke soubz) always votes this way
Woke Soubz (woke soubz) wokest Tory by miles
Woke Sooouubz alwaaayys shiiine

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) January 19, 2018

Wrong. Tonight’s motion will not succeed. It cannot be moved again until new session which begins on 14 Oct. Any election called after 14 Oct will have to take place after 31 October. Any bill to repeal or set aside FTPA can be amended and will have to get through Lords. https://t.co/X2mFvJU3df

— Nick Boles MP (@NickBoles) September 4, 2019

never seen jess phillips more visibly upset than when she's talking about the break-up of the conservative party

— steffan (@SteffanBlayney) September 4, 2019

Sweet.

guys i think bojo's fucked it

we can but hope

cool party leader the Tories have there - completely fucks his priorities and splits the party all on his first day on the job.

i'm no fan of Bernard Jenkin but if TMay/Boris's parliament doesn't go down on Wikipedia as the ZOMBIE PARLIAMENT i think we'll all be a little poorer for it