PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

xp how would you get the bants when Big Baz goes off though

Last night was a gift to memes

I’d like to bring something to Westminster’s attention pic.twitter.com/rkLcFNHfJz

— Ireland Simpsons Fans (@iresimpsonsfans) September 3, 2019

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— Ireland Simpsons Fans (@iresimpsonsfans) September 4, 2019

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— Ireland Simpsons Fans (@iresimpsonsfans) September 3, 2019

after last night I need a new fav Tory. I'm concerned Tommy Tugz smile is too bland & Dec-ish, but he does apparently speak dari

Scottish judge chucked out the "no proragation" case

Gina McKee and John Majors still at bat tomorrow tho

Northern Ireland one still on, too, I think?

yesterday the FT said Sobez had one with Jess Phillips as well?

I've lost track of which one's which tbh

Sleepwalking into disaster pic.twitter.com/C06GRR4H1O

— cyriak harris (@cyriakharris) September 4, 2019

jacob rees-qwop

cyriak :D

The JRM picture says more than a thousand words. But these are some sweet words imo:

Rees-Mogg's 'arrogant' speech cost government four extra vote, says Tory rebel

Turning back to Jacob Rees-Mogg, it has emerged that he single-handedly managed to push the size of the rebellion last night over the 20 mark. In an interview with the Today programme’s Ross Hawkins, Guto Bebb, one of the most prominent rebels, said that Rees-Mogg’s speech helped to persuade four MPs to join him in voting against the government. Bebb said:

There were at least four individuals who were still doubtful who changed their position to being supportive and voting with us on the back of Jacob’s performance. He was deemed to be arrogant, out of touch and I think the way in which he treated some of the interventions was a red rag to bull in many cases.

Philip Lee said he quit cos of the way JRM dismissed the doctor worried about no deal

If this bill can get done a prorogued Parliament hurts the govt more than the opposition so probably a good thing in short term if the cases fail

Yeah they're a side show at the moment, don't think Johnson will be more meaningfully damaged by losing in court

CHRIS MORRIS: Do you feel any pride now, about that?
SIR ARTHUR STREEB-GREEBLING: I feel nothing but pride. That's all I do feel. An empty pride, a hopeless vanity, a dreadful arrogance, a stupefyingly futile conceit - but at least it's something to hang onto. pic.twitter.com/ozXp5X4TXI

— Ian Penman (@pawboy2) September 4, 2019

There is some debate over whether all this – the prorogation, the expulsions – is a series of improvised moves born of panic or, on the contrary, a cunning plan. Within that question is a related one: is the PM’s chief aide, Dominic Cummings, an evil genius or what Marina Hyde calls a “crap svengali”? One of the victims of the Tory purge – Tory grandee and Churchill’s grandson Nicholas Soames – told BBC Newsnight he believes this is all very deliberate. The assumption is that Cummings is intentionally baiting MPs so that he can trigger an election that Johnson will then cast as a populist battle of “people vs parliament”.

If that’s right, it is surely the most high-risk electoral strategy ever attempted in this country. It knowingly alienates moderate Tory voters who have always quite liked, say, Ken Clarke, thereby writing off a string of seats – in the south and the West Country – that are likely to fall to the Liberal Democrats. It similarly dooms the Tories in Scotland. So Johnson will begin the next election campaign with that immediate handicap. The Cummings plan is to make up for those lost seats, and gain many more, by winning pro-leave seats in the Midlands and north of England, many of them Labour-held, chiefly by neutralising the Brexit party. Why vote for Nigel Farage when you can get a no-deal, full-monty Brexit with Johnson?

The trouble with that is, there are plenty of onetime Labour voters who were happy to vote leave in 2016, happy even to vote for Farage in May’s European elections, who may nevertheless baulk at voting Tory. Still, Cummings and Johnson are gambling on the belief that they can burn down every other plank of historic Tory support, but win power by delighting the hardcore Brexit base. Win the 35%, enrage everyone else.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/04/boris-johnson-electoral-gamble-wreck-tory-party

Freedland trying to figure out if it's Machiavellian or cunning Baldrick style. "Full-monty Brexit with Johnson" is a sentence I'll not forget today, sadly.

sics aggressively rude style of posting stands out for sure

sicco mode

slouching towards bedlam

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second a+ post in as many days, brexitbos good again

At cabinet this morning the chancellor discussed his plans ahead of today’s spending round where he will present an ambitious domestic agenda, delivering on the government’s priorities. He said that thanks to the hard work of the British people and tough decisions made over the last decade, we are beginning a new decade of renewal.

We are delivering a step-change in spending on people’s priorities, which is why we are spending more on the NHS, properly funding our schools, boosting further education and tackling violent crime by hiring 20,000 new police officers.

The prime minister thanked the chancellor and HM Treasury for all of their work and said that levelling up was at the core of this spending round, unlocking the talent of the whole of the United Kingdom.

corbyn did this

xp
if he is hardy enough to dish it out and take it without crying, what concern is there to keep fucking droning on about it? beyond doing your daily trolling rounds of course!

first "surrender bill" of the day :D

Moggwump the H8 pencil in human form needs to be kneecapped by MPs and media alike much more on how he stands to profit from No Deal imo

Hours of daylight on potential election day possibly an issue. If shorter daylight= lower turnout that will probably benefit tories. December 21st poll then.

I’d settle for him just being kneecapped tbh xp

calz if pointing out the utterly pointlessly aggressive approach taken by a few gatekeepers in this thread to any discussion they dont like is trolling find me a bridge to underhabit

if we have to discuss it in the combative terms that seem to be required i just think, to drone on, that yourself and others could probably do without being such right cunts quite so often. its not like the fractured smash of uk politics isnt a broad church at present with some room for uncertain questioning.

this is where i type "idk, but" so that wins can declare im being whimsically obtuse or whatever

ken clarke for pm an all

lol you are often obtuse and a troll, and a complete cunt in the same post. So i can't really take your faux outrage here seriously. A couple of harsh sentences got posted late at night, nobody got thread-banned, nobody died - nothing to see.

but you agree about ken clarke

jazz is good now

goodbye pork pie tugendhat

anyway lol

Not sure which version of the last night's meme I like best... pic.twitter.com/WUa6UnuqOv

— Martin Stabe (@martinstabe) September 4, 2019

I was not being pointlessly aggressive btw. Just trying to get some sense out of what sic was saying last night. It was odd to get someone on the JC hates the EU just at the moment he was doing his best to keep its integrity xps

Woodcraft in Corbynworld

^my people

Jimmy Crubbles played a blinder last night. Very much the right man for the moment. Saying this not just to avoid a tankie monstering. (Monster away). Political machinations are definitely his thing. Looking forward to his upcoming premiership, but also to effective labour succession planning because we could do with not being lead by an old white man for at least a little bit (record with old white women is poor too).

BJ just called JC caracas lmao

jazz always was good

caracas!.jpg

the matter is closed xyz we shall all carry on posting (bags sid james)

in better news my drywall joke on twitter has nearly gone viral

Hammond, Clarke and others still sitting on the government benches this morning

Ok darragh until next time you pointlessly try and tell me off for the way I post just note you are wasting your time. I find the classroom monitoring cute at best.

@NickBoles
Corbyn should learn from history. If Brown had called an election in Sept 2007, he would have won. By Oct, the honeymoon dust had worn off and it was too late. If Corbyn grants Johnson an Oct election, Johnson is odds on to win. By Nov, after an extension, he will be beatable.
10:24 AM · Sep 4, 2019

Buffoon undermines own argument - Johnson's honeymoon is already over, his polls bounce was pitiful and his party are at their weakest since before the global crash.

I find the classroom monitoring cute at best

lol you do this all the time

hmm will certainly look out for anyone itt wasting their time lecturing ppl, thx

effective labour succession planning

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQrrTkFyFrYPsz6dU4GjGpBxTj5OMbBD16ELZeRUqRuDjXGrOPZYw

He's ready

king power a worrying slogan tbh

dmac

it was the timing if anything of sic's post that bothered me the most as well and you don't make a convincing moderator tbf! But today is a new day and me and my main jazzman Ken have some '63 vintage hard bop flacs to download!

'63 vintage hard bop flacs

ah yes, the digital equivalent of ahem 'jazz mags' iirc

I am trying to argue with the content of what people post, like that was the intent last night xpost to mark

the "rebel" tories apparently opted to sit on their own side in their own old seats bcz the HoC is built not to be large enough for all its MPs or something

laura kuenssberg referred to this (bafflingly aka tellingly) as "sitting on the naughty step"

calz man i wouldnt have waded in if i wasnt ready for the digs, its no worse than what you get in the kitchen in tralee anyways!