PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

the fact of the matter is some people don't like geography teachers and university lecturers.

A relative has a real dislike of McD that when pressed collapses into just 'it's in his eyes, he look untrustworthy' shit osmosed thru negative media spin

"eventually" comes from a careless skim of the wikipedia page i think: rosebery was bored of politics (also bad at it) i think even before he became PM and he was PM for only just over a year before the libs were booted out of power, beginning their great slide to perdition

many of his projects were frustrated by his own party

Oh yeah out in the shires a lot of people think McDonnell is Semtex in human form.

My right wing cousin says about McD that the lack of dislike is the real worry ("Wolf in sheep's clothing", "Dangerous operator"), its the fact that he DOESN'T dislike him that really sets the alarm bells off for him. It should be more obvious on a psychological level that he is a future mass murderer and garage stealer, what if people don't realize?

My guess would be most people in the UK don’t have an opinion on John McDonnell.

I can't imagine why anyone could have any less than utter unconditional love for McD

there is an actor melt who I crossed swords with on a football forum after he said unkind things about McD. The ex-Coronation Street star couldn't articulate what he didn't like about McD, but this was someone who thought Owen Smith "was just the right type of leadership the PLP needs right now".

also this luvvie described the Alan Johnson memoir as "a great read"

bouncing yourself into an election just as the economy is going into recession and real wages are falling. strategic genius

92 amendments tabled in the Lords, they are gonna go hard on the filibuster

Alan Smithee is correct

These are the percentages of voting age adults, not just the Labour party, who responded "I have not heard of them" to each politician:

Barry Gardiner = 87%
Angela Rayner = 66%
Keir Starmer = 58%
John McDonnell = 50%
Tom Watson = 49%
Emily Thornberry = 49%
Shami Chakrabarti = 47%

Barry Gardiner = 87%

thank fsck

Tom Tugendhat = 0%

SV to thread

I have never heard of Tom Watson

feeling very seen and shamed that i *know* who all those ppl are tbrr

i shd take up something non-toxic and useful, maybe pokemon

There are obvious similarities

Watson is that steroids guy who bravely brought down the paedo ring, that Kevin Costner movie The Untouchables is based on him

If this the last week or so is a tactical error by Cummings/Johnson, what should they have done differently. If you want to leave on the most definitive terms possible, what was the right move here?

l-r: johnson, cummings
https://i.imgur.com/8WwvFwG.jpg

xp how would you get the bants when Big Baz goes off though

Last night was a gift to memes

I’d like to bring something to Westminster’s attention pic.twitter.com/rkLcFNHfJz

— Ireland Simpsons Fans (@iresimpsonsfans) September 3, 2019

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— Ireland Simpsons Fans (@iresimpsonsfans) September 4, 2019

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— Ireland Simpsons Fans (@iresimpsonsfans) September 3, 2019

after last night I need a new fav Tory. I'm concerned Tommy Tugz smile is too bland & Dec-ish, but he does apparently speak dari

Scottish judge chucked out the "no proragation" case

Gina McKee and John Majors still at bat tomorrow tho

Northern Ireland one still on, too, I think?

yesterday the FT said Sobez had one with Jess Phillips as well?

I've lost track of which one's which tbh

Sleepwalking into disaster pic.twitter.com/C06GRR4H1O

— cyriak harris (@cyriakharris) September 4, 2019

jacob rees-qwop

cyriak :D

The JRM picture says more than a thousand words. But these are some sweet words imo:

Rees-Mogg's 'arrogant' speech cost government four extra vote, says Tory rebel

Turning back to Jacob Rees-Mogg, it has emerged that he single-handedly managed to push the size of the rebellion last night over the 20 mark. In an interview with the Today programme’s Ross Hawkins, Guto Bebb, one of the most prominent rebels, said that Rees-Mogg’s speech helped to persuade four MPs to join him in voting against the government. Bebb said:

There were at least four individuals who were still doubtful who changed their position to being supportive and voting with us on the back of Jacob’s performance. He was deemed to be arrogant, out of touch and I think the way in which he treated some of the interventions was a red rag to bull in many cases.

Philip Lee said he quit cos of the way JRM dismissed the doctor worried about no deal

If this bill can get done a prorogued Parliament hurts the govt more than the opposition so probably a good thing in short term if the cases fail

Yeah they're a side show at the moment, don't think Johnson will be more meaningfully damaged by losing in court

CHRIS MORRIS: Do you feel any pride now, about that?
SIR ARTHUR STREEB-GREEBLING: I feel nothing but pride. That's all I do feel. An empty pride, a hopeless vanity, a dreadful arrogance, a stupefyingly futile conceit - but at least it's something to hang onto. pic.twitter.com/ozXp5X4TXI

— Ian Penman (@pawboy2) September 4, 2019

There is some debate over whether all this – the prorogation, the expulsions – is a series of improvised moves born of panic or, on the contrary, a cunning plan. Within that question is a related one: is the PM’s chief aide, Dominic Cummings, an evil genius or what Marina Hyde calls a “crap svengali”? One of the victims of the Tory purge – Tory grandee and Churchill’s grandson Nicholas Soames – told BBC Newsnight he believes this is all very deliberate. The assumption is that Cummings is intentionally baiting MPs so that he can trigger an election that Johnson will then cast as a populist battle of “people vs parliament”.

If that’s right, it is surely the most high-risk electoral strategy ever attempted in this country. It knowingly alienates moderate Tory voters who have always quite liked, say, Ken Clarke, thereby writing off a string of seats – in the south and the West Country – that are likely to fall to the Liberal Democrats. It similarly dooms the Tories in Scotland. So Johnson will begin the next election campaign with that immediate handicap. The Cummings plan is to make up for those lost seats, and gain many more, by winning pro-leave seats in the Midlands and north of England, many of them Labour-held, chiefly by neutralising the Brexit party. Why vote for Nigel Farage when you can get a no-deal, full-monty Brexit with Johnson?

The trouble with that is, there are plenty of onetime Labour voters who were happy to vote leave in 2016, happy even to vote for Farage in May’s European elections, who may nevertheless baulk at voting Tory. Still, Cummings and Johnson are gambling on the belief that they can burn down every other plank of historic Tory support, but win power by delighting the hardcore Brexit base. Win the 35%, enrage everyone else.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/04/boris-johnson-electoral-gamble-wreck-tory-party

Freedland trying to figure out if it's Machiavellian or cunning Baldrick style. "Full-monty Brexit with Johnson" is a sentence I'll not forget today, sadly.

sics aggressively rude style of posting stands out for sure

sicco mode

slouching towards bedlam

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second a+ post in as many days, brexitbos good again

At cabinet this morning the chancellor discussed his plans ahead of today’s spending round where he will present an ambitious domestic agenda, delivering on the government’s priorities. He said that thanks to the hard work of the British people and tough decisions made over the last decade, we are beginning a new decade of renewal.

We are delivering a step-change in spending on people’s priorities, which is why we are spending more on the NHS, properly funding our schools, boosting further education and tackling violent crime by hiring 20,000 new police officers.

The prime minister thanked the chancellor and HM Treasury for all of their work and said that levelling up was at the core of this spending round, unlocking the talent of the whole of the United Kingdom.

corbyn did this

xp
if he is hardy enough to dish it out and take it without crying, what concern is there to keep fucking droning on about it? beyond doing your daily trolling rounds of course!

first "surrender bill" of the day :D

Moggwump the H8 pencil in human form needs to be kneecapped by MPs and media alike much more on how he stands to profit from No Deal imo

Hours of daylight on potential election day possibly an issue. If shorter daylight= lower turnout that will probably benefit tories. December 21st poll then.

I’d settle for him just being kneecapped tbh xp

calz if pointing out the utterly pointlessly aggressive approach taken by a few gatekeepers in this thread to any discussion they dont like is trolling find me a bridge to underhabit

if we have to discuss it in the combative terms that seem to be required i just think, to drone on, that yourself and others could probably do without being such right cunts quite so often. its not like the fractured smash of uk politics isnt a broad church at present with some room for uncertain questioning.

this is where i type "idk, but" so that wins can declare im being whimsically obtuse or whatever

ken clarke for pm an all

lol you are often obtuse and a troll, and a complete cunt in the same post. So i can't really take your faux outrage here seriously. A couple of harsh sentences got posted late at night, nobody got thread-banned, nobody died - nothing to see.

but you agree about ken clarke

jazz is good now