PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

the Vardy boys are good at solving mysteries tho!

Jared O’Mara watch: Jared did not turn up

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:27 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Chris Williamson abstained as well, unless he was dying he should be expelled from the party already.

Also I feel very cheered on this rainy morning by the optimistic post above from Fizzles

as an aside on manner/character, with a polarized electorate is it possible not to be 'marmite'? at least to some degree? It seems to me the only people that aren't marmite are those that don't have enough exposure to be marmite yet. They're all marmite in the end, the establishment managerial non-marmite types have been roundly rejected the world over

but then what do I know, my preferred candidate is Jamie Vardy

idk if you are noting in a general way that calphz are right about corbyn orvas a stirring defence of them in response to my searing attack but i was more concerned with method rather than content innit

i worry about their electability!

With a polarized electorate I don't know if anyone is particularly electable (with obv exception of man like vardz)

https://tenor.com/9zE9.gif

Calzino’s methods are unimpeachable

the dying embers of labour right thought Eagle and Smith possessed that mysterious electability quality, they ended up looking hapless and incompetent communicators - every charge they levelled at Corbyn.

idk if you are noting in a general way that calphz are right about corbyn orvas a stirring defence of them in response to my searing attack but i was more concerned with method rather than content innit

i worry about their electability!

Worth watching Sir Nicolas Soames and Ken Clarke rolling their eyes at the Chief Whip of the Conservative party: https://t.co/tjs0lJskEZ

— Tom Coates (@tomcoates) September 4, 2019

I see #brexitmehole is trending now. Torn between pride and concern that this is modern stage Irishness

if yeats went in front of us now we could ask him about riding iseult on the babys tombstone or whatever hed soon stfu

i say we press on with it

Just keep calling him a tan til he rage deleted and wrote September 2019 about it

this man
fedora lightly resting on his head
he too has tweeted in his turn
have i seen him on the telly
perhaps called into liveline
once, about the luas

alas, all changed, changed utterly
a taxable duty is born

https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/70043472_10156522455002555_8203513549700464640_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQkdHbzmr2ZfbWKvr5v17NG6zRREeyZmVcB9Bt5cLHsbsXVag9bDgSAzFirHbIz1qtc&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr2-2.fna&oh=26c953f72297c0e753226a89f45348eb&oe=5E09C362

I hope this classic headline is visible.

have to say “you can’t trust boris johnson” is quite a resonant message

LOL Dombo & Bojo The Clown carrying on with the Corbyn's Surrender Bill rhetoric this morning.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDmnEpuXsAE6MWm?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Just passed a card shop that had some derogatory sign with his face on it outside as an ad. Wonder how he feels when he goes around seeing that.

I'll be sad when this is fun is all over and we get back to the unspectacular, slow decay of the hated United Kingdom

With a polarized electorate I don't know if anyone is particularly electable (with obv exception of man like vardz)

yeah get used to coalitions, whoever's in charge (as much as I crave a Corbzino majority I still ultimately want PR)

'right policies wrong leader' like you can separate the two so easily yeesh

Shane Warne says boris is good and just get on with brexit for goodness sake. Glad the likes of him bringing shade and nuance.

'right policies wrong leader' like you can separate the two so easily yeesh

It is weird how sections of the public have a personal dislike of Germy Cornbun which is entirely unrelated to him being a Trotskyite traitor who will rob our hard working wealth creators of a tiny fraction of their money

In all that excitement I didn't notice what a nice tie Bercow had on

Rory namedropping shamelessly on BBC News

If there’s anything Labour post-crash have proved, it’s that you don’t get the lefty policies without good cop Corbyn and bad cop McDonnell. I do like Keir Starmer, though - he’s my MP and his role in holding the project together shouldn’t be underestimated.

I think most of Cromby's detractors would find that Laura Pidcock quite unelectible as well, they just want a brylcreem boy who appeals to middle class liberals.

No, they want some liberal white feminism, especially if it’s the kind that can’t understand how it’s possible to be racist or classist in your interactions with people darker/poorer than you and your green room pals.

Can’t believe a rich right wing Australian supports the conservatives

Like I said before, they are all about AOC but they’d hate her if she sat on Corbyn’s frontbench. It’s very much about aesthetics and what they think a leader “should” look like.

Pleased to announce emma kennedy’s triumphant return to comedy

Phillip Lee is a hell of a catch for the Lib Dems. Super impressive, principled, well liked.

— Emma Kennedy (@EmmaKennedy) September 3, 2019

bit hard on sic

xxps

I think an oxbridge ex-lawyer guy who's Smart Enough For Middle England is, sadly, not viable as leader of the labour movement atm

xp

nobody died

Observation:

1: comedian David Mitchell once wrote a column pointing out that Marmite does not really have the qualities that are said to be 'like Marmite' - this is a Marmite marketing strategy. DM said that he, in fact, doesn't much mind Marmite either way.

Whatever one thinks of DM, I think he had a point and that this is a case of a phrase, with a somewhat useful meaning, becoming detached from reality.

2: the other day I heard a soccer pundit say that David Luiz was 'like Marmite' - not meaning that he divides opinion but that he is inconsistent and sometimes does good, sometimes bad things. For some broadcasters, this always doubtful phrase has now even been detached from what it was supposed to mean.

A minute later, the pundit was praised as having said something very insightful with this comment.

I quite like Marmite but I think I view eating it as a modest second best option behind the fuller pleasure of cheese.

i take it Emma missed the resignation of all those LGBT+ Lib Dems in all her excitement

love to see the LibDems giving up any pretence of being anything more than the Remain wing of the Conservative party.

right marmite wrong cheese

He’s the favourite. Comes from a lower middle class Labour background (hence the name), didn’t go to Oxford until postgraduate, and as an MP he’s been really proactive in a way I couldn’t sense in his predecessor.

For what it's worth I agree with sic upthread - Labour has right policies, wrong leader. For whatever reasons, whether to do with his actual qualities or simply the perception of them, Corbyn will never appeal to a broad enough section of the population to allow Labour the absolute majority needed to implement their policies. There are other Labour people who could front those same policies with more chance of electoral success.

― Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Sic's first post talked of a Labour collapse in the polls because of useless Jeremy and when pressed he talked about Labour foreign policy. I thought it was pom/Fred level 'he is Putin's puppet' but when pressed further it was the EU position that was causing a headache...and like, do you know what happened last night? It was embarrassing. But not quite what you are saying.

Although funnily enough a couple of FBPE twitter scum actually said a nice thing or two about Corbyn last night! If Boris is a shitshow during the campaign (and there were signs last night) and Swinson keeps posting as she ususally does I think Corbyn will look pretty good to the Midlands.

If only the Labour Party had a leader with the easy ability to appeal to voters of all classes, genders and ethnicities, like Boris Johnson.

Carrie Lam might be available soon

Sic often has an aggressively rude style of posting, so it's not like you feel duty bound to take off your gloves and keep it polite when he starts posting ill informed bollox on this thread. And at a rare moment of triumph as well ffs! I can't even count these moments on one hand.

In terms of Corbyn's appeal yes he is a common enough person in a way that most of us know someone like him, and whether that brings revulsion or not - and most people don't really know a Cameron or a Johnson. I do see people with his politics who can't stand JC. So its something beyond policy. I don't know if that in itself will be enough to keep him from No 10.

this morning Bush was talking about how JRM arrogantly lolling memes are something that has serious negative cut through traction for the tories outside the twitter commentariat, and Cameron worked hard at disguising his own poshness for a good reason.

me being me I thought he looked kinda beautiful and sad and I would feel a pang of regret watching him mount the scaffold

He looked humiliated afterwards, you hate to see it

all I can see is subhuman vermin... this long war has taken its toll on me!

(the calz/xyz rhetorical style of screaming and shooting wildly at literally anyone who gets close enough for them to see the whites of the eyes has my full endorsement as a method of coping with the stress of society's incipient collapse, but it can leave onlookers & victims alike unelucidated as to what opinions they actually wish everyone would hold)

Glad I caught on this one gem of a post (usually looking at the last 50). Oh I am so sorry you feel like this sic please post Ian Dunt's opinions on this thread more often I'll try to keep my 'screaming' to myself.

hey I endorsed it