PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

Needs a bawbag to get full marks

So, strategically, the idea is to set in stone that No Deal is no-go, which means the only options are deal or remain, which means that whoever wins the election would then be forced into the same untenable position as May, in search of a fantasy deal that will satisfy no majority?

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 bookmarkflaglink

One step at a time. This is going to go on for a potentially very long time. You are looking at one election, a recession. At the least.

Corbyn @ Cummings
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/indy100/WJgN8NinxBZ/26809-8mqc93.jpg

I'm getting real Scaramucci vibes from Cummings at this point.

At least that fat cunt Soames is retiring

yes, in the array of photos it looks like get a "mr" by their name if they're privy councillors (and male lol, justine greening is a privy councillor):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_members_of_the_British_Privy_Council

arcane HoC rules (privy councillor = has been in the cabinet at some point = what gyac just said)

*i didn't check everyone tho

whoever wins the election would then be forced into the same untenable position as May, in search of a fantasy deal that will satisfy no majority?

well, the make-up of the house changes after an election, so there may then be a majority for... something (good or bad)

or, you know, there may not - we may shake the snowglobe and end up exactly as stuck as before

Jereboam Crowbar having a good night.

This has been worth staying up for (watch the background). pic.twitter.com/ZbRrSguSLU

— Tami Hoffman (@TamiHoffman) September 3, 2019

rory gone

Wonder what odds I can get on Big Dom actually twatting somebody before the week's out

xpost Can a new majority simply ("simply") vote to just put No Deal back on the agenda?

several xps sorry i ended up posting that garbage uncorrected, pick the bones out of it if you need to

rory gone

What was he doing riding a bike in Edinburgh at this time of night?

Idk either so

Yes - if the Tories win a majority they can put No Deal back on the agenda. But they (quite) probably can't get a majority by campaigning for No Deal.

if labour/some unity govt win the next election there would be 1) a new deal (fewer of may's red lines, so mb customs union or the fabled 'common market 2.0', which were iirc the most popular options in the indicative voting they had in the commons a few months back) and then, if the arithmetic maintains 2) a referendum on the new deal v remain

a lot of the tories who voted with the govt tonight don't want no deal per se, they just want the threat to get a deal. no deal is unpopular

My guess is if Brexit is to go through it would be via a re-worded withdrawal agreement by a future commons with diff numbers.

But that needs an election. And fuck knows what else.

BREAKING: Rory Stewart confirms at the GQ awards (of all places) that he won’t be standing at the next election. His political career ends here... but goes out with quite a bang at the after party. https://t.co/gyVfICeMqy

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) September 3, 2019

The whole idea that the "threat" of No Deal gives the UK any sort of advantage is so risible but seems impossible to unpick

lol cummings getting pelters on NN

rip rory, walking & listening into the sunset

xps
sic, leave the thread fule!

Second ref suddenly feels quite likely.

hammond gone

lovely stuff

why is rory at the GQ awards? is it because i mentioned dylan jones upthread? can i control him now?

the state of this.

remove my whip if you will, but while Corbyn has a wonderful domestic agenda he is m/l a shambles of a leader and practical foreign policy is a foreign country to him afaict

The whole idea that the "threat" of No Deal gives the UK any sort of advantage is so risible but seems impossible to unpick

it's so crazy! who can defend this with a straight face for more than two seconds??

'Practical foreigh policy'. Yes, that's worked well for recent Labour PMs.

xxp

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seriously, stick your being a dick about dr who minutiae stuff, you have not a clue what you are fucking talking about.

remove my whip if you will, but while Corbyn has a wonderful domestic agenda he is m/l a shambles of a leader and practical foreign policy is a foreign country to him afaict

― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Ah, so he won't fuck Palestinians over or press the nuclear button on Putin. Clearer now.

Can I put money on Rory staging some sort of "surprise" comeback in the next year or so?

Our front page tomorrow... pic.twitter.com/8kcBPz7XPA

— Chris Musson (@ChrisMusson) September 3, 2019

Broadcasting/documentary presenting needs another idiosyncratic former Tory MP, right?

It does not

Michael Portillo RIP xp

it's so crazy! who can defend this with a straight face for more than two seconds??

Tracer - it only has to sound like it makes sense to people with Empire poisoning

calz - possibly! I've only seen him say things actively opposed to, or extremely sceptical on, EU / single market membership though. and nothing on Ireland, I'll do a search now

I like the practical Corbyn foreign policy where he actually gives a fuck about Ireland & the crimes of the state (my previous anger about Nia Griffith notwithstanding) but I guess it doesn’t fit too conveniently into the “he hates the west!!!1” narrative 🙃

Jared O’Mara watch: Jared did not turn up

if there's one thing that the last few years have taught us it's that corbyn doesn't have a clue what he's doing but will also use his total control to force labour mps to vote to leave nato as soon as he (never) gets into power

Ouch pic.twitter.com/1iFr5gfNdY

— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) September 3, 2019

"or extremely sceptical on, EU / single market membership though. and nothing on Ireland, I'll do a search now"

By rejecting calls for a general election he has helped ensure that no deal doesn't take place, but go off on one.

The state of these vox pops in the graun

Martin and the Woolleys bemoan the “collapse” of shopping in their market, which is only half-occupied on Tuesday. Business has suffered since they opened 20 to 30 years ago, they said, because of the rise of internet shopping, sprawling new supermarkets and American-style malls such as the Trafford Centre and Wigan’s Grand Arcade. All of this leads to a feeling that things used to be better. “Me and my wife knew, before we came into Europe and everything was OK, you could get a job and save up for a house. You can’t do it now. They’ve inflated all the prices, Europe,” said Ray Woolley.

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it's usually best to post before you have even a remote idea wtf the you are talking about tho!

that is certainly my approach

Relax Rory’s going nowhere (til the election)

Strange that a decision has been made to remove the whip from so many colleagues who were ministers so recently. Particularly when we voted repeatedly for a Brexit deal. I can’t think of a historical precedent. But I am not stepping down as an MP.

— Rory Stewart (@RoryStewartUK) September 3, 2019

Lauren on point though

Lauren Gossen, 16. “I don’t know why David Cameron even let everyone decide – he should have just done it himself if he’s just going to quit. He’s a saddo.”

The whole idea that the "threat" of No Deal gives the UK any sort of advantage is so risible but seems impossible to unpick