Another misgiving doing the rounds is that MPs having voted for GE before the 31st, Johnson has the power to switch the date to after that date.
― coup de twat (suzy), Monday, 2 September 2019 14:42 (six years ago)
I don't get how anyone would think the EU would blink. It's so weird. Macron almost got the EU to throw out UK in March. Tories are so weird.
― Frederik B, Monday, 2 September 2019 14:49 (six years ago)
imago you are too free and pure for us. Shine on you crazy diamond etc.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2019 14:49 (six years ago)
I don't really see the Tories winning either, but what are they supposed to do? They need a majority -- they can't do any kind of governing with a majority of 1. They must have an election. Which one do they choose?
1. One before Oct 31st, with exit day unchanged/where they can still talk tough about No Deal, and with the Brexit Party stood down.
2. One before Oct 31st, with exit day changed/where they rule out No Deal and have the Brexit Party standing against them.
3. One after Oct 31st, post-No Deal, with people eating dogs and cats.
If they choose 1, they lose Scotland and LD seats. If they choose 2, they lose all the headbangers in all the seats. If they choose 3 they lose with fireworks. I think they're banking on 1 as their best hope. Labour should deny them that.
xp Suzy: he theoretically does have that ability, but it'd be crazy to do.
― stet, Monday, 2 September 2019 14:53 (six years ago)
Thanks Stet I do get what you are saying. For 2) it Would need good communication to make sure it doesn't look like we are running off.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2019 14:58 (six years ago)
meanwhile in the actual cabinet:
Analysis of leak of blueprint for the 5pm meeting, key points are:1. Johnson gvt thinks that Pt must be deprived of ability to do extension/2ref/revocation2. Only then will they talk. And they believe Commisison willing to look at backstop alternatives3. Draft legal text ready https://t.co/Y66ExGHdNe— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) September 2, 2019
― mark s, Monday, 2 September 2019 14:58 (six years ago)
wtf does 1 even mean? "Johnson thinks executive should have unlimted powerz"?
― stet, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:00 (six years ago)
maybe he's going to seize the mace
― mark s, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:02 (six years ago)
Yeah those Scottish seats are gone and you wouldn’t bet against them beating the LDs in every marginal they go head to head. So they need more Labour seats to get to a majority, but are there that many in the country to make up for the losses?
― gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:07 (six years ago)
What's it like in East Anglia and Mids? I would rather have The Brexit Party squeezing the Tories up there.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:09 (six years ago)
Not with the Lexit vote going south there aren't enough Labour marginals going Tory. (Wasn't there a poll showing a sizable not-totally-racist chunk of that bote was about Sovereignty and other things that recent Tory antics don't go down well with?)
That whole Cabinet thread, fuck. I think this is the unintentionally revealing one:
As just told @KayBurley on @SkyNews we understand the cabinet to be told at 5pm that: - the concern is the EU "are not under any real pressure to engage on solutions until they know the process is not going to be taken over by Parliament."- until then EU say Brits not serious— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) September 2, 2019
It's almost like it's starting to dawn, three years in, that they don't hold all the cards and the EU doesn't have to negotiate with them. But rather than admit their era-defining error, they say "well we would hold all the cards if we were allowed to threaten suicide."
― stet, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:10 (six years ago)
can't wait to see ruthie annihilated at next election
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Monday, 2 September 2019 15:12 (six years ago)
oh she's actually stood down - I thought she'd hold until after next GE. oh well... jackson it is
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Monday, 2 September 2019 15:15 (six years ago)
not been following any of this shit closely recently... evidently
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Monday, 2 September 2019 15:16 (six years ago)
I thought the whole point of being regional party leader without actually holding a seat is that you get to avoid that consequence.
― nashwan, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:17 (six years ago)
yeah almost certainly losing most of those 13 seats in Scotland means toryscum might want a 20 pt lead if they are entertaining ideas of a working majority.
― calzino, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:19 (six years ago)
NEWCabinet ministers to be told draft legal text on Northern Ireland plan has been drawn up and ready to be introduced BUT😱A source says draft legal text is just the existing protocol with the relevant articles on the backstop crossed out - not exactly a worked up plan😱— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) September 2, 2019
― mark s, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:20 (six years ago)
and SUCKS TO BE YOU written at the top in brown crayon
― mark s, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:21 (six years ago)
Draft legal text is just the Ts & Cs copied from just-eat.com
― nashwan, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:22 (six years ago)
Are they going to be eating dogs and cats on day one of post no-deal? If not, it could be a very good time for Boris to call a GE
― anvil, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:22 (six years ago)
actual lols at that tweet from mark s. This is some sub-Baldrick shit now.
― stet, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:24 (six years ago)
So that's why he bought a dog.
― nashwan, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:24 (six years ago)
and yeah, I think the days following No Deal get election-rout bad fast -- look at what a bit of snow does to the country.
― stet, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:25 (six years ago)
"Well no one said it would be easy, bound to be a couple of teething problems, but the main thing is we did it!" "Macron, Zidane, your boys took one hell of a beating", Farage isn't standing hmm
― anvil, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:29 (six years ago)
still unclear what extent the tories are just trolling as the clock ticks down or whether its all stupidity
a lack of exposure to consequences is a hell of a drug
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2019 15:32 (six years ago)
Sorry to link to Spectator but Ivan Rogers mainly otm https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/09/ivan-rogers-the-realities-of-a-no-deal-brexit/
― stet, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:34 (six years ago)
"Please do not waste this time."
NEW: I’ve been sent the transcript of Monday’s closed-door briefing from the UK prime minister’s official spokesperson. With the government in a deep crisis, guess what the country’s top political journalists focused on?This is not a parody.https://t.co/QaIdsOQlcD pic.twitter.com/C7gxlHtnzz— Mark Di Stefano 🤙🏻 (@MarkDiStef) September 2, 2019
― nashwan, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:35 (six years ago)
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/8ba0a6aed0c5608688adca0f9f22d235477b6c0a/0_133_3500_2100/master/3500.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnxVHFeUkAAKVIx.jpg
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 2 September 2019 15:38 (six years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/oCQopgG.jpg
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 2 September 2019 15:39 (six years ago)
boris’ pupper stratagem is paying off nicely
― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 2 September 2019 15:41 (six years ago)
So that's why he bought a dog.― nashwan, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:24 (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― nashwan, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:24 (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
irl lol
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 2 September 2019 15:43 (six years ago)
A source says draft legal text is just the existing protocol with the relevant articles on the backstop crossed out
1. lol2. NI has been without its Assembly for 2.5 years and every month for the last 6 months there has been at least one bomb discovered or exploded there; perhaps our govt would like to take NI a little bit more seriously? just a thought3. oh no, never mind that, there's a cute puppy, never mind people's actual lives. lol Boris, legernd, check out the puppy!
*clenches fists and grimaces at work desk, hopes nobody notices*
― a passing spacecadet, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:58 (six years ago)
If anything its prorogation and fevered election talk that's distracting from Johnson's feel-good pupper gambit
― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:08 (six years ago)
― stet, Monday, September 2, 2019 5:34 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Good piece. Rogers rightfully laments the 'political elite' still not being serious about this, ie. being completely clueless. And it is otm. It just feels so 'Groundhog Day' doesn't it? I'm willing to bet the same piece could more or less be written three years from now.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:08 (six years ago)
we’ll all be dead in three years iirc
― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:18 (six years ago)
You know other things were discussed at the briefing, right? And that discussing one subject doesn’t take time away from discussions of other subjects?— Mikey Smith (@mikeysmith) September 2, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:20 (six years ago)
i love a party with a happy atmosphere
DUP have gone into the Number 10 drinks party too— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) September 2, 2019
― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:28 (six years ago)
Kuenssberg really thinks she's writing a society column from the 1930s doesn't she?
― plax (ico), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:35 (six years ago)
a german society column from the 30s, sure
― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:38 (six years ago)
Boris is making a speech at 6, please tell me what lectern is shown in case my awful connection goes & I can’t load anything but zing
― gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:44 (six years ago)
dreadnought class lectern
― imago, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:45 (six years ago)
"I am on your side...and so is little Lancelot here"
― nashwan, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:47 (six years ago)
says "PRIME MINISTER" on it in Futura Extra Black Italic
― stet, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:47 (six years ago)
Lads
― gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:53 (six years ago)
still raging from last time may brought out the fkn lectern tbrr
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:55 (six years ago)
he’s ready
Here it is pic.twitter.com/iQll8mom0s— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) September 2, 2019
― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:58 (six years ago)
Thank godI have connection now
― gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:59 (six years ago)
BREAKING: @BorisJohnson will say If MPs vote tomorrow for another delay, then Wednesday there will be vote on general election. MPs gone, no 14 days, no legislation on extension. Election on 14 October. Government source: “who does country want to sort it out on 18 Oct at EU?”— Robert Peston (@Peston) September 2, 2019
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 2 September 2019 17:00 (six years ago)
just strong and stabling as the tories always do
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 September 2019 17:05 (six years ago)
actually watching this for once and the analysts prattling away just sound so fucking clueless, so fucking soft and accepting of johnson. is this truly what our media has become
― imago, Monday, 2 September 2019 17:06 (six years ago)