PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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Blair speech: he thinks a general election is a trap because of Corbyn’s dismal numbers, which won’t turn around as they did in 2017.

Also, he seems to be aging incredibly fast, doesn’t he?

coup de twat (suzy), Monday, 2 September 2019 09:59 (six years ago)

I know it's DAG but this is excellent and to say we don't get to this 'dark place' overnight:

Brexit, the Tories, and the Constitution

A thread on how we got here, with actual examples

1.

— David Allen Green (@davidallengreen) September 1, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2019 10:01 (six years ago)

xp
maybe his botox work was done by a ropy plastic surgeon recommended by one of his dictator pals

calzino, Monday, 2 September 2019 10:03 (six years ago)

Labour are 7pts behind with the latest survation poll, that is more dismal for the tories with all the media backing them and negligible new leader bounce

calzino, Monday, 2 September 2019 10:10 (six years ago)

... and they’ve been doing all that stuff and people have been trying to foreground it, but our fourth estate have seemed more interested in the opposition’s “stalinism”

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Monday, 2 September 2019 10:11 (six years ago)

I don't quite see how this works. Sure they can mandate the PM to ask for an extension—but they can't mandate him to get one (or even to ask in a way that makes it very likely he will). "Hey you bunch of banana straighteners, give us an extension so we can waste a bit more time" https://t.co/miO50j2BkN

— Edmund Griffiths (@EdmundGriffiths) September 2, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2019 10:18 (six years ago)

Corbyn speaking now in big speech on news channel, for those of us WFH/having an admin day.

coup de twat (suzy), Monday, 2 September 2019 10:19 (six years ago)

We knew this anyway:

EU Commission: no new developments on "concrete" new UK proposals on the backstop to report.

— Tony Connelly (@tconnellyRTE) September 2, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2019 10:21 (six years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/VFuTHR3.png

mark s, Monday, 2 September 2019 10:49 (six years ago)

HELCH has a new direction I see

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Monday, 2 September 2019 10:51 (six years ago)

xp and an HPV-carrying domestic abuser.

coup de twat (suzy), Monday, 2 September 2019 10:52 (six years ago)

Tidbit from the Guardian liveblog: Apparently the Corbyn-wings favored candidate for next leader is Rebecca Long-Bailey. Anyone care to enlighten a poor Dane as to who that is?

Frederik B, Monday, 2 September 2019 11:21 (six years ago)

don't get this - because that's something he has said, on camera, what? hundreds of times now?

Just grabbed Mr Corbyn at the end of the press conference and he said Labour WILL back a general election under ANY circumstances if Boris Johnson were to call one: “Of course, we are the opposition party, we want a general election” he said... sadly not on camera!

— Kate McCann (@KateEMcCann) September 2, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 2 September 2019 11:24 (six years ago)

Tidbit from the Guardian liveblog: Apparently the Corbyn-wings favored candidate for next leader is Rebecca Long-Bailey. Anyone care to enlighten a poor Dane as to who that is?

Young-ish MP with limited experience but strong working-class / union roots. She has supported Corbyn from the start and is generally seen as a good / relatable communicator.

ShariVari, Monday, 2 September 2019 11:32 (six years ago)

She seems good but it's a reflection of the fact that there's almost nobody else that they'd be looking to throw an MP with a couple of years in Parliament in at the deep end, if required.

There is an old guard with 'baggage', there are new MPs with less baggage (or baggage the press has yet to invent) but there's not a lot in the middle.

ShariVari, Monday, 2 September 2019 11:38 (six years ago)

Who is preferred here? a) Long-Bailey, b) Laura Pidcock, c) someone else?

anvil, Monday, 2 September 2019 11:45 (six years ago)

is that a list of who you fancy most?

Funky Isolations (jed_), Monday, 2 September 2019 11:49 (six years ago)

A lot of the 2015 intakes already have/had shadow cabinet experience, ie Starmer, Butler, Lewis, Hussain, Huq, Debbonaire, etc. A lot of the same intake haven’t been brought in for fairly obvious reasons (Coyle, Phillips, Streeting). Beyond that you have the 2010 intake for anyone younger.

gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 11:55 (six years ago)

so transparent

Boris Johnson's new dog arrives at Downing Street 🐶

The rescue puppy doesn't have a name yet. Any suggestions?https://t.co/NRFgJK92Ay pic.twitter.com/QT6V2i5c47

— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) September 2, 2019

koogs, Monday, 2 September 2019 11:55 (six years ago)

xxp definitely Pidcock

gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 11:55 (six years ago)

Tidbit from the Guardian liveblog: Apparently the Corbyn-wings favored candidate for next leader is Rebecca Long-Bailey. Anyone care to enlighten a poor Dane as to who that is?
Young-ish MP with limited experience but strong working-class / union roots. She has supported Corbyn from the start and is generally seen as a good / relatable communicator.

― ShariVari, Monday, 2 September 2019 12:32 (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Apparently she took over Hazel Blears' constituency - now there's an upgrade for you.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 2 September 2019 11:57 (six years ago)

people's republic of salford, where corbs is trying to woo manchester city councillors today, to which we can only say gl

ogmor, Monday, 2 September 2019 11:59 (six years ago)

Cancel their dinners.

Boris Johnson has called a unexpected meeting of the cabinet today at 5pm, multiple Whitehall sources have confirmed.

nashwan, Monday, 2 September 2019 12:25 (six years ago)

Tidbit from the Guardian liveblog: Apparently the Corbyn-wings favored candidate for next leader is Rebecca Long-Bailey. Anyone care to enlighten a poor Dane as to who that is?

― Frederik B, Monday, 2 September 2019 bookmarkflaglink

She's left wing Fred but take consolation in the fact that she's young and might be more of an imperialist so she could still nuke Russia.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2019 12:27 (six years ago)

Speculation is mounting that Boris Johnson could call a snap general election if backbench rebels succeed in passing a bill to delay Brexit, with a Downing Street source saying the issue would be treated as “an expression of confidence” in the government.

Johnson’s cabinet ministers are being summoned for an emergency cabinet meeting on Monday afternoon, before the prime minister is to address Conservative MPs at a No 10 drinks reception.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2019 12:54 (six years ago)

"But you don't understand - Snap Election is the name of my (rescue) dog!"

who do you think you are kidding mr cummings (Matt #2), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:02 (six years ago)

hurrrahhh

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:02 (six years ago)

don't get this - because that's something he has said, on camera, what? hundreds of times now?

The context here being would it make more sense to abstain if Boris has made it clear that he's going to call an election in early November?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:11 (six years ago)

Laura Smith is another very left wing young Labour MP

In September 2018 Smith called for a general strike to "topple" Theresa May's Conservative government. Deputy Labour Leader, Tom Watson, quickly distanced the Labour Party from Smith saying her comments were "not particularly helpful". Shadow business secretary Rebecca Long-Bailey added: "Just to make it perfectly clear a general strike is not Labour Party policy."


Her seat is ultra marginal so she might not get back in next time, but she’s very left & not from a political background (she was a teacher who campaigned against cuts).

gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:11 (six years ago)

Also keys to the city for Matt #2

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:11 (six years ago)

xp opposition aren’t going to abstain, the point of being opposition is to try to get into government when you can and saying “we’re abstaining” is just like saying “oh fuck don’t take all our seats Boris nooooo”

gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:13 (six years ago)

Lol dealwithit.gif

The Financial Times is right:

“The Labour leadership is determined to shift power away from bosses and landlords and to workers and tenants.” pic.twitter.com/781CAuOCqw

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) September 2, 2019

gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:14 (six years ago)

xp It's also like saying "we don't trust you as far as we can throw you and you're up to something" Viz:

NEW: Remainer source says they expect PM to put down a dissolution motion (calling an election) with what appears to be a “reasonable” polling date before 31 Oct, trick MPs into voting for it, then use prerogative proclamation power to move polling day to after 31s Oct.

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) September 2, 2019

Who will spot this dastardly ruse in time?

stet, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:15 (six years ago)

xp

GO JEZZA LET'S HANG THE CUNTS

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:18 (six years ago)

I’m guessing they would go to the EU for an extension if that was their intention - an election is one of the things the EU would grant an extension for.

gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:18 (six years ago)

xp calzinoposting

gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:18 (six years ago)

me and calz are generally of one mind

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:19 (six years ago)

Although it'll probably come down to Tory rebels again, especially if they try this wheeze:

As a public service, here's the draft text if the bill Theresa May's team were thinking of introducing to override the FTPA in 2017, and which could be wheeled out again if certainty about an election date was required. pic.twitter.com/Vch82WMKGK

— Philip Cowley (@philipjcowley) September 2, 2019

(If No Deal legislation is done Tuesday/Wednesday it won't matter by that point anyway, though)

xp But isn't that supposed to be politically impossible, gyac? Johnson is married to Oct 31st — if he changes it that shows he's scared of No Deal and the Brexit Party stand against him

stet, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:20 (six years ago)

my dad's dad, who was generally a quiet, apolitical bloke as i recall, once said that the biggest mistake Wilson made was not shooting half the Tories in 1964 pour discourager les autres

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:21 (six years ago)

Omg this thread

The Lib Dem candidate for Uxbridge is utterly batshit https://t.co/3QEvQRisoe

— Sam ✌️ (@samisam147) September 1, 2019

gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:21 (six years ago)

xxp nothing’s impossible when you lie like you breathe

gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:22 (six years ago)

can't believe there's a crazy entitled FBPEeep Lib Dem candidate

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:24 (six years ago)

don't mind the FT being the FT but that fuckin piece was imported into thr irish times today without any kind of critical addition for our audience which is shitty stuff

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:28 (six years ago)

Didn’t our IT close or cut a load of jobs or something?

Lbr, 99% of IT readers are West brits anyway

gyac, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:30 (six years ago)

xp opposition aren’t going to abstain, the point of being opposition is to try to get into government when you can and saying “we’re abstaining” is just like saying “oh fuck don’t take all our seats Boris nooooo”

I'm not sure here if you're presenting a view or whether you're saying you believe this - do you reckon the gold ring of "getting into power just after a no-deal Brexit" is still worth the type of hardmanning you're describing, like?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:31 (six years ago)

i possibly expect too much from our paper of record and god knows it hasnt merited that since long before kennedy departed

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:32 (six years ago)

xxp nothing’s impossible when you lie like you breathe

Yeah but they still need a pretext of some kind. Feels like the intended plan here is:

1. Lose the vote that stops No Deal.
2. Kick out the rebels. Lol Hammond.
3. Say that "our great deal we were this close to sealing is now impossible as parliament removed the threat of No Deal that was terrifying the EU, so we need a new parliament -- election time."

That's the only route that keeps the Brexit Party stood down (because the Tory campaign will say they need a majority to put No Deal back on the table).

stet, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:35 (six years ago)

yes agree but at that point the timetable of an election makes No Deal not a fictive bargaining chip but an actual policy

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:37 (six years ago)

Deselecting potentially double-figures MPs andwinning a majority is it.

nashwan, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:53 (six years ago)

Are any of the Tory mps who might lose the whip more popular than a plausible replacement candidate in their constituency? I.e. are the tories jeopardising those seats?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:53 (six years ago)


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