gosh i hope they'll be okay
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:10 (four years ago) link
oh noes, will no-one think of the people who destroyed the economy in 2008 without any direct legal repercussions
― Gareth Jones, Godzilla’s assistant (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:19 (four years ago) link
re: the centrist brainworms upthread. lately that with the "they're all the same, politicians" clichés having become unsustainable and the collapse of TINA discourses, its weirdly even more depressing to think of the hordes of people actively choosing against rescuing the NHS, providing proper social welfare etc. One thing that 'centrism' did was to mask the viciousness of people everywhere by allowing the most craven motives to be repackaged by used care salesmen into balanced and realistic compromises. Now that you can make a clearcut choice between the "kill everyone now" and "let's work together" parties its really disturbing to see how many people can unashamedly get behind the former. Its the only thing that sortof makes me nostalgic for the old days and it makes me understand why its a warm blanket to so many, especially those who have many other means of cosseting themselves from the world.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:23 (four years ago) link
one senior Labour figure
what "senior" labour figure do we think this is
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:36 (four years ago) link
Omg that Boris impression owns
― gyac, Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:36 (four years ago) link
In her book on GDP, Diane Coyle has a fascinating section on the impact of potentially overestimating the contribution of financial services to the economy. If you get the chance it’s worth reading the chapter “Value Added, Value Subtracted” in its entirety: The FISIM statistical mirage affects all countries’ GDP. One study of the United States concludes: “Making conservative assumptions, we show that the current official method overestimates the service output of the commercial banking industry by at least 21% (amounting to $ 116.8 billion in 2007: Q4 for example) and GDP by 0.3% ($ 52.9 billion in 2007: Q4 for example) between 1997 and 2007.” For the Eurozone, adjusting for banks’ risk-taking would reduce the measured output of the financial sector by 25–40 percent. If the same factor were applied in the United Kingdom, the measured contribution of the financial sector would have been 6–7.5 percent of GDP in 2008, rather than 9 percent. These figures are staggering: the size of the financial sector in recent years has been overstated by at least one-fifth, maybe even by as much as one-half. Why does it matter that the contribution of the financial services industry to GDP is overstated? The answer is that political leaders shape economic policy around key sectors. During the financial crisis, the industry’s lobbying has had a substantial impact on political decisions about regulatory reform, not just because investment banks make donations to political parties, but also because politicians genuinely believe the industry to be fundamentally important to jobs and economic growth. “Our economy needs the industry,” wrote Alastair Darling, the U.K. chancellor of the exchequer, in his memoir of the crisis, despite having experienced the height of the crisis when the industry had, on the contrary, nearly torpedoed the economy.There is a genuine problem of methodology here, rather than the finance sector being a complete leach - how do you relate the process of generating additional money by the management of risk to productivity, and what *is* productivity anyway - but it won’t surprise anyone that methodologies heavily favour the financial sector. there is a question of incentives here as well - that relation of risk to value, which is foundational to finance and which is baked into GDP figures, means their is an incentive to loosen the regulation surrounding risk management in order to generate “value”.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:40 (four years ago) link
oh that last para is also from the book - didn’t mean to paste.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:41 (four years ago) link
think of all the "talent" the UK will lose to capital flight during a Corbyn/McD government though. When it happened in the 70's we all died.
― calzino, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:20 (four years ago) link
https://twitter.com/uncoolfellazone/status/1168065127288995840/photo/3
― mark s, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:38 (four years ago) link
ugh and now i can't find the original, it was very funny though (in a ffs kind of a way)
― mark s, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:39 (four years ago) link
instead of going to the protests @joswinson was at a retreat for "new age corporate strategy" pic.twitter.com/0dZukvvfrX— eustachy r daewo (@uncoolfellazone) September 1, 2019
this?
― calzino, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:42 (four years ago) link
Swinson is priceless... well not to big fracking of course. She'll be gone by xmas.
― calzino, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:43 (four years ago) link
Lol that’s the Peter Walker hoaxer, looks like he used a fake byline this time
― gyac, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link
Now that you can make a clearcut choice between the "kill everyone now" and "let's work together" parties its really disturbing to see how many people can unashamedly get behind the former.p
I don't think they see it through that lens. The partner of Cristian Eriksen lookalike said about Bernie/Healthcare "Yes thats all well and good but he voted for himself!!! how can I support someone like that?"
I don't think they are getting behind "kill everyone now", I think its more about character, someone that they could have round for dinner. Which then comes round to branding and packaging, maybe they are sort of reachable
― anvil, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link
yes that (tho not via him, i think the tweeter i got it from deleted)
anyway "soul rowing" is a terrific find, fictional or otherwise
― mark s, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:48 (four years ago) link
xxp
all the hoax news stories on pols are the only ones that are true!
― calzino, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link
I have a suspicion that a lot of people younger and cleverer than me are leaving because of Brexit but of course nobody cares when it's a Tory policy that does it
(this is purely based on anecdotal evidence, I have no idea whether there is actually a national trend)
― a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:54 (four years ago) link
he should have used walker's byline again for maximum hilarity
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:56 (four years ago) link
Number of British people living in European cities has skyrocketed but there are so many other factors like remote working that its not straightforward to say how much is due to Brexit
― anvil, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:57 (four years ago) link
albeit belvin gonn-dolier is peak
These are all real Telegraph columnists pic.twitter.com/Re4eyvsIdl— Mr Richard Miller (@MrRichardMiller) March 29, 2019
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:57 (four years ago) link
lol @ "chef anthony worral thompson"
― plax (ico), Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link
jesus i had to check i couldn't believe they were real
― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link
sophia money-coutts far too on the nose
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Sunday, 1 September 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link
apparently people on Twitter were mean about her name
― Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 September 2019 10:02 (four years ago) link
🎮 Switch on PS4 ↳💿 Load Game ↳📀 Being A UK Political Party ↳🕹 Select Mode ↳✅ Conservative (Easy) ↳🛑 Labour (Difficult) https://t.co/Vy8K4EcMZe— Matt Zarb-Cousin (@mattzarb) September 1, 2019
― gyac, Sunday, 1 September 2019 10:39 (four years ago) link
Remainer/moaner MPs would get a lot more interest from the peasantry were they to make snarky comments about new public enemy #1 Meghan M, just saying.
JC should do that Johnson impression at PMQs, should Parliament ever sit again
― michael schenker group is no laughing matter (Matt #2), Sunday, 1 September 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link
He’s done that impression a few times; it’s pretty funny.
― coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 1 September 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link
What does "he voted for himself" mean?
― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Sunday, 1 September 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
Oh here we go
https://www.gov.uk/get-ready-brexit-check
― michael schenker group is no laughing matter (Matt #2), Sunday, 1 September 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link
If they build it, it will happen
― michael schenker group is no laughing matter (Matt #2), Sunday, 1 September 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link
?? Maybe something like, 'No true gentleman would be so crass as to vote for himself, so he's a bounder' ??
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 1 September 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link
Old and busted: BogdanorOld and beatdown: http://ohrh.law.ox.ac.uk/prorogation-constitutional-principle-and-law-fact-and-causation/
― stet, Sunday, 1 September 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link
I would like to buy a pint for the guy on Twitter who just dubbed Dominic Cummings: QUENTIN TARANCHEMO.
― coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 1 September 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
to clarify, how would international law affect beheading the queen? I haven't gone full FBPE red pill but surely the ECJ would intervene (If we weren't leaving). Basically what are the legislative routes to 1649 redux? Out of interest.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 1 September 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link
also:
for every head chopped off, the Hydra would regrow two heads.[5]
― mark s, Sunday, 1 September 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link
xp lol @ this question, just asked so casually.
― gyac, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
Killing the many heads of the hydra, liquidating the rentiers - you love to dream about it!
― calzino, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link
Confirmed: No10 has decided Philip Hammond, David Gauke, Dominic Grieve and co will have the Conservative whip withdrawn if they do not vote with the government on Tuesday https://t.co/oDlRoBfG0m— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) September 1, 2019
And me too I hope— Rory Stewart (@RoryStewartUK) September 1, 2019
― gyac, Sunday, 1 September 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link
Oh *lengthy list of names* do go
― nashwan, Sunday, 1 September 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link
well this seems bad!
https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-crisis-govt-analysis-suggests-chaos-at-dover-in-event-of-no-deal-departure-11800263
― Simon H., Sunday, 1 September 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDYgMQLWsAol06-?format=jpg&name=large
these hoax pieces do reveal more about the true essence of Swinson than the real ones.
― calzino, Monday, 2 September 2019 09:29 (four years ago) link
You gotta love how the Tories are deselecting these useless people.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link
how many of these serial bottlers are actually going to rebel?
― calzino, Monday, 2 September 2019 09:49 (four years ago) link
http://infantv.com.br/infantv/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Aquaphibians.jpg
― mark s, Monday, 2 September 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link
Blair speech: he thinks a general election is a trap because of Corbyn’s dismal numbers, which won’t turn around as they did in 2017.
Also, he seems to be aging incredibly fast, doesn’t he?
― coup de twat (suzy), Monday, 2 September 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link
I know it's DAG but this is excellent and to say we don't get to this 'dark place' overnight:
Brexit, the Tories, and the ConstitutionA thread on how we got here, with actual examples1.— David Allen Green (@davidallengreen) September 1, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link
xpmaybe his botox work was done by a ropy plastic surgeon recommended by one of his dictator pals
― calzino, Monday, 2 September 2019 10:03 (four years ago) link
Labour are 7pts behind with the latest survation poll, that is more dismal for the tories with all the media backing them and negligible new leader bounce
― calzino, Monday, 2 September 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link
... and they’ve been doing all that stuff and people have been trying to foreground it, but our fourth estate have seemed more interested in the opposition’s “stalinism”
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Monday, 2 September 2019 10:11 (four years ago) link
I don't quite see how this works. Sure they can mandate the PM to ask for an extension—but they can't mandate him to get one (or even to ask in a way that makes it very likely he will). "Hey you bunch of banana straighteners, give us an extension so we can waste a bit more time" https://t.co/miO50j2BkN— Edmund Griffiths (@EdmundGriffiths) September 2, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 September 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link