PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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wait that pret map says there isn't one in shrewsbury, but there is, i call bullshit

mark s, Saturday, 31 August 2019 15:53 (six years ago)

It's old perhaps? Scottish map would be interesting - St Andrews has one, and it's kind of Lib Demmy here.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 31 August 2019 15:57 (six years ago)

fuck me even i wouldn't compare this shower to Charles I, that guy knew how to pâté la bourgeoisie

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 15:58 (six years ago)

omg i'm starving.

plax (ico), Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:04 (six years ago)

the only respectable pret sandwich is ham butter and cornichons fuiud btw

pret is horrible tho, the thing making me hungry is the talk of pate i want to point out

plax (ico), Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:05 (six years ago)

the only respectable pret sandwich is ham butter and cornichons fuiud btw

cosine

pret is horrible tho

no

mark s, Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:08 (six years ago)

People are literally marching on Buckingham Palace. Honestly incredible pic.twitter.com/APQRBfrb9s

— William Kedjanyi (@KeejayOV2) August 31, 2019

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:12 (six years ago)

I used to go to pret for a coronation chicken sandwich every time I was in London in the late 90s, now prets are everywhere and they don't do anything as plebian as a coronation chicken sandwich, so I don't go.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:15 (six years ago)

another reason to march on the palace

mark s, Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:16 (six years ago)

plax otm on both counts

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:17 (six years ago)

xp liz is indirectly responsible for the situation, yes

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:18 (six years ago)

Never been to a pret.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:19 (six years ago)

a Mekons classic

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:20 (six years ago)

if they don't do kebabs and pizzas and mind the bad publicity of losing a few FSA hygiene stars then they ain't happening in Dewsbury any time soon!

calzino, Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:31 (six years ago)

i am always otm about everything

plax (ico), Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:45 (six years ago)

To all protesting in London today:

1) thank you

2) please, PLEASE do NOT go near Buckingham Palace. The Queen is as much of a victim of Johnson’s baloney as we all are. She had no choice.

To demonstrate there is wrong and will anger many.

This is on Johnson & Cummings alone

— Buck Frexit! 🇪🇺🔶 #StoptheCoup #REMAIN🎪 (@Beany_1) August 31, 2019

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:46 (six years ago)

counterpoint: stfu bootlicker

lowkey goatsed on the styx (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:48 (six years ago)

good old beany 1

mark s, Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:49 (six years ago)

best pret is veggie new yorker on rye fuiud

there are 71 prêts in glasgow - probably explains why it is so remainy

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:03 (six years ago)

These Republican FBPE posts are like a window back to 1648

Joe Proroguin' (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:05 (six years ago)

stoya come to buck house, the revolution is happening

mark s, Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:13 (six years ago)

in my experience

with this i can't

plax (ico), Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:16 (six years ago)

i mean

best pret is veggie new yorker on rye fuiud

(c+p error)

plax (ico), Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:17 (six years ago)

but also omg who wants a refrigerated sandwich? sandwiches should be fried in chest pains

plax (ico), Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:18 (six years ago)

xxp irl lol

gyac, Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:28 (six years ago)

sorry that was to mark!

I just checked his tl and he’s definitely thought about it

gyac, Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:30 (six years ago)

yes he has a chest-mounted camera pointed at his face, it's like lenin in the sealed train

mark s, Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:33 (six years ago)

did mason ever get to fuck stoya or

Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:29 (six years ago)

settled for fucking his rep instead

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:33 (six years ago)

shame on remainers for cancelling harry's wank https://t.co/jaNXta8qsS

— eustachy r daewo (@uncoolfellazone) August 31, 2019

calzino, Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:44 (six years ago)

harold coleold is only like 20 years old. conservatism kills/ages

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:49 (six years ago)

That’s not the first wank Harry’s had cancelled because of something the PM did...

coup de twat (suzy), Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:49 (six years ago)

Jeremy Corbyn in Glasgow doing an impression of Boris Johnson pic.twitter.com/S3sglQa0So

— Conor Riordan (@conorrPA) August 31, 2019

Simon H., Saturday, 31 August 2019 21:42 (six years ago)

boris absolutely destroyed

Gareth Jones, Godzilla’s assistant (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 31 August 2019 21:48 (six years ago)

*** Breaking News*** Labour drawing up plans to offer all pensioners state-funded care in their homes - If this is to be a policy announcement, it will be very popular. This will be a vote winner for sure.https://t.co/r2rrtRxiEn

— Labours Black PLP (@LaboursBlackPLP) August 31, 2019

this sounds promising and will be popular, especially when ppl start noticing when boris has run out of one-off election bribe money, the long term project is likely much harder austerity.

calzino, Sunday, 1 September 2019 07:43 (six years ago)

the FT are running a series on Corbynomics. The first piece is pretty even handed, does contain some cracking quotes tho:

“I would be worried about Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell and Seumas Milne, they don’t give a fuck about the City of London,” says one senior Labour figure. “I think a lot of money would be shifted out on day one. There are a lot of people who are worried about the future financial security of the City.”

:’(

Fizzles, Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:09 (six years ago)

gosh i hope they'll be okay

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:10 (six years ago)

oh noes, will no-one think of the people who destroyed the economy in 2008 without any direct legal repercussions

Gareth Jones, Godzilla’s assistant (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:19 (six years ago)

re: the centrist brainworms upthread. lately that with the "they're all the same, politicians" clichés having become unsustainable and the collapse of TINA discourses, its weirdly even more depressing to think of the hordes of people actively choosing against rescuing the NHS, providing proper social welfare etc. One thing that 'centrism' did was to mask the viciousness of people everywhere by allowing the most craven motives to be repackaged by used care salesmen into balanced and realistic compromises. Now that you can make a clearcut choice between the "kill everyone now" and "let's work together" parties its really disturbing to see how many people can unashamedly get behind the former. Its the only thing that sortof makes me nostalgic for the old days and it makes me understand why its a warm blanket to so many, especially those who have many other means of cosseting themselves from the world.

plax (ico), Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:23 (six years ago)

one senior Labour figure

what "senior" labour figure do we think this is

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:36 (six years ago)

Omg that Boris impression owns

gyac, Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:36 (six years ago)

In her book on GDP, Diane Coyle has a fascinating section on the impact of potentially overestimating the contribution of financial services to the economy. If you get the chance it’s worth reading the chapter “Value Added, Value Subtracted” in its entirety:

The FISIM statistical mirage affects all countries’ GDP. One study of the United States concludes: “Making conservative assumptions, we show that the current official method overestimates the service output of the commercial banking industry by at least 21% (amounting to $ 116.8 billion in 2007: Q4 for example) and GDP by 0.3% ($ 52.9 billion in 2007: Q4 for example) between 1997 and 2007.” For the Eurozone, adjusting for banks’ risk-taking would reduce the measured output of the financial sector by 25–40 percent. If the same factor were applied in the United Kingdom, the measured contribution of the financial sector would have been 6–7.5 percent of GDP in 2008, rather than 9 percent. These figures are staggering: the size of the financial sector in recent years has been overstated by at least one-fifth, maybe even by as much as one-half. Why does it matter that the contribution of the financial services industry to GDP is overstated? The answer is that political leaders shape economic policy around key sectors. During the financial crisis, the industry’s lobbying has had a substantial impact on political decisions about regulatory reform, not just because investment banks make donations to political parties, but also because politicians genuinely believe the industry to be fundamentally important to jobs and economic growth. “Our economy needs the industry,” wrote Alastair Darling, the U.K. chancellor of the exchequer, in his memoir of the crisis, despite having experienced the height of the crisis when the industry had, on the contrary, nearly torpedoed the economy.

There is a genuine problem of methodology here, rather than the finance sector being a complete leach - how do you relate the process of generating additional money by the management of risk to productivity, and what *is* productivity anyway - but it won’t surprise anyone that methodologies heavily favour the financial sector.

there is a question of incentives here as well - that relation of risk to value, which is foundational to finance and which is baked into GDP figures, means their is an incentive to loosen the regulation surrounding risk management in order to generate “value”.

oh noes, will no-one think of the people who destroyed the economy in 2008 without any direct legal repercussions


Relatively few financial services involve direct fees or commissions. For the most part, banks do not generally sell services for a fee. A large proportion of their profits comes instead from the gap between the interest rates at which they can borrow (or pay depositors) and lend, or from trading activity. As the OECD GDP statistics manual puts it: “Measurement using the general formula [for constructing GDP] would result in their value added being very small, if not negative; in other words, their intermediate consumption would be greater than their sales!” 9 Unable to imagine when this was written that banking could be subtracting value from the economy, statisticians sought to find a way of measuring these earnings from financial intermediation. So for many years the convention was to count financial services as the negative output of an imaginary segment of the economy.

Fizzles, Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:40 (six years ago)

oh that last para is also from the book - didn’t mean to paste.

Fizzles, Sunday, 1 September 2019 08:41 (six years ago)

think of all the "talent" the UK will lose to capital flight during a Corbyn/McD government though. When it happened in the 70's we all died.

calzino, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:20 (six years ago)

https://twitter.com/uncoolfellazone/status/1168065127288995840/photo/3

mark s, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:38 (six years ago)

ugh and now i can't find the original, it was very funny though (in a ffs kind of a way)

mark s, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:39 (six years ago)

instead of going to the protests @joswinson was at a retreat for "new age corporate strategy" pic.twitter.com/0dZukvvfrX

— eustachy r daewo (@uncoolfellazone) September 1, 2019

this?

calzino, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:42 (six years ago)

Swinson is priceless... well not to big fracking of course. She'll be gone by xmas.

calzino, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:43 (six years ago)

Lol that’s the Peter Walker hoaxer, looks like he used a fake byline this time

gyac, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:46 (six years ago)

Now that you can make a clearcut choice between the "kill everyone now" and "let's work together" parties its really disturbing to see how many people can unashamedly get behind the former.p

I don't think they see it through that lens. The partner of Cristian Eriksen lookalike said about Bernie/Healthcare "Yes thats all well and good but he voted for himself!!! how can I support someone like that?"

I don't think they are getting behind "kill everyone now", I think its more about character, someone that they could have round for dinner. Which then comes round to branding and packaging, maybe they are sort of reachable

anvil, Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:47 (six years ago)


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