I shouldn't count Fathom out just yet, as I've just seen an ad for a TCM-sponsored presentation of Alien happening in October (although that may have been OK'd prior to the latest upheavals).
The thread by the Revue programmer up there specifies that tonight is the last time they will be able to play Alien, because it was booked before this week.
(I do suspect the combo of Fathom and TCM will have more swing with the new Disney bookers than one guy in Toronto with 1,800 twitter followers, but it still might not be much swing.)
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link
Our local Landmark theatre does regular weekend midnight screenings programmed like that Seattle house (plus The Room once a month and RHPS w/a shadow cast once every 2-3 weeks). I was just checking their schedule, which somewhat surprisingly was loaded with Fox stuff for the past few weeks and the next couple.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link
Some time back, I went to a midnight showing of Repo Man, which got started late. Those of us waiting got into a spirited discussion w/the theatre bartender, who mentioned that The Room and RHPS screenings, plus ringers like The Big Lebowski and Hitchcock/Kubrick revivals pretty much underwrote everything else.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link
Same for the main London rep - a lot of gimmicky stuff like a Studio Ghibli all-nighter, a 1999 Teen Movie all-nighter, Mean Girl quote-along, and "The Room w/ Tommy Wiseau Live on Stage" (7 times over 5 days, but it seems like it happens every month)
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:46 (four years ago) link
sic’s quoted post is heartbreaking because the films smaller theaters that try for mostly indie fair but aren’t exclusive coast on major releases and would make bank on a Tarantino pic and they’re getting fucked by the on-major, won’t boost smaller theater status the fully international/repertory local theater is closing and I feel like the other is going to be british/french/a24 pics all the time now
― untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 29 August 2019 01:00 (four years ago) link
yeah there's a lot of weird theater booking bs like that that hurts smaller theaters (smaller being any non-chain theater, but even the Alamos are included in this)
― Nhex, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
I'm wondering how this will end up hitting Alamo. They do big business here both with new features and older ones.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 30 August 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link
I suspect they're the ones most capable of weathering things out. I'm just four blocks away from the SF one but there's clearly enough of a base for them to do pretty reasonable/random one-offs. (That said A24 almost seems like their house label at this point.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 August 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link
Alamo should be fine. They can manage the studio demands/requirements, and losing access to Fox/Disney rep titles isn't as big a loss (if they lose access at all?.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link
i would guess that "experience" theaters are best equipped to manage fuckups with film access; most people attending dinner theater aren't super picky about the play they're seeing
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 30 August 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
Didn't know anything about this until the Revue, a rep theatre I go to frequently, posted this on their bulletin board yesterday:
http://www.thestar.com/business/2019/08/28/indie-cinema-says-disney-cutting-off-access-to-20th-century-fox-film-archives.html
When they played a trailer for an upcoming screening of Phantom of the Paradise, they prefaced it with "Final screening ever."
I won't be in Toronto much longer, but the place where I'm headed has one rep theatre that'll have the same issues. Too bad. (Going to look into which of my favourite films are 20th Century Fox.)
― clemenza, Friday, 30 August 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link
Alamo's special for me, i mostly go see reps, several times a week. for the past few years my local location has been amazing, and the manager just quit due to some corporate attitude changes regarding rep programming. Sadly it sounds like they're going to become less a more profit-motivated, less unique chain
Whenever we couldn't get a screening because Disney owned it was bad enough, it's gonna be so much worse now
― Nhex, Friday, 30 August 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link
Treating every single vintage Fox title like a Disney Cash cow shouldn't/isn't be smart business, and the only reason repercussions won't be felt is company is insulted enough, money-wise, thanks to all the new cash cows they've recently acquired to exploit.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link
Yeah I mean...I don't really understand the angle, long-term. Even if you load Disney+ with every Fox title ever released, you're still only getting $6.99 per month per household.
― McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 August 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link
They get to kill cinema
― YouGov to see it (wins), Friday, 30 August 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
I think it boils down to them thinking any screen not showing a new Disney movie is bad. Plus if they put theaters out of business that wouldn't show Disney movies anyway, more the better
― rob, Friday, 30 August 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
also: evil
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 30 August 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kzH1iaKVsBM/hqdefault.jpg
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link
I assume that Disney's strategy will be to shunt everything that is not their idea of family-friendly over to Hulu, on the assumption that viewers will subscribe to a pricier package. But my initial response to Disney's dog-in-the-mangerishness is to go in even further on p|r@(y.
― Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Friday, 30 August 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
Noticed some heavy hitters gone from Netflix today, notably Mulan. :-(
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 1 September 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link
counterpoint: streaming contracts are bad enough already, it would be catastrophic if Netflix were able to show things for 1000 years without paying for them again
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 1 September 2019 10:35 (four years ago) link
Is this the first movie to be newly branded as “Disney” even though it was a Fox movie? https://t.co/aOa7NCVu7m— Keith Calder except spooky because it's October (@keithcalder) October 14, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/7fBg8dprtq— Peter LabuzAAAHH! (@labuzamovies) October 14, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link
the disney and the hound (1981)
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link
lol bg
― mh, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link
Disney's The Swamp Disneyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADesK3Wa_D0
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
I find it odd that they add the floating brand name to all their kid-friendly movies. It used to be Walt Disney's or Walt Disney (Pictures) Presents, now it's just Disney. can't wait for Disney Disney's The Kid.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link
woah snap, Shipwrecked is on there - might be a deal-maker for yours truly
― weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
"How dare Coppola say mean things about Marvel movies when he made [random bad movie]" is a weak sneer. Every filmmaker with a real body of work makes some bad movies. Stop whining, nobody's gonna take your precious two-and-a-half-star superhero films away.— Mark Harris (@MarkHarrisNYC) October 20, 2019
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 21 October 2019 03:43 (four years ago) link
The problem with Coppola's career go a bit beyond 'made some bad movies', though. Some of the blame for why directors have less freedom these days has to go to the seventies directors and how they handled the trust they were given.
― Frederik B, Monday, 21 October 2019 09:19 (four years ago) link
I'm fine with Scorsese being discussed here, as soon as he makes a film set this millennium.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 21 October 2019 09:28 (four years ago) link
how'd you miss all the flip phones in the depahhhhted? also alec baldwin woo-hooing the patriot act.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, 21 October 2019 09:34 (four years ago) link
A compromise is possible
figured it out.... marvel fans can call their movies “cimena”• it’s not “cinema” so martin will be happy • still pretty close to “cinema”• you sound like a widdle baby when you say it, which you are— jos (@josiahhughes) October 21, 2019
― YouGov to see it (wins), Monday, 21 October 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link
It’s just very funny how insecure nerds are in their complete cultural supremacy. Like calm down, Disney will be fine, they will keep shitting these things out forever whether or not acclaimed directors say they’re good when asked by interviewers. Unfortunately.
― YouGov to see it (wins), Monday, 21 October 2019 10:04 (four years ago) link
these same directors loved the B-movie dross of their own childhood (as do I!), it definitely stinks of "old man yelling at cloud" shenanigans
― Nhex, Monday, 21 October 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link
There is much to love in ye olde B Movie dross that doesn't apply to the machine-tooled fan servicey precision of your modern comicbook movies
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 October 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link
yeah, like humanity
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 October 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link
this millennium is boring
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 October 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link
yeah I think I meant to use "sterility" rather than "precision"
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 October 2019 13:05 (four years ago) link
Dr Morbius will today be played by Mel Brooks.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 21 October 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link
The Superhero movies aren't B-movies by any definition of the term. Also, I hate everyone on every side of this debate. The mega-directors of Hollywood who despair because two old idiots don't like what they do, and the two old idiots who wants to define what is cinema and what is not.
― Frederik B, Monday, 21 October 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link
i'm not sure if giving your opinion when your asked a question about something is the same as wanting to gatekeep cinema
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 October 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link
The real villains here are the idiot interviewers who keep thinking the most interesting thing you can ask a grandee of American cinema is “no for real though what about avenger 4”
― YouGov to see it (wins), Monday, 21 October 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), 21. oktober 2019 15:15 (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
When the opinion is 'that is not cinema!' then I don't see the confusion?
― Frederik B, Monday, 21 October 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link
The implication of that is "to me", I'm pretty sure he's not going to tell aficionados of the genre that they can't use the word
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 October 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link
Oh, come on
― Frederik B, Monday, 21 October 2019 13:41 (four years ago) link
Well if you want a moratorium on ridiculous generalising opinions
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 October 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link
I do! Of course I do! They're bad.
― Frederik B, Monday, 21 October 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link
and the two old idiots who wants to define what is cinema and what is not
Scorsese is not trying to police anyone's taste. As for being an idiot...
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 October 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link
the whole kerfluffle reminds me of when I referred to the first Iron Man movie, shortly after release, as "kind of shitty" cultural entertainment to an ex's friend and I had to backtrack when it was clear I hurt his feelings
but really, it's fine to enjoy all kinds of movies and books, whatever, and not everything needs to make you question your norms or inspire more deliberate thought. I tried to explain that I'd probably be watching all the comic book movies myself, but as far as media consumption goes, it's not going to shake up your outlook on life or leave you pondering the message of the plot.
the inability of people to understand a couple of guys can share a negative take on their overproduced fairy tale movie adventures and it doesn't mean it's to be evaluated as an objective truth is something that's lost on people and it's frankly mystifying
― mh, Monday, 21 October 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link