PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

announce murdo fraser to end of season

or the one guy on the vox pop who was like "I think it's really bad that Johnson can just stop parliament because then like the next time and if the Labours get in what if they say 'well you did it so so will we we' and then they stop it so they can make nuclear disarmament or something?"

not even joking

announce Murdo MacLeod to end of season

haha ruthie

I’m holding fire until Bogdanor weighs in on whether a bad person made the queen do a Brexit.

The state of political education in this country is shocking, though, which you’d imagine is by design rather than accident.

as well as being byzantine and unwritten, the rules change and the meanings of the rules change!

this is what politics is, and the active space of politics is how much change can be made and how much will be tolerated (this also is why the infestation of QCs and law-explainer guys has been the opposite of helpful: none of them really grasp politics at all, including when they themselves are being highly political)

The Dáil was repeatedly prorogued during the second civil war and anti-Treaty people argued that both the Third Dáil and everything that followed were illegitimate as a result (iirc)?

or the one guy on the vox pop who was like "I think it's really bad that Johnson can just stop parliament because then like the next time and if the Labours get in what if they say 'well you did it so so will we we' and then they stop it so they can make nuclear disarmament or something?"

not even joking

The state of political education in this country is shocking, though, which you’d imagine is by design rather than accident.

as well as being byzantine and unwritten, the rules change and the meanings of the rules change!

yes, sure. this is another example of the whole Brexit fiasco as a potential catalyst of some kind of change in the political fabric. not necessarily for the better, obv, but there's something hugely entertaining about watching all this moth-eaten stage scenery getting dragged into the public eye

brain norms vs brain worms, who will win

Johnson not worrying about giving tools to his political enemies as they will all be disappeared during the next government

gormless br(it)ain

Wait, idk why I said NS when that’s first year civics? Anyway.

The Queen is a traitor. #StopTheCoup pic.twitter.com/fGZPwmYTIc

— twitch.tv/Limmy (@DaftLimmy) August 28, 2019

sha's turned tha brains aginst us

i feel like there's gotta be some FBPE/CBE riff to be worked but i just can't be arsed tbh

might bike over to Parliament Square now - still no umbrella tho

just heard someone referred to as "the former black rod" explaining that Liz would only be politically compromised if someone requested her to annul the proroguing of parliament.

xp there were people starting to move that way when I passed a while ago but they didn’t look to be assembling on parliament sq itself (it was roped off)? Plenty of coppers around.

Might organise an online petition to boycott the Downton Abbey movie

i feel like there's gotta be some FBPE/CBE riff to be worked but i just can't be arsed tbh

― VONC louse-wits (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:55 (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

CBFA

The quote-marks-for-emphasis is a "Your uncle texting" trademark that I've been surprised not to see before now.

he (or Scavino) does this a lot btw

I think what the US president is saying, is that Boris Johnson is exactly what he has been looking for, a compliant Prime Minister who will hand Britain's public services and protections over to US corporations in a free trade deal. https://t.co/kcg2jkYi0o

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) August 28, 2019

pic.twitter.com/NVRAx4CQ6g

— Alec Flood (@AlecFlood) August 28, 2019

Petitions are magical thinking.

The imperial flagship that is radio bbc 2 pushed away Radio Oceane here in Bretagne to bring us - an ilxor desperate to get away from it all during holiday, and herself blissfully unaware of ilx obv - the Big News. Brexit rules the waves ;_;

(gl uk)

Honestly if these two pensioners fought you’d put money on Corbs

Thousands chanting #StopTheCoup at emergency protest against #prorogation of Parliament pic.twitter.com/iIk1tZudYT

— Mark Lankester (@markrlankester) August 28, 2019

Corbyn: tai chi on the allotment
Trump: KFC in bed

Corbyn cycles and can climb rocks and has undoubtedly faced the blunt end of a police baton on protests. Trump is a big man but he’s out of shape.

Legit; even the shabbiest national school in Ireland will teach you about what the president does, the various parts of the EU, Northern Ireland and what your taxes etc are used for; I remain shocked at how many people here don’t know that NI is in the UK or that Ireland isn’t.

What does Norman Davies say in "The Isles"? The United Kingdom is one of the only countries in the world where the vast majority of the population have no idea how and why it exists and what it even is - something like that. Yes, I have personal experience of people, in England of course, of fairly intelligent people not knowing that Northern Ireland is a separate entity from the rest of Ireland and a part of the UK.

Look sorry I know low-hanging fruit but SO STUPID

Not yet but Hancock and Rudd are in v difficult positions.

— Emma Kennedy (@EmmaKennedy) August 28, 2019

emma kennedy has big mensch energy

also cycling back to trump vs corbyn: trump is the most fit president ever according to his doctor and corbyn is dying according to anonymous civil servants so i know who im backing

Trump would have to cheat with a horseshoe in his right glove in this horseshoe brawl

I should probably not have been shocked by this, but a friend today, as part of saying they didn't understand what was happening, mentioned that politics wasn't available as a subject at their school, even at a Modern Studies / Civics level.

Civics was only introduced in the early 00s iirc and is not really taught beyond the age of about 14.

Or ‘citizenship’, as I think it’s called.

hope we get this scene in a future season of The Crown

https://i.imgur.com/asAbNr7.png

JC going really big in drawing connections to trump since boris’ inauguration. trump must be so toxic w all demos across GBP

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Donald_Trump

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Donald_Trump(popup:related_entities/favorite/Donald_Trump) lol

i assume Tom Watson's a fan then

The Queen made an it's/its mistake, what a dummy

Nah, it would have been too big, too influential an interference in politics for a non elected official to make.

were not amused

Ah misread your sentence, I made a dyslexia mistake. Queen and I are dyslexia buds.

Some people say things like 'NI is part of Britain'.

I don't consider this statement correct (I think NI is part of Ireland and part of the UK) but perhaps Ulster Unionists who say 'NI is British' do?

At that level it could become quite conceptual. Maybe a place can have the quality of another place despite not being part of that place. Like - the Costa del Sol is British? Earl's Court is Australian?

Even a very senior academic known to me has written 'Ireland, in the early C20, was part of Britain'. Again, this seems to be a basic inaccuracy.

Beyond this, not knowing that the ROI is not in the UK is a different level.

A genuine ambiguity that I have still never truly seen cleared up is whether Scotland, Wales and NI, or for that matter England, are: 'countries', 'nations', or 'regions' of the UK. I think this is something that people continue to improvise and vary - which is possibly absurd.

You could say that none of them is a 'state' (that only the UK is) but even then, there is arguably a Scottish state?

im going from possibly flawed memory here, isnt britain the island and the uk the inclusive territory

Correct

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (I read that off a passport)