no studying what can't be seen
― VONC louse-wits (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:33 (six years ago)
Exactly. There are huge grey areas as to the extent of executive power, the royal prerogative, etc. There are probably about six people with a working knowledge of the constitution.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:34 (six years ago)
there's a bit of a difference between knowing that the limits and rules are Byzantine and wondering out loud if some bad person "made the Queen do a Brexit"
― VONC louse-wits (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:37 (six years ago)
I remember her
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:37 (six years ago)
announce murdo fraser to end of season
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:38 (six years ago)
or the one guy on the vox pop who was like "I think it's really bad that Johnson can just stop parliament because then like the next time and if the Labours get in what if they say 'well you did it so so will we we' and then they stop it so they can make nuclear disarmament or something?"
not even joking
― VONC louse-wits (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:39 (six years ago)
announce Murdo MacLeod to end of season
― VONC louse-wits (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:40 (six years ago)
haha ruthie
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:40 (six years ago)
I’m holding fire until Bogdanor weighs in on whether a bad person made the queen do a Brexit.
The state of political education in this country is shocking, though, which you’d imagine is by design rather than accident.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:42 (six years ago)
as well as being byzantine and unwritten, the rules change and the meanings of the rules change!
this is what politics is, and the active space of politics is how much change can be made and how much will be tolerated (this also is why the infestation of QCs and law-explainer guys has been the opposite of helpful: none of them really grasp politics at all, including when they themselves are being highly political)
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:43 (six years ago)
The Dáil was repeatedly prorogued during the second civil war and anti-Treaty people argued that both the Third Dáil and everything that followed were illegitimate as a result (iirc)?
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:43 (six years ago)
or the one guy on the vox pop who was like "I think it's really bad that Johnson can just stop parliament because then like the next time and if the Labours get in what if they say 'well you did it so so will we we' and then they stop it so they can make nuclear disarmament or something?"not even joking
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:45 (six years ago)
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:47 (six years ago)
yes, sure. this is another example of the whole Brexit fiasco as a potential catalyst of some kind of change in the political fabric. not necessarily for the better, obv, but there's something hugely entertaining about watching all this moth-eaten stage scenery getting dragged into the public eye
― VONC louse-wits (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:47 (six years ago)
brain norms vs brain worms, who will win
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:48 (six years ago)
Johnson not worrying about giving tools to his political enemies as they will all be disappeared during the next government
― VONC louse-wits (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:49 (six years ago)
gormless br(it)ain
― nashwan, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:51 (six years ago)
Wait, idk why I said NS when that’s first year civics? Anyway.
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:51 (six years ago)
The Queen is a traitor. #StopTheCoup pic.twitter.com/fGZPwmYTIc— twitch.tv/Limmy (@DaftLimmy) August 28, 2019
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:51 (six years ago)
sha's turned tha brains aginst us
― nashwan, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:52 (six years ago)
i feel like there's gotta be some FBPE/CBE riff to be worked but i just can't be arsed tbh
― VONC louse-wits (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:55 (six years ago)
might bike over to Parliament Square now - still no umbrella tho
― nashwan, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:55 (six years ago)
just heard someone referred to as "the former black rod" explaining that Liz would only be politically compromised if someone requested her to annul the proroguing of parliament.
― calzino, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:56 (six years ago)
xp there were people starting to move that way when I passed a while ago but they didn’t look to be assembling on parliament sq itself (it was roped off)? Plenty of coppers around.
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:57 (six years ago)
Might organise an online petition to boycott the Downton Abbey movie
― VONC louse-wits (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:58 (six years ago)
― VONC louse-wits (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:55 (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
CBFA
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:59 (six years ago)
The quote-marks-for-emphasis is a "Your uncle texting" trademark that I've been surprised not to see before now.
he (or Scavino) does this a lot btw
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:00 (six years ago)
I think what the US president is saying, is that Boris Johnson is exactly what he has been looking for, a compliant Prime Minister who will hand Britain's public services and protections over to US corporations in a free trade deal. https://t.co/kcg2jkYi0o— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) August 28, 2019
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:02 (six years ago)
pic.twitter.com/NVRAx4CQ6g— Alec Flood (@AlecFlood) August 28, 2019
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:03 (six years ago)
Petitions are magical thinking.
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:04 (six years ago)
The imperial flagship that is radio bbc 2 pushed away Radio Oceane here in Bretagne to bring us - an ilxor desperate to get away from it all during holiday, and herself blissfully unaware of ilx obv - the Big News. Brexit rules the waves ;_;(gl uk)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:12 (six years ago)
Honestly if these two pensioners fought you’d put money on Corbs
― lowkey goatsed on the styx (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:19 (six years ago)
Thousands chanting #StopTheCoup at emergency protest against #prorogation of Parliament pic.twitter.com/iIk1tZudYT— Mark Lankester (@markrlankester) August 28, 2019
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:30 (six years ago)
Corbyn: tai chi on the allotment Trump: KFC in bed
― suzy, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:37 (six years ago)
Corbyn cycles and can climb rocks and has undoubtedly faced the blunt end of a police baton on protests. Trump is a big man but he’s out of shape.
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:38 (six years ago)
Legit; even the shabbiest national school in Ireland will teach you about what the president does, the various parts of the EU, Northern Ireland and what your taxes etc are used for; I remain shocked at how many people here don’t know that NI is in the UK or that Ireland isn’t.
What does Norman Davies say in "The Isles"? The United Kingdom is one of the only countries in the world where the vast majority of the population have no idea how and why it exists and what it even is - something like that. Yes, I have personal experience of people, in England of course, of fairly intelligent people not knowing that Northern Ireland is a separate entity from the rest of Ireland and a part of the UK.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:47 (six years ago)
Look sorry I know low-hanging fruit but SO STUPID
Not yet but Hancock and Rudd are in v difficult positions.— Emma Kennedy (@EmmaKennedy) August 28, 2019
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:51 (six years ago)
emma kennedy has big mensch energy
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 18:08 (six years ago)
also cycling back to trump vs corbyn: trump is the most fit president ever according to his doctor and corbyn is dying according to anonymous civil servants so i know who im backing
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 18:09 (six years ago)
Trump would have to cheat with a horseshoe in his right glove in this horseshoe brawl
― calzino, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 18:33 (six years ago)
I should probably not have been shocked by this, but a friend today, as part of saying they didn't understand what was happening, mentioned that politics wasn't available as a subject at their school, even at a Modern Studies / Civics level.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 18:33 (six years ago)
Civics was only introduced in the early 00s iirc and is not really taught beyond the age of about 14.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 18:43 (six years ago)
Or ‘citizenship’, as I think it’s called.
hope we get this scene in a future season of The Crown
https://i.imgur.com/asAbNr7.png
― soref, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 18:47 (six years ago)
JC going really big in drawing connections to trump since boris’ inauguration. trump must be so toxic w all demos across GBP
― самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 19:27 (six years ago)
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Donald_Trumphttps://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Donald_Trump(popup:related_entities/favorite/Donald_Trump) lol
― gyac, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 19:35 (six years ago)
i assume Tom Watson's a fan then
― VONC louse-wits (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 19:43 (six years ago)
The Queen made an it's/its mistake, what a dummy
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 20:33 (six years ago)
Nah, it would have been too big, too influential an interference in politics for a non elected official to make.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 20:35 (six years ago)
were not amused
― rob, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 20:36 (six years ago)