PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

Here we fuckin' go.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49493632

lol we’re all gonna die

IDS was on the bbc at 8:30 THIS MORNING saying that this wasn't going to happen.

it's nearing the point where i'm not going to trust another word he says...

The Quiet Man strikes again.

Who would have guessed that the Brexit project would end up as a coup d'etat by shady right wing forces?

So can Lizzie tell them to fuck off or is it more of a fait accompli? Pardon my ignorance of due process towards installing a dictatorship.

i think technically she could?

no fuckin chance she will tho

If she told them to fuck off, would the press scream that she was a traitor?

splitting their readers mind

Mail/Sun readers would happily lynch anyone getting in the way of their cliff-jump, including the Queen.

Still, you have to understand people's legitimate concerns

the queen only has one option here, she needs to commit suicide to preserve the politically unbiased integrity of her old constitutional monarchy business.

Perhaps if she died the period of mourning would help?

Would they menace her with stuff about her most decadent and stupid failson?

By presenting it as a ho-hum Queen’s Speech (which we are badly overdue for anyway) they make it harder for the Palace to do anything (not that it would have done anything).

So if Option A to stop this idiocy (constitutional means) is out, is it VONC time?

Don't believe the propaganda, the GBP would turn on the Saxe-Coburgs in a heartbeat.

I think that’s a grey area, isn’t it? A challenged VONC takes 14 days and they’d only have 7 before prorogation. Legislation falls on the floor when parliament prorogued so idk what happens there

Unless you're Rory Stewart, it's VONC or die

A VONC would at least create the excuse to delay a proragation I would imagine

Of course what will happen is the shady coalition of Tories and Tories in other parties and Tories currently without a party will probably still prefer No Deal + showboating to an actual election

So you think they don’t really want this but are doing it to force Remain MPs to act more strongly than “having meetings” so they can be blamed for blocking Brexit/causing election? 5D-chess sets seen entering Downing St. Xp

I think if they can bluff and bluster their way to No Deal they'd happily forgo an election until after the fact, I'm sure they consider that the preferable scenario but aren't afraid of going to the polls if by some miracle the professed anti No Deal camp gets its shit together

I think that’s right but can’t understand how they think they’ll possibly win a post-No Deal election with pigeons coming home all over the shop. “Look what the EU have done to us!” only gets you so far

You call the election before the pigeons arrive, obviously.

xp Because Blitz Spirit, because Project Fear, because the EU won't seriously take the side of Ireland over the UK once the chips are down, will they?

... Confucius says. (xp)

(IE they don't think the pigeons will come home in any significant way)

What are the odds they have the numbers for a successful VONC?

This is not awful as long as the left can organise around coordinated strike action and the likes of Corbyn can get some rallies going.

I mean who the fuck was up for positives meetings with woke Soubz.

Uh right, that'll be a game changer. (xp)

So...I know its Preston but..

“we'll dissolve Parliament and have an election between 1-5 November -- and that means no time for legislation”. Flippin’ ‘eck.

— Robert Peston (@Peston) August 28, 2019

Uh right, that'll be a game changer. (xp)

― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 bookmarkflaglink

What's your suggestion? Rolling over?

i think technically she could?

no fuckin chance she will tho

More chance of them sitting in a building across the road.

I think it's possible for Johnson to believe that in the immediate aftermath of a 31 Oct withdrawal he would benefit from an "I got on with it" swell of approval, a Brexit Party with no reason to exist, and furious Remainers splitting the opposition vote rather than coalescing to vote him out.

The full-on xenophobes will never admit Brexit was a bad move, no matter if the UK breaks up into neolithic warring tribes. The dithering leavers mayn't realise immediately what they've done and so back him for "leadership" if the election happens quickly enough

National strike supported by both unions and businesses sympathetic to avoiding no-deal would be phenomenally embarrassing and should be pursued in parallel to any parliamentary activity, though it won’t.

Well, yes, that's about as likely as the Rory's alternative parliament.

Yup he has to unite the right but he might still lose Tory/lib dem liberals in those marginals. xp to NV

Who would a general strike action be embarrassing to? If Parliament isn't allowed to sit it can't be pursued in parallel anyway.

lmao FBPE are going to behead the queen pic.twitter.com/f3ydmvTng2

— a a dril (@demarionunn) August 28, 2019

Who would a general strike action be embarrassing to?

Cummings Johnson, I assume?

Great?

"this is not democracy" -- well how do we show it?

A general strike would be embarrassing to the Johnson government but, imo, only if there was enough outright or tacit support from business. It’s not likely to happen but the Polish women’s strike a couple of years ago showed it’s not entirely impossible to imagine.

My umbrella broke but otherwise ready to HK dis ting

Nah gonna write to the Queen instead

A general strike would be embarrassing to the Johnson government but, imo, only if there was enough outright or tacit support from business. It’s not likely to happen but the Polish women’s strike a couple of years ago showed it’s not entirely impossible to imagine.

In Poland.

I have thought for ages if any of these people were out on the street every weekend you’d see more fear from the government, but they’d rather concentrate their energies on abusing Labour and writing up fantasy frontbenches instead.

Lol at this moaning and groaning:

Totally wrong to prorogue Parliament. Everyone can see this for what it is, a grubby attempt to force No Deal. As Privy Cllr & MP, I cannot support putting the Queen in an impossible position & closing down debate. Take back control now = take away control https://t.co/6PvCK61hDn

— Justine Greening (@JustineGreening) August 28, 2019