San Francisco and what to do in it

it is but I've lived there since 1991 and I'm getting sick of it.

Thought I would also put in a plug for Marin. Novato (population 50,000) is relatively affordable & you can board horses on the west side of town. It's not a vibrant as Petaluma but you are a good bit closer to rest of the bay area. Petaluma doesn't seem that much farther north but the 10 miles or so of the 101 between Novato and Petaluma has ridiculous traffic. Or if you want a bit more urban flavor San Rafael (also pop 50,000) is worth checking out. Much closer to SF, lots of old nice properties, and a reasonably sized urban center with stuff to do. And board your horse in Novato.

Marin is so awesome

I live in SF but Marin is a pastoral fantasy for me

Tamalpais’s rain forests, bike paths, puma sightings, beach reveries, amazing vistas, and astonishing hidden alpine lakes are unlike anything I’ve ever seen.

I appreciate those things but also realize how much I value walking to farmers market and a good bakery.

Planning a CA trip for initial recognizance late Dec. This is all very helpful for planning, thanking u

Clearly we should do some sort of ILX pub meetup or the like. I would say that.

Seconded!

Spouse is like "should we consider anywhere in southern CA?" and despite having little to no exposure to anything south of the Bay area, I have some sort of northern CA bias. Should I be more open minded?

Damn CA, why u so big?

xpost So long as it's after Christmas by a couple of days I'll be around. (Probably heading home on Sunday the 22nd.)

I’m up for a FAP

Looking like Dec 21-Jan 2 or thereabouts.

I never go anywhere for xmas (lol jews)

Fully down for a Not New Year's Eve thing.

I’m usually out there sometime during that timE.

late to game, here to rep Placerville area or Newcastle outside sacramento: tres horsey, v pastoral old timey small towns, 45 min or less from city

cons -Sacramento summer sucks aasssss & lacks cool factor (literally & figuratively) of Sonoma/Marin County/Bay Area. but downtown is v vibrant now, esp in past 5-10 years, lots of growth etc.

oh and pville can be kinda rednecky but folks by and large are v nice

It’s waaaaaay too hot (for me) in Placerville- no way could I do 110 in the summer

Yeah I am specifically seeking better weather than hot and humid DC. Like, it is kind of a driving factor. That and the mosquitos.

And the lawyers. So many lawyers.

no humidity, just pure unadulterated fireball-in-the-sky heat

lol

entirely accurate (xp)

xpost, having grown up back east, I still marvel at the lack of bugs during the summers in the bay area.

I used to dislike southern california based on nothing but I like it well enough now. Pasadena is very nice. However, if you're trying to get away from heat, you probably don't want to live there.

Even the bay area is getting hotter in the summer, but it's tolerable and I'm convinced that the more or less temperate climate is only going to make it more desireable over the next 40 years as 3/4 of the country bursts into flames.

Santa Rosa gets pretty hot in summer, doesn’t it? The further inland you go, the worse it gets

Yep, it does, and Healdsburg/Cloverdale even moreso. Closer to the coast (Forestville, Guerneville, Sebastopol) stay a bit milder.

And the nice thing even in the hottest parts of the county is that a) the heat’s totally dry and b) those summer days can have a high of 100 but a low of 55, so it really does fully cool off every night.

b) those summer days can have a high of 100 but a low of 55, so it really does fully cool off every night.

"can have" does not equal "always have" ... unless you are specifically talking Sonoma County ... further south, this is definitely not the case

I was born and raised in Sebastopol, relocated to Brooklyn but am still back to visit my folks in Santa Rosa every year or so, can cosign everything Eazy said. Lots of my friends moved back to 'slow-coma' county in the past year after their kids were born. It's edenic behind the redwood curtain.

i think Santa Cruz is a great suggestion. Further south, but friends live in a little town near santa barbara called carpiteria. supposedly very nice. don't know if it quite ticks all your boxes though. parts of LA are awesome, but i really don't know enough to make suggestions. stear clear of the inland empire though. it pretty sucky

I think it's Carpinteria. Were you thinking of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqM7KgyXz2Q

One of the catchiest jingles of my childhood!

lol, yes. and i had completely forgotten abt that

Santa Barbara is *way* farther south

LMBO at Carpiteria, still not sure if that was a troll post or not, well done.

i know, just trying to be "california completist" if quincie is considering other parts
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Can't believe no one has suggested Lodi yet

Take it to the CCR thread.

Sure thing josh in CHICAGO

Would you prefer Josh in Chico?

nobody wants to live in Chico

oh wait sorry I was thinking of Chino

Chico's not so bad

https://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/55/2019/01/GettyImages-1047605856-920x584.jpg
"Chiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnooooooo ... "

yknow where is really poppin

Hercules

Chico is full of idiotic beer pong loving college drunks

or might i suggest

~flourish~

Clearlake

quincie do you like meth, perchance?

lol beer pong

Oh dear, spouse talked to some tech bro and now wants to add RENO to the mix??? Wtf??? How did we get from NoCa to RENO?

Hemet is where it's at ... or Turlock

quincie do you like meth, perchance?

― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, August 28, 2019 8:55 PM (yesterday)

If she does, I would really like to give a shout out to Bakersfield!