2020 Democratic presidential primary

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Top two should just draw straws to figure out who drops out of the race and becomes the other's veep, imo.

McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 August 2019 17:58 (six years ago)

one more caveat about this single national poll is that it is small (6 point margin of error).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 26 August 2019 17:58 (six years ago)

there are good polls, there are bad polls

Imagine being so certain that @DavidAxelrod would lie about you on @CNN that you bring the exact receipts to an interview. #Bernie2020 https://t.co/nAFiheMUwi

— elaine layabout is a bro (@elainelayabout) August 25, 2019

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:06 (six years ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/26/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-democrats.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:10 (six years ago)

Top two should just draw straws to figure out who drops out of the race and becomes the other's veep

Nobody's fucking voted

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:11 (six years ago)

Whoa, really?
https://media2.giphy.com/media/SDogLD4FOZMM8/giphy.gif

McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:33 (six years ago)

you and a few thousand other dingalings are calling on candidates w/ sbout 20% to drop out, aintcha? lunacy

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:39 (six years ago)

I'd say the putative top two joining forces might just seal the deal in our favor. And FTR, I wasn't saying they should do it literally this moment.

(My real preference is to just let the Chicago machine pick Humphrey Mk II and put this whole thing to rest. Clooney, come on down!)

McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:43 (six years ago)

I guess I understand this fanatasy but these aren't backbenchers, they are two serious legislators, and neither of them are going to run for veep

Anyway the party isn't going to go into this w a ticket comprised of TWO lefty New England senators. If Warren gets the nom it will probably be a younger man, if Bernie then a woman or POC—in either case somebody w/ positions slightly more palatable to moderates.

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:49 (six years ago)

Warren/Castro, Sanders/Stacy Abrams

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:51 (six years ago)

Can't see Harris wanting the VP job when she could be AG and have something to actually do tbh

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:51 (six years ago)

xp (...more palatable to moderates and probably somebody w/ executive experience—governor, mayor, whatever)

silby yeah like that

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:52 (six years ago)

xxxpost Oh, I know that's what's GOING to happen. I'm just proposing creative alternatives to Vice Presidential candidate Jeff Whosthat or Betty Idontevenknow.

McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:53 (six years ago)

Biden support among voters under 50: 6%

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:55 (six years ago)

holy cow

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:56 (six years ago)

Biden support among voters under 50: 6%

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, August 26, 2019 2:55 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

if that's the monmouth poll, that's a poll of 129 under 50s and the MOE is 9%, which is getting into anecdotal territory

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 26 August 2019 19:08 (six years ago)

Much too small a poll, but still:


Aug June
2019 2019
Sanders 20% 14%
Warren 20% 15%
Biden 19% 32%
Harris 8% 8%
Booker 4% 2%
Buttigieg 4% 5%
Yang 3% 2%
Castro 2% <1%
O’Rourke 2% 3%

Favorable Unfavorable
Biden 66% 25%
Sanders 64% 24%
Warren 65% 13%
O’Rourke 39% 20%
Harris 56% 17%
Buttigieg 43% 14%
Booker 49% 14%
Castro 35% 13%
Yang 24% 12%

Among 18-49 year olds:
Sanders 27%
Warren 19%
Harris 12%
Biden 6%
Yang 6%
Booker 5%

Among college grads:
Warren 25%
Biden 20%
Sanders 14%
Harris 10%
Buttigieg 5%

hedonic treadmill class action (Sanpaku), Monday, 26 August 2019 19:09 (six years ago)

you and a few thousand other dingalings are calling on candidates w/ sbout 20% to drop out, aintcha? lunacy

Biden support among voters under 50: 6%

...are you suggesting that this candidate with about 20% should drop out

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 26 August 2019 20:26 (six years ago)

Biden support among voters under 50: 6%
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, August 26, 2019 2:55 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

if that's the monmouth poll, that's a poll of 129 under 50s and the MOE is 9%, which is getting into anecdotal territory

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, August 26, 2019 2:08 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

BREAKING: Biden polling at -3% with voters under 50

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Monday, 26 August 2019 20:31 (six years ago)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/27/lesbians-pete-buttigieg-2020-president-1475900

why some lesbians don't want pete buttigieg to be president

j., Wednesday, 28 August 2019 02:57 (six years ago)

Why some lesbians don’t want Pete Buttigieg to be president

Simon H., Wednesday, 28 August 2019 03:03 (six years ago)

Why some lesbians don’t want Pete Buttigieg to be president

Vape Store (crüt), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 03:13 (six years ago)

"Lesbian political activists are divided", or so I hear. Other lesbians? I guess we'll have to wait and see, when Politico gets around to asking them.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 03:34 (six years ago)

I don't want Pete Buttigieg to be president

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 04:20 (six years ago)

I am suggesting Old Joe is flaming out, sic

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 04:23 (six years ago)

Why not? He flamed out every other time he ran for president.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 04:25 (six years ago)

u dingaling

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 04:40 (six years ago)

gillibrand out

mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:41 (six years ago)

Why some lesbians don’t want Pete Buttigieg to be president because he interestng

akm, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:44 (six years ago)

a nation mourns xp

lowkey goatsed on the styx (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:44 (six years ago)

Gillibrand's fine in the Senate. I can see why she wanted this but she just doesn't have a marketable angle or base of support.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:48 (six years ago)

I sealed her fate when I forgot to put her in the poll options

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:50 (six years ago)

xp. So much for the Hillary (NY, gender-focused, centrist) contingent. Buttigieg and Harris tied up the corporate donors, so there wasn't much political real estate left...

hedonic treadmill class action (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:51 (six years ago)

Buttigieg and Harris tied up the corporate donor

lol u forgot somebody

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:53 (six years ago)

Biden? Buttigieg outraised him.

hedonic treadmill class action (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:54 (six years ago)

Why they hide the bodies under my garage

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:55 (six years ago)

Gillibrand, we hardly knew you. OK, we kind of did, so maybe that's why nobody was supporting you?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:58 (six years ago)

just think it's weird to act like the current "frontrunner" isn't also hoovering up corporate money, it's what he's always done

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:00 (six years ago)

Gillibrand's fine in the Senate. I can see why she wanted this but she just doesn't have a marketable angle or base of support.

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, August 28, 2019 5:48 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i believe her pitch was that she has a record of winning rural whites without moving too far right. but klobuchar has that plus the comb-eater lane sewn up.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:00 (six years ago)

I thought she would have shown up with some policy positions or at least a decent stump speech. I’m frankly surprised she did so poorly but that’s probably a failure of my own imagination- I assumed a much thinner field and wasn’t expecting Warren and Harris to turn out as strongly as they have.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:04 (six years ago)

people wanted Warren to run last time, she's been laying this groundwork forever. Harris is behind her in that respect.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:15 (six years ago)

I thought Gillibrand did pretty good in the debates personally, better than Klobuchar for sure, and I don't dislike her nearly as much as everyone else appears to. I hope she has a long run in the Senate. I think she's a good person.

akm, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:16 (six years ago)

I don't dislike her she just didn't seem very good at running for President!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:17 (six years ago)

like Harris I think calling her a centrist is fundamentally inaccurate but whatever I'm in the minority on that point

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:18 (six years ago)

gillibrand also disliked by some of what you might think of as her natural constituency because of the franken stuff.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:22 (six years ago)

i thought it was that and the difficulty fundraising that basically weighed her down? other than that i never really heard anyone saying anything terrible about her, she seemed like she would be good, a good campaigner, etc? just no traction

j., Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:31 (six years ago)

social media reactions to everything she said was about 95% angry Franken reactions, many from women. it was so over the top I found it a bit suspicious.

akm, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:37 (six years ago)

maybe I underestimate how popular Franken was in the midwest or something.

akm, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:37 (six years ago)

Gillibrand now drinks her whiskey alone.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:37 (six years ago)

xp they do love to grumble that he got a bad rap around here, maybe they are the people propping up biden's numbers too

j., Wednesday, 28 August 2019 22:38 (six years ago)


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