The August 2019 US Politics Thread is dumb (stupid}

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trump's algorithm processing program has become so weirdly fast and immediate that it's now like some kind of uncanny valley violation. the robot is not sentient. the programming has gone from "the causation loop is clear to observers with 15 seconds worth of thought" to "even trump idiots cannot not see this immediately."

Hunt3r, Friday, 23 August 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

After reading that piece I believe we must all be professors.

nashwan, Friday, 23 August 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

We're all gonna feel awful once Amy Wax's neurologist finally detects that softball-sized tumor in her brain.

McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 August 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

And now having read Chotiner's interview with Bill Owens I believe we must all be reverends.

nashwan, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

have asked many sophisticated, knowledgeable people that question, and I have never gotten anything close to a plausible answer

even an uncouth dilettante like me knows about "Guns Germs & Steel"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

left me asking the question, 'are you capable of assembling a sandwich without assistance?'

wow, leave the lex out of this

mookieproof, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

I have asked many sophisticated, knowledgeable people that question, and I have never gotten anything close to a plausible answer

This stupid asshole and his stupid friends and associates have never heard of colonialism? More likely they heard about it and immediately forgot about it.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

she spends 75% of the time rolling her eyes at the choice of words, refusing to acknowledge that these words exist, and have viable definitions that apply to the real world and current events.

omar little, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link

aimless, give the interview a read, but here's her answer for you:

I think colonialism as an explanation is just a nonstarter. Colonialism came very late on the scene. It took advantage of these discrepancies in sophistication and modernity, in advancement in technology, in science. One thing that’s quite striking is there is essentially no science being done in a place like Malaysia. No science, no technology coming out. I consider that very closely related to the lack of commitment to empiricism, the lack of a cultural practice of attention to evidence, rigor, analysis, facts. They all work together, so I think that when we say colonialism, do they mean that if it weren’t for colonialism, Malaysia would be Denmark? Does anybody really believe that, honestly and truly? I think it’s a nonstarter.

hope the blowback gets her good and fired

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

well i've read enough

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

Just real quick

Why are there so many shithole countries? Of course the moment you say that, people just get outraged: Oh, my God, you are a racist for saying that. And that, of course, lets them off the hook; they don’t have to answer the question, which is convenient.

...

What is your answer?

I don’t have one.

I mean there couldn't have been more than like a minute or two that elapsed between those utterances.

McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:08 (four years ago) link

Shaping the minds of our youth.

McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

'If I say this, they can't sack me, as it would only prove my point.'

nashwan, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

Insisting Trump is a 'serial monogamist'?!

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

btw I love it when Trump uses the word "hereby."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link

she's not going to get fired. she's been saying this shit for awhile. She just can't teach first year courses anymore which seems more like a reward.

Yerac, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

perhaps, amy wax, it is you who are the nonstarter

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

i'm sure trump would be fine with the next US president ordering his companies to do things

Karl Malone, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

Amy, I wanted to ask- in your essay entitled "How Race and Culture are Intertwined", it appears the entirety of the text is dedicated to your description, in great detail, of the process of you personally defecting into your own hand. By the second page, where you describe the temperature, it became clear that you were not actually driving towards making any larger point. What was your reason for writing this?

Evan, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link

typo whoops

Evan, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

I am reading that as if "typo whoops" was her answer

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

for all her promotion of 'empiricism' it sounds like her agenda consists of insisting on the existence of 'obvious' realities that must be explained while systematically sowing untutored skepticism about any and all authoritative inquiries into those realities. like a newspaper website commenter.

j., Friday, 23 August 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

"have you noticed there is more crime in minority neighbourhoods? on average, i mean? it's an incredibly understudied subject in 2019. it's like people don't want to go there. i don't get it. you mention it at academic conferences and you get called a moron!"

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

i was thinking more "like a racist seinfeld routine"
http://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/55/2017/08/GettyImages-692779742-920x584.jpg

When I go to the opera in Munich, an afternoon performance, full-length, designated for children, of “The Magic Flute” or something, I also notice it. These young children sit quietly, well behaved. They wouldn’t dream of creating a ruckus, just like they wouldn’t dream of littering.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

What's the deal with all of these rude people giving the stinkeye every time I start screaming my uninformed opinions into their faces?

McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

My favorite is the Berkshires part. It's like a Beckett play.

Yerac, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link

Judges surprise attorneys for Trump’s bankers by asking about his tax returns

The hearing featured arguments over whether Deutsche Bank, Capital One should have to comply with subpoenas from Congress

By Renae MerleAugust 23 at 1:51 PM
NEW YORK – Attorneys for Deutsche Bank and Capital One repeatedly refused to tell a federal appeals court Friday whether the banks have President Trump’s tax returns, citing “contractual obligations” for rebuffing the court’s questions.

Trump is appealing a district court ruling that cleared the way for the banks to hand over years of financial records from the president, his three eldest children and the president’s companies to two House committees.

Toward the end of Friday’s hearing, the three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit considering the appeal asked the banks’ attorneys whether the documents subject to the subpoenas could potentially include the president’s tax returns.

“I am not asking you for the content of them at all,” said Judge Jon O. Newman.

“We’re not in a position to answer that question,” said Raphael Prober, the attorney for Deutsche Bank, the president’s largest creditor.

“It is a fairly important question in this case,” Newman said.

The Chronicles of Ermagerd (WmC), Friday, 23 August 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

lol

Very opinionated and speaks subjectively and through anecdotes. Can't say this was the best professor I've had, avoid if you can.

https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=561675

global tetrahedron, Friday, 23 August 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

A thoroughly unpleasant human being. Obsessed with her own victimization at the hands of forces she believes deserve blame for being victims themselves. Uses anecdotal evidence and uncareful interpretations of social scientific data to support many of her policy prescriptions. Decent instructor when she can just stick to the course content.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 August 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

are students still using RMP? I'm getting fewer and fewer reviews. I wonder if they just bitch on What'sapp chat rooms.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 August 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

JUST IN: Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg underwent 3 weeks of radiation treatment this summer after the discovery a cancerous tumor on her pancreas. Full statement below (h/t @JanCBS) pic.twitter.com/t7kDQghHVZ

— Ed O'Keefe (@edokeefe) August 23, 2019

*grimace*

Karl Malone, Friday, 23 August 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link

ugh

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 23 August 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

I've looked at SCOTUS as lost since November '16, and the Warren Court as a historical outlier (which it legit is), so.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 August 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link

My MIL had a similar ablation to treat Gallbladder cancer, she never recovered and died shortly after. She was only 57.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 23 August 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

Bye bye, America. Bye bye.

McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 August 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

she's a human being. let her live out her life in dignity.

Vape Store (crüt), Friday, 23 August 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

lol

_Very opinionated and speaks subjectively and through anecdotes. Can't say this was the best professor I've had, avoid if you can._

https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=561675🕸

“Are you Amy?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aEnnH6t8Ts

breastcrawl, Friday, 23 August 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

The endless nitpicking over the word racism is extremely crazy making. Like, we get it, you want to say and a bunch of racist stuff without being called racist. No one is fooled by your rules lawyering.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 23 August 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

otm, though I'll take Wax's suggestion and happily call her evil as well

rob, Friday, 23 August 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link

blindly opinionated ignorance accomplishes a lot of evil in the world and she has that in abundance, but evil inheres in specific actions and words, and people tend to be mixed bags of the good, the bad and the indifferent.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 23 August 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

No, I think she's probably just evil

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 23 August 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link

A thoroughly unpleasant human being. Obsessed with her own victimization at the hands of forces she believes deserve blame for being victims themselves. Uses anecdotal evidence and uncareful interpretations of social scientific data to support many of her policy prescriptions.

why does this person hate conservatives?? liberal indoctrination via higher ed system clearly already taken hold

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 23 August 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday ordered a like-for-like response to a recent U.S. missile test, which he said showed that Washington aimed to deploy previously banned missiles around the world.

wot a cozy relationship

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 August 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

Chris Hayes is discussing the Ku Klux Klan Act and Enforcement Act, Johnson and Grant, on MSNBC. I'm choking up. This shit is never said aloud.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 August 2019 00:08 (four years ago) link

he made the connection to El Paso and Dayton -- white supremacy as existential threat as much as Al Qaeda.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 August 2019 00:08 (four years ago) link

Yes! I hardly ever catch his show but it’s been on while I’m straightening up the house

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 24 August 2019 00:47 (four years ago) link

I love now

Trump, struggling to speak, cites "somebody who came in the other day" to make a fact-free claim that "tech companies" manipulated 15 million votes in Hillary Clinton's favor in 2016.

He then seems to have a hard time remembering Emmanuel Macron's name. pic.twitter.com/6cau7KqATY

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 24, 2019

Simon H., Saturday, 24 August 2019 03:49 (four years ago) link

ugh just die already

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 24 August 2019 03:53 (four years ago) link

that's a great encapsulation of trump as president

Vape Store (crüt), Saturday, 24 August 2019 03:55 (four years ago) link

has anyone written a feature article on trump's habit of giving press conferences under the roar of the helicopter? aesthetically it is one thing i will always associate with his presidency, the high frequencies of the spinning blades

Karl Malone, Saturday, 24 August 2019 05:07 (four years ago) link


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