Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

But he'll presumably still be starring in big, Sony-produced Spidey movies, am I missing something?

the mcu was clearly setting up a huge, RDJ-like role for spidey/holland. this lack of deal probably hits him in the wallet.

I guess it would be interesting to see how Sony disentangles the MCU elements from future movies (if the deal is truly dead; Variety’s reporting makes the breakdown sound less definitive than Deadline does).

When contacted by io9, a Sony representative said it’s their belief this dispute is simply over a producer credit and negotiations are ongoing. They further clarified that Feige has contributed to other Spider-centric movies that he did not receive a producer credit on. Other sources tell us the Deadline story is completely accurate.

Kamala Khan series coming to Disney+!

Plus Moon Knight and She-Hulk.

Moon Knight! Finally!

I wonder if Angie Harmon will finally get her She-Hulk casting wish.

How many series is this at this point?

More movie news:

https://io9.gizmodo.com/black-panther-2s-release-date-revealed-kit-harington-j-1837539099

Anyway, series as mentioned but:

Just found out they’re making a Moonknight movie and this better be in it pic.twitter.com/o1gQLLBtXo

— Cooper Wilhelm (@CooperWilhelm) August 24, 2019

Don't think I've ever actually seen Steinfeld in anything, but seems like potentially good casting?: https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/hawkeye-series-hailee-steinfeld-disney-plus-1203318859/

Don't know about good casting, but seems like potentially a good career move.

she was great in True Grit and Edge of Seventeen

that is great casting, she’s a perfect kate bishop

https://io9.gizmodo.com/sony-and-marvel-strike-new-deal-to-keep-spider-man-in-t-1838527425

Inevitable. Although less so is the deal to have Spidey straddle both the MCU and the Sony Crapverse. Nice bit o' extra walkin' around money for Holland.

Are you his accountant or something, lol

Only for Spidey 3 and a single MCU movie, I'm guessing whatever grand plans Marvel had for him are still kinda derailed. Still, much better than nothing, at least the Home trilogy will get a completed ending.

Popcorn movies reinforce cultural values of the moment. Marvel is brilliant at encapsulating the Kardashification of wealth and power as virtue. You can hang out in the mansions with the toys with your good looking friends and still save the world.

— Joseph Kahn (@JosephKahn) October 21, 2019

wow, superheroes as power fantasy, what a novel take

This is an important point to make right now, in the midst of a nearly year-long period when Marvel is releasing precisely zero movies. But you knew that, of course.

Why don’t Coppola and Scorsese come at their boys Spielberg and Lucas (ret.)? “Popcorn movies” have been around for a minute; I don’t get what inspired this round of, er, “commentary.”

Spielberg and Lucas' best efforts at 'popcorn' look like Bresson in this context

“Best efforts,” I guess... I’m much more of a Star Wars fan than an MCU fan, but 3 or 4 of the SW movies Lucas made seem no “better” than the best of the MCU.

Morbs, I have prepared a substantial bowl of popcorn and I await your defense of the Star Wars prequels.

Has Scorsese ever commented on Star Wars? I can't imagine him liking it that much.

Anyway, MCU seem way more defensive than Star Wars fans, for whatever reason (at least from what I can tell online, nobody I know in real life cares that people don't like their favorite movies).

that's called "cherrypicking" rogermex

however i thought Phantom Menace was about as good as the first Iron Man

Phantom Menace was a seeping fistula

v harsh on fistulas imo

Attack of the Clones was horrible, Sith slightly better bcz mangling of Hayden Christensen

The prequels are DC level bad

Sith would have been a cinematic classic had it been 150 minutes of Christiansen dying

Marty was a big expanded universe fan, and he was steamed when Disney rendered all that stuff non-canon.

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Just think how much worse it would have been without Scorsese et al’s thoughts on it. https://variety.com/1999/voices/columns/lucas-friends-approve-of-episode-1-1117492871/

i would argue the star wars prequels are more interesting than any marvel film i've seen but y'all know where i'm coming from here. marvel movies are way more anonymous

though i guess i haven't seen them all

First Star Wars movie heavily indebted to Kirby's Fourth World comics, so it's just as much a comic book movie as Endgame

The prequels kind of get an unfair rap in some ways; at least Lucas was trying to do new things. (Though I think Revenge of the Sith is a truly awful movie)

i would argue the star wars prequels are more interesting than any marvel film i've seen but y'all know where i'm coming from here. marvel movies are way more anonymous

― american bradass (BradNelson), 21. oktober 2019 17:43 (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Well, yeah, but you know what's also not anonymous: Zack Snyder films! Still abysmal.

i like batman vs superman (i know it has no fans here, you don't have to tell me)

This is an important point to make right now, in the midst of a nearly year-long period when Marvel is releasing precisely zero movies. But you knew that, of course.

Seven (7) Marvel films have been released in the 23 months since his last feature was only able to screen for a week despite packing a theatre, and he is an American having his thoughts while flying from a commercial gig in Buenos Aires to one in London. He has to make commercials because he cannot get funding for mid-level features, which have been squeezed out of the market. Would it have been okay for him to have frustrations about a massive monopoly reshaping his chosen industry three months ago, if it’s not okay now?

It's too bad that Francis Ford Coppola can't get funding because of superhero-films, when in a perfect world he wouldn't be able to get funding because he haven't made a good movie in 40 years.

*continues to clown self itt* dracula was only 27 years ago

Tucker is a good movie also, that's only 30 years old.

Dracula is A Good Movie, I will die on this hill.

If there were no superhero movies, there'd have been 10 more Rambos

it's fuckin great xp

the larger point though is this squeezing-out of mid-budget fare. it's not just superheroes doing the squeezing - it's the well-discussed combination of franchise marketing, studios chasing reliable huge international grosses through effects-heavy spectaculars, and streaming options drawing away viewers (especially older viewers).... and it's not just New Cinema veterans losing the chance at wide releases for more serious or adult films, it's the theatrical death of the rom-com, the romantic drama, the police procedural, the biopic, the crime thriller, the espionage thriller, the buddy-cop movie...

there are exceptions to all of these obv, but what fills studios' slates and multiplex schedules is very very different than 10 or 20 years ago and i think it's okay for those who have some clout to complain about this to use that clout, even if it's tilting at windmills.

I feel like there are two biopics in the theatre at any given time. I am sick of them