2020 Democratic presidential primary

Also, Sanders adds little to a Warren ticket. Another white progressive from New England.

I'm fairly certain Wisconsin and probably Pennsylvania are back in the Dem column.

Wisconsin polling is pretty dire, you guys. Outside of Madison and Milwaukee, it's turned into Tennessee North.

they swung things for evers as gov

There's a lot of concerning data here: https://crooked.com/articles/pollercoaster-2020-whats-happening-wisconsin/

Wisconsin polling is pretty dire, you guys. Outside of Madison and Milwaukee, it's turned into Tennessee North.

In November 2018, Evers won 9 of the 10 biggest cities in the state. Green Bay? Evers won. Wausau? Evers won. Appleton? Evers won. Oskhosh and Sheboygan too. These places aren't in Madison and Milwaukee. If it's a place in Wisconsin people outside of Wisconsin have heard of, Evers won it in 2018. And of course Tammy Baldwin won all those places by even larger margins.

That's not to say Trump can't win Wisconsin! He did once! But I think it's absurd to think of the northern 2/3 of the state as solid Republican (remember, the biggest source of GOP votes here isn't the north, it's the Milwaukee suburbs.) And I think it's absurd to call the situation "dire." I would call it what I'd call just about every statewide race here: "competitive."

Yeah nothing in that data really shocked me or struck me as "dire." If anything Democrats have stopped the bleeding and gained a little ground.

I'm just a handwringer maybe.

I'm a handwringer too, but my concerns are the voter suppression and Russian hacking.

Wisconsin polling is pretty dire, you guys. Outside of Madison and Milwaukee, it's turned into Tennessee North.

Is there anywhere in the country where 'outside of the cities' isn't Tennessee North or worse?

Now that a good 70% or more of the US population lives in urban/suburban areas, and the Democratic base tilts heavily toward urban areas, it truly is the golden age of GOP gerrymandering. In dozens of states it's child's play to create compact districts that elect Democrats by whopping huge majorities, while creating carefully crafted GOP districts that consistently vote 53% to 57% GOP.

Statistically speaking, Biden supporters are overrepresented in the polls bc they are more likely to pick up the phone hoping it's their estranged grandchild calling to forgive them for being racist

— Kate Willett (@katewillett) August 17, 2019

Is there anywhere in the country where 'outside of the cities' isn't Tennessee North or worse?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Massachusetts#Results

Er: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Massachusetts#By_county

And the thing about that is Clinton won all of those counties and there are still entire towns in there that are wall-to-wall Trumpville

A reasonably effective first ad. Too bad about the candidate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVrmpp0unPY

misread that as BONERS: Joe Biden for President

Boners for some, miniature American flags for others.

The crazy shoplifter lady running against Ilhan Omar was led out of a Warren rally in handcuffs.

imagining gillibrand sitting alone in her campaign bus bumping jocelyn flores

Kirsten Gillibrand removes XXXTentacion from her campaign playlist.https://t.co/Fa0Y3xw0Dh pic.twitter.com/QUhfa0pJYz

— The FADER (@thefader) August 20, 2019

coward

no that's a good move, XXXTentacion sucks

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/08/19/elizabeth-warren-more-popular-joe-biden-among-demo

lmfao KIRSTEN!🤣🤣🤣

no that's a good move, XXXTentacion sucks

― brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, August 20, 2019 2:26 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

well yeah, never shoulda made it on the playlist in the first place.

It was a song from the Spider-Man soundtrack with a Xxx verse on it

I like the song and all but I'm not an elected official associated with the #metoo movement who is running for President, plus there are better songs on the soundtrack ("What's Up Danger", "Sunflower", "Way Up", "Invincible", "Memories", "Let Go", "Elevate", "Home")

I love when politicians and their consultants look at the 2016 election and come to the conclusion that Hillary's problem was that she didn't dab hard enough and often enough.

many advisers are saying that one more reference to pokemon go could have sealed the deal for the millennial vote

she should've said "pokemon GO to the polls" more tbh

Minority whip, majority nae-nae

lmao

The most Democratic thing imaginable is having a hand-wringing panic about "electability" when the incumbent president struggles to crack 42% approval. https://t.co/qVZ3cKi6S1

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) August 21, 2019

W was in the mid 40s when he got reelected IIRC. Of course, the candidate we put against him was the "electable" one. Meanwhile we collectively sank a more progressive candidate for being excited.

Can we stop repeating that nonsense, please? Dean was beloved by online people and... hardly anyone else, and the online community was much, much smaller in 2004 than it is now.

But I do think that the trauma of 2016 has left democrats in this weird, battered position where they treat Trump almost like he's some kind of supernatural force rather than a candidate that can be defeated like any other. And the "russians" thing dovetails with that nicely -- sinister outside forces beyond our control are at work.

eat off everyone
https://www.eater.com/2019/8/12/20802166/iowa-state-fair-democratic-candidates-2020-eating-corn-dogs-pork-chops

Trump is quite beatable, more so than Bush in 2003-2004.

Yeah I agree at the moment -- hard to say whether his fortunes will rise or fall in the more than one year between now and the election, but for now he looks beatable.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/cl3yE-bXgMhzrmdkrKJ8LUAQ7Fk=/0x0:4140x2760/1720x0/filters:focal(0x0:4140x2760):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/18962703/07_RYAN.jpg

SO NOT GONNA HAPPEN

involuntary lol @ IOWA PORK QUEEN

I mean, god be with her, but you'd think that with the title you'd get training on not pulling that face.

I went to the page to see if that was actually Ryan (it was) and I am now giggling at the smoldering look he's giving the pork dude

The Other White Meat

hard to say whether his fortunes will rise or fall in the more than one year between now and the election

Is it? Is it really? You can look at that 538 polling-average chart day by day. 15 days into his presidency he crossed the line where he was underwater - 44.2% approval, 47.1% disapproval. His highest approval rating ever was on March 12, 2017 - 44.8%. His next peak was 43.1% on October 23, 2018. People hate him, and that's not going to change in the coming year, because they've got three years' worth of reasons to hate him already and to cancel all that out and bring them to his side he would have to do something so massively different from anything he's ever done before - not just as president, but in his entire life, that you might as well just abandon the possibility of it ever happening. He will absolutely go down in history as this country's most hated and incompetent leader; the only question is whether he destroys the entire country on his way out the door, or Budd Dwyers himself in the Oval Office when the election results come in.

Trump is quite beatable, more so than Bush in 2003-2004.

So what you're saying is... Iran invasion, spring 2020.

Inslee tells Rachel Maddow he's dropping out

— A.P. Joyce (@AndrewPaulJoyce) August 22, 2019

Sensible choice by Inslee. Now we need about five more to follow him out.

Too bad. About 10 candidates I’d rather drop out before him.

Same here. But he was going nowhere and could see the writing on the wall. A national campaign needs a national campaign organization and that was not happening for him.