2020 Democratic presidential primary

all these limited government, 10 basic laws guys are mostly just concerned about their stash of child porn and why age of consent laws exist.

I blame reddit

Ha -- I just wrote about a woman in a similar dilemma: teenage son flirting with white supremacist views. Andrew Sullivan mocked her.

Uh oh, Warren and Sanders are too extreme, had to vote Trump, lol.

Are these people for real?

they are completely real

thankfully most of them seem to live in the UK though

maybe we can go back to the early 2000s

State university tuition was 1/3-1/2 then what it was now, and I think it is important to remind people of that, that affordable higher ed wasn't something from way back in boomers' early adulthood and an utterly different economy, it's something the older millennials had!

more of this pls

We will go to war with White Nationalism. pic.twitter.com/HVtDI0eweQ

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) August 17, 2019

Good stuff

Mom's basement Libertarians are the fuckin worst

Biden at a Cape Cod fundraiser tonight: “There’s an awful lot of really good Republicans out there. I get in trouble for saying that with Democrats, but...every time we ever got in trouble with our administration, remember who got sent up to Capitol Hill to fix it? Me.”

— Matt Viser (@mviser) August 18, 2019

this article is infuriating: https://theintercept.com/2019/06/24/joe-biden-tax-cuts-mitch-mconnell/

the cros has spoken

Biden really worries me Democratic Party picks him We will lose 4 more years of this shithead and we are dead as a free country

— David Crosby (@thedavidcrosby) August 17, 2019

Okay Bernie has definitely learned some lessons from 2016

Wow @ the number of comments interpreting that video as meaning Bernie Sanders plans to wage war against white people.

if ur a white nationalist, i guess thats true

Has he said what sorts of executive orders he has in mind to combat the racial disparities he mentions?

Yeah I love Bernie but he’s still saying no to eliminating the filibuster right? Hard to take a lot of his plans seriously until he changes his tune on that

drone-striking nascar events iirc

Can't filibuster the dronez

Sanders + Warren should just team up, idc what order, feel like that's the best shot against Trump. idea that VP needs to be a stabilizing force (i.e. a tomato can from the midwest) is obsolete imo. just go for it, they're the only ones that can win. Biden is an embarrassment, Harris will never get over her prosecutorial record (plus, as far as electability, black woman), and everyone else is way behind. Buttigieg is the Obama candidate, young, novel (gay), excellent speaker w/o being specific at all, but he's going nowhere bc of homophobia in the black community.

I agree with the Croz... so far Bush 43 is still much worse than Trump, but another 4 years? Dystopia fast

Where are you getting stats about Buttigieg and black voters?

2 days ago from SC

Black voters comprise more than 60 percent of South Carolina’s Democratic electorate. But an overwhelming majority of African Americans — 79 percent, according to a recent Pew study — also identify as Christians, which some church leaders note can contribute to internal strife between their religious convictions and how they feel about a gay candidate, if they think doctrine says it’s wrong.

“I’m interested to see how Buttigieg is going to play,” said Darby, saying that the mayor “does the best job of articulating his faith of any of the candidates” but is inherently running up against barriers with those to whom he’s still an unknown. “The most damning comment was at a clergy breakfast, and when his name was brought up another guy said, ‘Yeah, that’s the guy who kissed his husband on TV.’”

Jon Black, an AME pastor along South Carolina’s coast in Bluffton, said that he presumes the church will ultimately move past any divisions over homosexuality and same-sex marriage, as it did previously with divorce.

“If we can get in a time machine and go down the road 25 years, I think the issue would be resolved,” Black said. “It may take us 25 years to make that turn, but we’ve always supported the disinherited, disenfranchised. ... We’ve got to stand with those people who may be the most threatened.”

The church as a whole may not make that change anytime soon, but Black said he didn’t feel that the issue of Buttigieg’s sexuality would override his support if his policy positions prove strong.

“If it gets down to two or three candidates and one happens to be gay, I don’t think that would be a problem for black communities,” Black said.

Have you looked at Iowa polls?

no

I still think Harris is the most electable precisely because she’s a black woman but her campaign just can’t seem to get off the ground. She already seems to have squandered all of her momentum from the first debate.

It’s well known that the A-A community only ditched Hillary for Obama once it became clear the latter had a legit shot. I wonder if Harris ever gets to that threshold...and we all know who the Hillary is in 2020.

Sanders + Warren

Warren + Castro seems the most attractive combo for leveraging anti-Trump sentiment and Latino awakening to the GOP's nativist agenda into a decadal progressive majority. The two have the lowest negatives of any candidates among Democratic primary voters. Texas is in play.

"Texas is in play" gives me bad flashbacks to 2016 "Arizona is in play" and makes me want to just say, win Pennsylvania and win Wisconsin, those are eminently winnable states where Dems won statewide elections in 2018 and where there are lots of super-energized liberals, and if a Democrat wins those two states they probably win. (But I see no particular reason Warren + Castro wouldn't do as well there as anybody else would.)

Also, Sanders adds little to a Warren ticket. Another white progressive from New England.

I'm fairly certain Wisconsin and probably Pennsylvania are back in the Dem column.

Wisconsin polling is pretty dire, you guys. Outside of Madison and Milwaukee, it's turned into Tennessee North.

they swung things for evers as gov

There's a lot of concerning data here: https://crooked.com/articles/pollercoaster-2020-whats-happening-wisconsin/

Wisconsin polling is pretty dire, you guys. Outside of Madison and Milwaukee, it's turned into Tennessee North.

In November 2018, Evers won 9 of the 10 biggest cities in the state. Green Bay? Evers won. Wausau? Evers won. Appleton? Evers won. Oskhosh and Sheboygan too. These places aren't in Madison and Milwaukee. If it's a place in Wisconsin people outside of Wisconsin have heard of, Evers won it in 2018. And of course Tammy Baldwin won all those places by even larger margins.

That's not to say Trump can't win Wisconsin! He did once! But I think it's absurd to think of the northern 2/3 of the state as solid Republican (remember, the biggest source of GOP votes here isn't the north, it's the Milwaukee suburbs.) And I think it's absurd to call the situation "dire." I would call it what I'd call just about every statewide race here: "competitive."

Yeah nothing in that data really shocked me or struck me as "dire." If anything Democrats have stopped the bleeding and gained a little ground.

I'm just a handwringer maybe.

I'm a handwringer too, but my concerns are the voter suppression and Russian hacking.

Wisconsin polling is pretty dire, you guys. Outside of Madison and Milwaukee, it's turned into Tennessee North.

Is there anywhere in the country where 'outside of the cities' isn't Tennessee North or worse?

Now that a good 70% or more of the US population lives in urban/suburban areas, and the Democratic base tilts heavily toward urban areas, it truly is the golden age of GOP gerrymandering. In dozens of states it's child's play to create compact districts that elect Democrats by whopping huge majorities, while creating carefully crafted GOP districts that consistently vote 53% to 57% GOP.

Statistically speaking, Biden supporters are overrepresented in the polls bc they are more likely to pick up the phone hoping it's their estranged grandchild calling to forgive them for being racist

— Kate Willett (@katewillett) August 17, 2019

Is there anywhere in the country where 'outside of the cities' isn't Tennessee North or worse?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Massachusetts#Results

Er: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Massachusetts#By_county

And the thing about that is Clinton won all of those counties and there are still entire towns in there that are wall-to-wall Trumpville

A reasonably effective first ad. Too bad about the candidate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVrmpp0unPY

misread that as BONERS: Joe Biden for President

Boners for some, miniature American flags for others.

The crazy shoplifter lady running against Ilhan Omar was led out of a Warren rally in handcuffs.

imagining gillibrand sitting alone in her campaign bus bumping jocelyn flores

Kirsten Gillibrand removes XXXTentacion from her campaign playlist.https://t.co/Fa0Y3xw0Dh pic.twitter.com/QUhfa0pJYz

— The FADER (@thefader) August 20, 2019

coward