2020 Democratic presidential primary

not everybody loves a shouty grandpa

― Οὖτις, Friday, August 16, 2019

where is the thread where we nominate new borad descriptions?

Right but they don’t have in mind Bernie’s supposed infractions on may 2016 xxp

there is a general feeling that he "hurt" Clinton in 2016

I think he did and frankly it wasn't worth it

He definitely did. Whether or not it was worth it to change the conversation (which he also definitely did) up for debate. Those harmed most and most directly by the current administration might have some thoughts on eggs and omelettes.

I’m saying that feeling that he hurt Clinton may seem general but is not held by a large absolute number of people and doesn’t explain his high unfavourables in polling.

I’m also saying: the discussion of the merits of that view is one of the worst things we do on this website.

yeah I feel stupid for wading into it already

eh it’s worth putting to bed

Maybe write about it in the new republic?

nah, just keep drinking every time he says CORPORATIONS or WALL STREET

Unfortunately, some people's fever dreams are perpetually haunted by the Clinton's, so we come back to this again and again.

shouty = being an old Jew from Brooklyn

w/out Clintons and Bushes, the US would be a candyland paradise

eh it’s worth putting to bed

I don't think there's enough (or any) evidence to say that his candidacy or campaign "definitely" hurt Clinton in a statistically measurable way; nor do I don't think it was a dirty or unfair campaign by the standards of US primaries in a way that might justify a view of him as some sort of troublemaker/saboteur.

less dirty than clinton's campaign against obama. as i have posted on this website about 100 times already

Y'all crazy if you think a significant portion of his negatives aren't people who actively blame him for 2016.

Obama reportedly warned Biden about 2020: "You don’t have to do this, Joe" https://t.co/sKt165VdeE

— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) August 16, 2019

beginning to wonder what happens to the #s if, let's just say hypothetically, Biden had to drop out

well, his legacy isn't appreciably damaged in my eyes

Wishful thinking

xp

to blame for temporary Biden image rehab: the neolib war criminal rock star Himself

Morbs Mad Libs

Wishful thinking

Well, yeah.

Re me earlier point, I will say this, Daniel Biss endorsed Warren and his Twitter mentions are about half supportive and half people who are mad at him, and the people who are mad at him are like 30% Bernie diehards and 70% Yang Gang, so who even knows anymore

Ladies and gents, your Washington press corps:

Two women in a Michigan cul-de-sac fret over the Democrats’ leftward lurch and another Trump term -- a warning sign for Bernie & Warren et al via @wpjenna & @GregJaffe https://t.co/fTeY4ljJ7s

— Philip Rucker (@PhilipRucker) August 17, 2019

mmmm, love that anecdata

bernie and warren should definitely be worried about two beckys in a cul-de-sac rather than, oh i dunno, the tens of millions of americans who chose not to vote in 2016

I thought that was an onion headline

why can't we just tie a rope between universal healthcare and our openly corrupt white nationalist administration and their enabling republican pals? then we can mark the point exactly in the center of the rope, saw it in half. that's where i want my new president to be. split the difference of the two, right in the center. but leaning toward the right. and then the new president calls out to the representatives of the two positions where the rope is tied off - "hey you there! and you, over there! come, untie your halves of the rope and meet me here in the center. for we will get more done if we join our ropes again in a cooperative manner and "cut the ties" to our partisan past, new friends."

also I love that “beckys” has gone transatlantic

we can't go back to the 50s. that time is gone. but maybe we can go back to the early 2000s

No thx

Skinny jeans have been the most reassuring of fashion reappraisals/revivals.

in a way we are all in a Michigan cul-de-sac

I was thinking more politically. Dubya was worse than Trump tbh.

some of these people are in a mental ponzi scheme with only themselves.

This was by far the best mab-libsian

Weston was in the family room with her 19-year-old son, Connor Dopke, who was home from college and playing video games.

Dopke was steering his video game motorcycle down a digital mountain trail and sharing his limited-government philosophy with his mother. The country, he said, could get by just fine with just 10 basic laws. All the others, establishing things such as the minimum wage, Medicaid and Medicare, were unnecessary. He even doubted the need for Social Security.

“Oh, honey, now you’re worrying me,” his mother said.

The two briefly discussed affirmative action. Her son said it was unnecessary and “another form of racism.”

Karl, are you saying we can't build a bridge to the 20th century

hey good job, you raised a classic dipshit xp

Bernie & Warren have been "warned" more than hockey enforcers

you two had better start talking like centrist surveillance-lovin' technocrats RIGHT NOW

all these limited government, 10 basic laws guys are mostly just concerned about their stash of child porn and why age of consent laws exist.

I blame reddit

Ha -- I just wrote about a woman in a similar dilemma: teenage son flirting with white supremacist views. Andrew Sullivan mocked her.

Uh oh, Warren and Sanders are too extreme, had to vote Trump, lol.

Are these people for real?

they are completely real

thankfully most of them seem to live in the UK though

maybe we can go back to the early 2000s

State university tuition was 1/3-1/2 then what it was now, and I think it is important to remind people of that, that affordable higher ed wasn't something from way back in boomers' early adulthood and an utterly different economy, it's something the older millennials had!

more of this pls

We will go to war with White Nationalism. pic.twitter.com/HVtDI0eweQ

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) August 17, 2019

Good stuff

Mom's basement Libertarians are the fuckin worst

Biden at a Cape Cod fundraiser tonight: “There’s an awful lot of really good Republicans out there. I get in trouble for saying that with Democrats, but...every time we ever got in trouble with our administration, remember who got sent up to Capitol Hill to fix it? Me.”

— Matt Viser (@mviser) August 18, 2019