""trolling""- has the meaning changed?

you will ofc be aware that in such a designation the other variable is the observer's capacity for befuddlement

allow me to further muddy water by suggesting an advance troll technique:

the observer so puzzled by whether or not something is a troll or not that any third party onlooker (and indeed the original subject, the suspected troll themselves) might wonder whether or not the perplexed-possible-trollée is not infact a faux-trolled-troll

fuckit mordy got in there

lol tim

i think to troll one must be on at least some level intending to troll, so i disagree nv

we shall, possibly, have to lurk under that bridge when we come to it

For there to be trolling, intent is paramount. Except, of course, the most successful specimens rely on the trollee's structural inability to reliably decipher the troll's exact intentions. In other words, the best trolling may or may not be an instance of trolling at all.

Apologies for restating the obvious.

xps

Feel like an essential component of trolling is the ethos that self-amusement/-satisfaction > comity.

eh yes and no

the intent is from the pov of the troll and therefore, while it can be unknown from outside, it can never have an actual value of unknown

xp

Necessary but not sufficient, my criterion.

'What if the troll doesn't know that he's trolling?'

– Donald Rumsfeld

was socrates a troll? what if yr asking a disingenuous question meant to provoke someone's assumption bc you believe there's value to be extracted from the conflict even if you don't necessarily 100% believe yr method of provocation inherently (asking questions etc)

but the person intent upon behaving as if each new item in the world that does not please then were a troll, the trollée-näif if you will, what are we to make of this particular subtroll?

I think we're overlooking the possibility of Manchurian trolls

like if that's trolling then trolling is an excellent thing we need more of but if trolling is more like disingenuously pissing ppl off for your own amusement and with no intellectual goal or intent then i agree it's v bad + a waste of time u kno

It is that really inasmuch as there's a platonic form of the troll

Trolling can be undertaken for purposes of self-amusement and pedagogy, i.e. one can troll for the sake of a purportedly greater cause. It is not inherently nihilistic.

how can we know the troller from the troll

But of course intellectual goals can muddy a lot of ground, it's troll's all the way down lads

that is, note, the second yeats ref this past half hour and better content than is deserved

trolléd

look around the table. if you cant see the obvious troll, it's you

Like a long-legged troll upon the stream
His mind moves upon silence.

two trolls, both beautiful, one a placebo

Q: is this trolling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0LY0I5bLA

Those masterful images because complete
Grew in pure mind but out of what began?

(Tip: out of trolling.)

the best lack all conviction while the worst are full of passionate intensity

^ good to know about trolls

true

When i used to do it, there was both an entertainment purpose and a didactic purpose

exemplary imo

truelling

yes:
https://www.ancient.eu/img/r/p/500x600/1258.jpg

I raise you:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fb/5f/67/fb5f6762cf620691aee85bfdca8e7e63.jpg

Terrible craftsmanship, though.

i dont understand the latest posts

is this trolling

am i being trolled by socks

Is this trolling?

Diogenes received an invitation to dine with one whose house was splendidly furnished, in the highest order and taste, and nothing therein wanting. Diogenes, hawking, and as if about to spit, looked in all directions, and finding nothing adapted thereto, spat right in the face of the master. He, indignant, asked why he did so? "Because," Diogenes, "I saw nothing so dirty and filthy in all your house. For the walls were covered with pictures, the floors of the most precious tessellated character — and ranged with the various images of gods, and other ornamental figures."

is jt tho

i dont understand it. it must be trolling. a sock trolling me.

What about this?

When [Diogenes of Sinope] was sold as a slave, he endured it most nobly. For on a voyage to Aegina he was captured by pirates under the command of Scirpalus, conveyed to Crete and exposed for sale. When the auctioneer asked in what he was proficient, he replied, "In ruling men." Thereupon he pointed to a certain Corinthian with a fine purple border to his robe, the man named Xeniades above-mentioned, and said, “Sell me to this man; he needs a master.”

it doesnt seem to be about me at all

is it trolling

What is hell? Hell is oneself.
Hell is alone, the other trolls in it
Merely projections. There is nothing to escape from
And nothing to escape to. One is always alone.

why am i alone why would people leave me alone are they trolling me

Dip your eyes into his. Do you see yourself? What do you perceive?

https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.1749249.1396545171!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg

?

That neither our Thoughts, nor Passions, nor Ideas formed by the Imagination, exist without the Mind, is what every Body will allow. And it seems no less evident that the various Sensations or Ideas imprinted on the Sense, however blended or combined together (that is, whatever Objects they compose) cannot exist otherwise than in a Mind perceiving them. I think an intuitive Knowledge may be obtained of this, by any one that shall attend to what is meant by the Term Exist when applied to sensible Things. The Table I write on, I say, exists, that is, I see and feel it; and if I were out of my Study I should say it existed, meaning thereby that if I was in my Study I might perceive it, or that some other Spirit actually does perceive it. There was an Odor, that is, it was smelled; There was a Sound, that is to say, it was heard; a Colour or Figure, and it was perceived by Sight or Touch. This is all that I can understand by these and the like Expressions. For as to what is said of the absolute Existence of unthinking Things without any relation to their being perceived, that seems perfectly unintelligible. Their Esse is Percipi, nor is it possible they should have any Existence, out of the Minds or thinking Things which perceive them.

Goddammit Rhonda

trawling

https://writingexplained.org/trawling-vs-trolling-difference

i wont be trawsplained thks

has anyone heard from rhonda since

Re: has anyone heard from rhonda since

I will be out of the office through Labor Day weekend. I am going to Burning Man for the first time!

Namaste,
Rhonda

A lot of Zen koans seem like didactic trolling to me (see: the Zen Assholes thread).