they’ve done the calculation that says NDB looks increasingly inevitable + they will get 100% cover in the media so think they can emerge from all of this without blood on their hands. not sure it will play out how they expect
― im led by donky (||||||||), Thursday, 15 August 2019 07:36 (six years ago)
I mean if you need some idea of how good faith the arguments are?
Whatever misgivings other parties or groups of MPs have with @jeremycorbyn’s letter, surely the priority is stopping no deal? That alone should be reason enough for them to sit down together, talk and thrash out a plan. The national interest must come first.— Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) August 15, 2019
― gyac, Thursday, 15 August 2019 07:37 (six years ago)
xp not the first fucking time they’ve been wrong recently now is it? Anyway all their heroes have blood on their hands, so they know it doesn’t prevent you being considered a good person.
― gyac, Thursday, 15 August 2019 07:38 (six years ago)
windmill QC appears to oppose this proposal because it would stop the UK government from going to war with iran
― im led by donky (||||||||), Thursday, 15 August 2019 07:41 (six years ago)
I mean all these cunts want afaict is for Tony to ride up on a white horse, pause to brush some of the dried blood off his hands, and usher in a new era of sensible politics where they can go back to not thinking about it apart from once every few years. That’s the problem with Corbyn and all this stuff; it’s just so messy.
― gyac, Thursday, 15 August 2019 07:41 (six years ago)
A former friend (I’ll leave you to work out her identity) who is a privately educated, Oxbridge, BAME feminist - and with her considerable platform eg doing the papers on Sky - never defended others’ rights to the free education she received when the Coalition government raised fees, or stood up for the victims of austerity, is now obsessively Tweeting about her pro-Remain stance and also how she’s a lifelong Labour voter blah blah blah who sees no other option but to vote Lib Dem, as she did in 2017. She even threw in a ‘politically homeless’ for good measure. Honestly, do they catch this itis in green rooms?
― suzy, Thursday, 15 August 2019 07:42 (six years ago)
xp did you see how the Guardian called him a windmill “enthusiast”? Definitely someone who’s read a bit of left Twitter.
― gyac, Thursday, 15 August 2019 07:42 (six years ago)
I believe the accepted nomenclature is “windmill shagger”
― im led by donky (||||||||), Thursday, 15 August 2019 07:45 (six years ago)
I mean would it be churlish to point out that MPs have already had several opportunities to prevent No Deal by voting through the original deal? There are obvious political reasons why they didn't but they will look laughably trivial if we go over the cliff, and if we do it will be everyone's fault.
Stephen Bush typically clear headed on what's going on here: https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2019/08/jeremy-corbyn-playing-politics-over-unity-government-so-everyone-else
― Matt DC, Thursday, 15 August 2019 07:46 (six years ago)
sure there may be an element of political positioning but the time limitation indicates he's not trying to turn the country into a Trotskyite hellscape thru the back door and all things considered his offer would be the most effective way currently possible of spiking Johnson's gov and putting the option of ref 2 to the electorate
― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 07:52 (six years ago)
i.e. yeah he's politicking but he's politicking from a position of genuine compromise not just acting the cunt like every other cunt
― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 07:53 (six years ago)
Congratulations to the Reds and well played to Chelsea. I can’t cope with many more penalty shoot outs though lads. https://t.co/5HFRbKoF6f— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) August 14, 2019
― gyac, Thursday, 15 August 2019 07:59 (six years ago)
I would love to support Corbyn but, sadly, it's not viable
― ogmor, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:13 (six years ago)
Because extending article 50 and calling for a second referendum is tankie speak for 'no deal' and 'sabotaging the economy', unlike what the Tories are doing right now.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:16 (six years ago)
this is the spite that counts
― ogmor, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:23 (six years ago)
Wait, is McDonnell a Chelse
― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:26 (six years ago)
https://brightcove04pmdo-a.akamaihd.net/4221396001/4221396001_5140173581001_5140164761001-vs.jpg
― ogmor, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:28 (six years ago)
While I’m looking for the tweet of Johnny Mc watching his beloved Liverpool on the phone at a conference, I turned up this gem.
Loving that Anna Soubry is on her phone rather than listening to John McDonnell #Peston— John Crace (@JohnJCrace) February 27, 2019
― gyac, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:31 (six years ago)
the grown-ups in the room
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:36 (six years ago)
PUNCHLINE
Talk among LibDems that not all their MPs are as hardline against working with Labour as Swinson last night. Some see it as inevitable they will have to deal with Corbyn to stop no deal, but Chuka Umunna is resisting. Would obviously be personally difficult for him— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) August 15, 2019
― Matt DC, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:38 (six years ago)
I'm posting normally as I always do - all I said was "The stated obstacle to working with him is that he can't bring the Labour Party to the table, which seems self-evidently true?" and that's all I meant - I wish it weren't so!
xp looking forward to the Lib Dems rolling up to the eventual Labour talks with Chuka strapped to the front of the bus.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:41 (six years ago)
look at this fucking dipshit in the comments
The trouble is that Corbyn wants a Labour Brexit and the Lib Dems want to Stop Brexit. You can't unite to do opposite things. Corbyn needs to move to a possition in common with the other opposition parties.— Colin Green 🔶️ (@ColinGreenLD) August 15, 2019
― (Appears only as a corpse) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:42 (six years ago)
if we could weaponize Corbyn's apparent invisibility to these mugs it could have some kind of military application
― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:45 (six years ago)
'possition', i.e. a positional posse?
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:45 (six years ago)
If Corbyn can’t command the support of the PLP, they should put up a candidate. They’re so mad ordinary members have a say.
Corbyn: ‘Labour is a broad church and it can be broader still. I appointed John McDonnell, and he’s a Liverpool fan.’ #lab18— Chris Mason (@ChrisMasonBBC) September 26, 2018
― gyac, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:45 (six years ago)
xp he’s confusing it with the piss diamond, which he bears in his dn
― gyac, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:47 (six years ago)
The Ash/Jude wing is also Spurs.
― suzy, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:47 (six years ago)
*corbyn offers the opportunity for opposition parties to work together to stop no-deal and roll out a second referendum*WAH JURMY CORBETT WANTS A LABOUR BREXIT GUESS IT’S GONNA HAVE TO BE NO-DEAL
― (Appears only as a corpse) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:48 (six years ago)
Hoey supports a completely made up team in her own head but they do beat Red Star Belgrussels in the UEFA Cup every season.
― nashwan, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:49 (six years ago)
lol we're you're all going to die and me too, a little bit
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:49 (six years ago)
On second thought, that's just how our reptilian overlords speak.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:52 (six years ago)
the membership should have VONC’d corbyn when he tweeted something conciliatory towards spurs that one time
― im led by donky (||||||||), Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:52 (six years ago)
Hoey once tried to lobby Parliament to get Spurs kicked out of the First Division, as was.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:54 (six years ago)
you people are getting football in my beloved politics thread again
― (Appears only as a corpse) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:55 (six years ago)
Wonder what Hoey’s problem with Spurs would be 🙃
― gyac, Thursday, 15 August 2019 08:58 (six years ago)
Meanwhile, the classy upper-class is tweeting as it normally does:
Freak yachting accidents do happen in August ... https://t.co/6CPePHYLtu— Arron Banks (@Arron_banks) August 14, 2019
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:02 (six years ago)
reported that evil fucker's evil tweet
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:03 (six years ago)
then get on a yacht, banksy, and we’ll all cross our fingers
― (Appears only as a corpse) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:03 (six years ago)
wishing death on teenage girls, extremely normal stuff
― (Appears only as a corpse) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:04 (six years ago)
Fucking sociopath.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:04 (six years ago)
You don't need to make up bullshit excuses* for Swinson in the first place, but especially when there are other ones like are their coalition dealings last time or the final straw for May as being her offer to work with Corbyn and Labour. The fact is Corbyn would bring the majority of the party with him, and with LDs, SNP, and enough Tory rebels we'd be in a general election with the Tories campaigning on No Deal.
*Not sure as to what Caroline Lucas' excuse is but like gyac said last night she will probably come around.
Corbyn is condescended to a lot but as last night shows Corbyn can be a pretty smart political operator. Haven't read the Bush piece but the sub-headline to it is good - he is being asked to make that sacrifice and he has potentially turned around on the people asking him.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:05 (six years ago)
to be put out of joint very soon: Chuka's nose, hopefully following a Swinson u-turn. Love following this tragic clown's epic journey from potential LOTO to marginal joke LibDem figure who will soon be minus a constituency.
― calzino, Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:09 (six years ago)
One of the Corbyn sons is a coach at Watford and we all know about Barry Gardiner Jr
― gyac, Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:10 (six years ago)
corbyn has basically conceded to the right of the party, this is the time they are least likely to oppose him. it's all going alarmingly exactly as predicted
― ogmor, Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:11 (six years ago)
Don't know who this imbecile is and trying (not hard enough) to not do this but
Tom Doran@portraitinfleshA question that's often asked: what actual threat would a Corbyn-led government pose to Jews? Well, as I've said before, nobody thinks it'd mean gas chambers. But it would nevertheless be an epochal tragedy for British Jews.
Tom Doran@portraitinfleshWhy? Well, consider how many people of colour feel about Boris Johnson as PM. It's less to do with specific policies than the fact that, by putting him in charge, the country is signalling it does not care about your wellbeing.
There it is. Caring about British Jews or British people of colour is the choice - apparently mutually exclusive conditions for us all.
― nashwan, Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:16 (six years ago)
I oppose a no-deal Brexit because it puts jobs at risks, devalues our currency, sees businesses leave the UK, divides society & undermines national security. I oppose a hard left Government under Corbyn for the same reasons. https://t.co/Zp6CxAj0T2— Chris Leslie (@ChrisLeslieMP) August 15, 2019
the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron"— wint (@dril) June 2, 2014
― gyac, Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:17 (six years ago)
xp that’s the guy who describes himself on his profile as a “friend of the Jews” and who said that a dead body is just a collection of molecules so there’s no real reason for necrophilia to be illegal iirc
― gyac, Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:20 (six years ago)
i must have missed the part in his letter to the opposition parties where jammy carparts started he would institute full communism the instant he took the reins of power instead of, y’know, concentrating on stopping no-deal like the majority of the country wants
― (Appears only as a corpse) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:21 (six years ago)
These people are clearly apter at sniffing out subtext than we are.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:23 (six years ago)
The nerve of these loser cunts to say they'd consider working with Labour if Corbyn stepped down. OK then, make McDonnell leader, how d'ye like them apples?
― Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:25 (six years ago)