PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

i mean obv failed to clear draft in zing cache.

brexit is one big grift
https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/by-donkeys

This stuff about Johnson calling an election before October 31: how does that work with the FTPA?

brexit now has its own meter data

LD response to this (“corbyn’s at it”) looks ill judged when set against the SNP’s (“we will work with labour to bring down this terrible tory govt and avoid no deal”)

xp needs two thirds of HoC to vote for dissolving parliament, which it will.

As I’ve said in previous threads, the wilfully and genuinely ignorant FBPE heads will get us all killed. People out there, even now, peddling shite about “Corbyn wants no deal” and “never Corbyn” even as there is talk of the actual government suspending parliament and trying to secure medicine supplies, are all wreckers and should be treated as such.

First sighting of Coalition Of Chaos on Newsnight last night - only from some ERG neanderthal but nonetheless...

As I’ve said in previous threads, the wilfully and genuinely ignorant FBPE heads will get us all killed. People out there, even now, peddling shite about “Corbyn wants no deal” and “never Corbyn” e/ven as there is talk of the actual government suspending parliament and trying to secure medicine supplies/, are all wreckers and should be treated as such.

corbyn, leader of the major opposition party as put before the electorate, too divisive to work with to avoid a disastrous outcome championed by boris, jrm and nigel farage.

the absolute lack of even a passable cover story is striking

It’s astonishing

I know at this point I shouldn’t be surprised by the arrant unabashed fuckery but I am

a spectre is haunting parliament

I can’t imagine change uk types or some independent MPs like Austin, Boles, Woodcock etc voting for an election, but their votes aren’t necessary. 13 MPs voted against last time.

N/m, Boles isn’t going to stand next time.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_United_Kingdom_general_election

Joromy Corbin is to blame for no deal by not making way for some West Wing bullshit. What’s 13 million votes compared to the stuff these fools conjure up in their heads?

WHY WON’T JEMRY COBRA GIVE US WHAT WE WANT
*corbyn gives them what they want*
THIS IS BULLSHIT, WE CHOOSE OBLIVION

I'm not certain you really understand what a grift is, comrade zebra? Asking for a specific amount to do a specific thing and being oversubscribed doesn't really cover it.

LDs are pursuing a “we are cleanskins” inherit the ruins strategy

This feels like an obvious stunt by Corbyn and an effective one at that - he obviously knew they were going to turn it down and it pours water on the bonfire of all that banal rainbow coalition stuff. They say they want Corbyn to work with the Remain side but clearly they don't.

It might be spun back to him now as "Corbyn won't stand down for the national good, it's Corbyn or no deal" but a lot of this is just tedious personal brand building while Rome burns.

It's all irrelevant when you only need a small number of Tory MPs to quit to kill No Deal. Something they appear strangely reluctant to do.

Phil McDuff has been good on this stuff:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/13/caroline-lucas-no-deal-brexit-corbyn-green-party-labour?CMP

“engage in petty or small-scale swindling.”

you’re right - the wallet inspecting is not by any measure small scale

Corbyn’s personal beliefs on Brexit are presented as the obstacle to working with him, but this contradicts the omnipresence of Yvette Cooper in every Stop Brexit fantasy proposal. Cooper’s position on Brexit is barely distinguishable from Corbyn’s

this needs repeating a thousand times to some of these fucking lame melts.

AIUi leavers don't really want to leave and remainers don't really want to remain, but I can't tell if both want to ride a grievance wave of having lost, or feel the buzz of fighting the battle in perpetuity

The stated obstacle to working with him is that he can't bring the Labour Party to the table, which seems self-evidently true?

yet these m/c nuggets gaslight the labour membership and delude their own followers that “jeremy is a brexiteer” who wants to inherit the ruins, despite the fact that he is the only credible political actor who has worked at every opportunity to try find a way to mitigate the worst potential excesses stemming from the democratically expressed will of GBP. they won’t take yes for an answer

so... if you’re so opposed to no deal why not support him if that’s the case? if his proposition is so destined to fail where’s the downside for the LDs? you could point to labour and say “they are a shambles and they did brexit”. except... how has the labour whipping operation performed so far on brexit votes? that’s why they’re rattled

xp

xp but I thought all of those MPs all opposed no deal? Surely they should be able to see how the numbers go and realise there aren’t numbers to do anything without Corbyn? Almost as if that argument was about getting Corbyn out without a mandate from the relevant electorates...? 🤔

He also represents de facto a far larger slice of the electorate than any of the cunts fixated on their entirely personal dislike of him

Jeryim Crobny, with your insistence on standing against a no deal in which people will suffer and die needlessly,,,,,,, you have made it impossible for me to support your time-limited government

they’ve done the calculation that says NDB looks increasingly inevitable + they will get 100% cover in the media so think they can emerge from all of this without blood on their hands. not sure it will play out how they expect

I mean if you need some idea of how good faith the arguments are?

Whatever misgivings other parties or groups of MPs have with @jeremycorbyn’s letter, surely the priority is stopping no deal? That alone should be reason enough for them to sit down together, talk and thrash out a plan. The national interest must come first.

— Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) August 15, 2019

xp not the first fucking time they’ve been wrong recently now is it? Anyway all their heroes have blood on their hands, so they know it doesn’t prevent you being considered a good person.

windmill QC appears to oppose this proposal because it would stop the UK government from going to war with iran

I mean all these cunts want afaict is for Tony to ride up on a white horse, pause to brush some of the dried blood off his hands, and usher in a new era of sensible politics where they can go back to not thinking about it apart from once every few years. That’s the problem with Corbyn and all this stuff; it’s just so messy.

A former friend (I’ll leave you to work out her identity) who is a privately educated, Oxbridge, BAME feminist - and with her considerable platform eg doing the papers on Sky - never defended others’ rights to the free education she received when the Coalition government raised fees, or stood up for the victims of austerity, is now obsessively Tweeting about her pro-Remain stance and also how she’s a lifelong Labour voter blah blah blah who sees no other option but to vote Lib Dem, as she did in 2017. She even threw in a ‘politically homeless’ for good measure. Honestly, do they catch this itis in green rooms?

xp did you see how the Guardian called him a windmill “enthusiast”? Definitely someone who’s read a bit of left Twitter.

I believe the accepted nomenclature is “windmill shagger”

I mean would it be churlish to point out that MPs have already had several opportunities to prevent No Deal by voting through the original deal? There are obvious political reasons why they didn't but they will look laughably trivial if we go over the cliff, and if we do it will be everyone's fault.

Stephen Bush typically clear headed on what's going on here: https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2019/08/jeremy-corbyn-playing-politics-over-unity-government-so-everyone-else

sure there may be an element of political positioning but the time limitation indicates he's not trying to turn the country into a Trotskyite hellscape thru the back door and all things considered his offer would be the most effective way currently possible of spiking Johnson's gov and putting the option of ref 2 to the electorate

i.e. yeah he's politicking but he's politicking from a position of genuine compromise not just acting the cunt like every other cunt

Congratulations to the Reds and well played to Chelsea. I can’t cope with many more penalty shoot outs though lads. https://t.co/5HFRbKoF6f

— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) August 14, 2019

I would love to support Corbyn but, sadly, it's not viable

Because extending article 50 and calling for a second referendum is tankie speak for 'no deal' and 'sabotaging the economy', unlike what the Tories are doing right now.

this is the spite that counts

Wait, is McDonnell a Chelse

https://brightcove04pmdo-a.akamaihd.net/4221396001/4221396001_5140173581001_5140164761001-vs.jpg

While I’m looking for the tweet of Johnny Mc watching his beloved Liverpool on the phone at a conference, I turned up this gem.

Loving that Anna Soubry is on her phone rather than listening to John McDonnell #Peston

— John Crace (@JohnJCrace) February 27, 2019

the grown-ups in the room

PUNCHLINE

Talk among LibDems that not all their MPs are as hardline against working with Labour as Swinson last night. Some see it as inevitable they will have to deal with Corbyn to stop no deal, but Chuka Umunna is resisting. Would obviously be personally difficult for him

— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) August 15, 2019

I'm posting normally as I always do - all I said was "The stated obstacle to working with him is that he can't bring the Labour Party to the table, which seems self-evidently true?" and that's all I meant - I wish it weren't so!

xp looking forward to the Lib Dems rolling up to the eventual Labour talks with Chuka strapped to the front of the bus.

look at this fucking dipshit in the comments

The trouble is that Corbyn wants a Labour Brexit and the Lib Dems want to Stop Brexit. You can't unite to do opposite things. Corbyn needs to move to a possition in common with the other opposition parties.

— Colin Green 🔶️ (@ColinGreenLD) August 15, 2019

if we could weaponize Corbyn's apparent invisibility to these mugs it could have some kind of military application