PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

The allegedly reasonable 'adults in the room' decline a perfectly reasonable proposal.

🤔

Fuck the libdems, the absence of realpolitik is staggering. Corbyn’s ability to sneak a socialist utopia bill through parliament with a Shanley caretaker coalition seems pretty minimal.

yes i believe it's put up or shut up time

so far so predictable. None of the tories that vote for these cunts in the next election will remember this pathetic intransigence that will probably help to lead to a NDB endgame. It will all be Corbyn's fault for having a centre left manifesto. It illustrates to me that the LibDem commitment to austerity and party self-interest totally outweighs their brexit concerns and has always has done because they are like a fucking tory stick of rock. It's embarrassing to see a one-issue party who can't even serve that single issue because of TRIBALISM!

otm. the eu has been clear from the beginning that the withdrawal agreement has its shape as a result of the maybot's red lines, and has been equally clear that if those lines changed the WA could change. meatloaf remainers!

Greens say a second referendum must be held *before* a general election

shaking my fucking head and can't work out whether this is more stupidity or dishonesty

"YES BUT...." shit what can we say... think, something smart.... think think think, but we have to make sure it could never happen.... think goddamn it

i for one welcome this new phase

feel quietly confident corbyns gonna pull something out of this

It would give Johnson the shortest tenure of any PM, what’s not to like?

be fair we never saw him fully elected

shaking my fucking head and can't work out whether this is more stupidity or dishonesty

Insane centrist logic is quite the thing. Their argument for opposing this idea is that “Corbyn can never be PM.” When asked if they understand that means no deal is extremely likely, they fall back on “Corbyn wants no deal”. Throw in some Yvette “has never supported a 2nd referendum” Cooper fanfic and it’s shit all the way down.

“Other political parties “.
Why did you not write to my party leader @Anna_Soubry ?
Strange way to seek @ForChange_Now support. You might just think this was a meaningless gesture. https://t.co/5DHPovhDzT

— Mike Gapes (@MikeGapes) August 14, 2019

omgggggg

well you're the expert mike

I know people say fuck the polls, but when you are polling an average of between 0% + 1% questions of electoral validity do need to be asked.

1/4 I am disappointed Jeremy Corbyn did not include me in his letter especially as there are five MP members of our party.
Our exclusion and the preference for a General Election rather than an immediate People’s Vote leads me to conclude this is nothing more than a stunt.

— Anna Soubry MP (@Anna_Soubry) August 14, 2019

This is getting exciting!

Wait till parliament comes back in a couple of weeks.

For any passing Americans, this is Mike Gapes

"What's going on in the Commons?" I absolutely do not hear you ask pic.twitter.com/PBqO5R0Btp

— Esther Webber (@estwebber) December 4, 2017

> meatloaf remainers!

I would do anything for Gove, but I won't do that.

This has been fun. Now you get to vote!
The best title for a Brexit-themed rom com is...

— Matina Stevis-Gridneff (@MatinaStevis) August 13, 2019

most* telephone exchange switches are now digital and use speech encoding.

*citation needed - i’m not a telecoms expert by any means.

Insane centrist logic is quite the thing. Their argument for opposing this idea is that “Corbyn can never be PM.” When asked if they understand that means no deal is extremely likely, they fall back on “Corbyn wants no deal”. Throw in some Yvette “has never supported a 2nd referendum” Cooper fanfic and it’s shit all the way down.

“remainer politics” sub “lib dems”

windmill QC and bob pesto with two of the best takes so far

pesto has left the reservation. all over the shop.

fuck me i can talk. where the hell did that telephone exchange stuff come from.

i mean obv failed to clear draft in zing cache.

brexit is one big grift
https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/by-donkeys

This stuff about Johnson calling an election before October 31: how does that work with the FTPA?

brexit now has its own meter data

LD response to this (“corbyn’s at it”) looks ill judged when set against the SNP’s (“we will work with labour to bring down this terrible tory govt and avoid no deal”)

xp needs two thirds of HoC to vote for dissolving parliament, which it will.

As I’ve said in previous threads, the wilfully and genuinely ignorant FBPE heads will get us all killed. People out there, even now, peddling shite about “Corbyn wants no deal” and “never Corbyn” even as there is talk of the actual government suspending parliament and trying to secure medicine supplies, are all wreckers and should be treated as such.

First sighting of Coalition Of Chaos on Newsnight last night - only from some ERG neanderthal but nonetheless...

As I’ve said in previous threads, the wilfully and genuinely ignorant FBPE heads will get us all killed. People out there, even now, peddling shite about “Corbyn wants no deal” and “never Corbyn” e/ven as there is talk of the actual government suspending parliament and trying to secure medicine supplies/, are all wreckers and should be treated as such.

corbyn, leader of the major opposition party as put before the electorate, too divisive to work with to avoid a disastrous outcome championed by boris, jrm and nigel farage.

the absolute lack of even a passable cover story is striking

It’s astonishing

I know at this point I shouldn’t be surprised by the arrant unabashed fuckery but I am

a spectre is haunting parliament

I can’t imagine change uk types or some independent MPs like Austin, Boles, Woodcock etc voting for an election, but their votes aren’t necessary. 13 MPs voted against last time.

N/m, Boles isn’t going to stand next time.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_United_Kingdom_general_election

Joromy Corbin is to blame for no deal by not making way for some West Wing bullshit. What’s 13 million votes compared to the stuff these fools conjure up in their heads?

WHY WON’T JEMRY COBRA GIVE US WHAT WE WANT
*corbyn gives them what they want*
THIS IS BULLSHIT, WE CHOOSE OBLIVION

I'm not certain you really understand what a grift is, comrade zebra? Asking for a specific amount to do a specific thing and being oversubscribed doesn't really cover it.

LDs are pursuing a “we are cleanskins” inherit the ruins strategy

This feels like an obvious stunt by Corbyn and an effective one at that - he obviously knew they were going to turn it down and it pours water on the bonfire of all that banal rainbow coalition stuff. They say they want Corbyn to work with the Remain side but clearly they don't.

It might be spun back to him now as "Corbyn won't stand down for the national good, it's Corbyn or no deal" but a lot of this is just tedious personal brand building while Rome burns.

It's all irrelevant when you only need a small number of Tory MPs to quit to kill No Deal. Something they appear strangely reluctant to do.

Phil McDuff has been good on this stuff:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/13/caroline-lucas-no-deal-brexit-corbyn-green-party-labour?CMP

“engage in petty or small-scale swindling.”

you’re right - the wallet inspecting is not by any measure small scale

Corbyn’s personal beliefs on Brexit are presented as the obstacle to working with him, but this contradicts the omnipresence of Yvette Cooper in every Stop Brexit fantasy proposal. Cooper’s position on Brexit is barely distinguishable from Corbyn’s

this needs repeating a thousand times to some of these fucking lame melts.

AIUi leavers don't really want to leave and remainers don't really want to remain, but I can't tell if both want to ride a grievance wave of having lost, or feel the buzz of fighting the battle in perpetuity

The stated obstacle to working with him is that he can't bring the Labour Party to the table, which seems self-evidently true?

yet these m/c nuggets gaslight the labour membership and delude their own followers that “jeremy is a brexiteer” who wants to inherit the ruins, despite the fact that he is the only credible political actor who has worked at every opportunity to try find a way to mitigate the worst potential excesses stemming from the democratically expressed will of GBP. they won’t take yes for an answer

so... if you’re so opposed to no deal why not support him if that’s the case? if his proposition is so destined to fail where’s the downside for the LDs? you could point to labour and say “they are a shambles and they did brexit”. except... how has the labour whipping operation performed so far on brexit votes? that’s why they’re rattled

xp