2020 Democratic presidential primary

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Is Hickenlooper still popular enough in Colorado for this to be a good idea? Would be nice to have a senator who hasn’t consumed fracking fluid.

i don't think hickenlooper is especially popular. there are a bunch of candidates already. it won't be an easy primary.

politically vocal and active buddy who lives adjacent to fracking zone/longmont is a never-frackenlooper— swears he will sit out rather than ever vote for him. and he loathes loathes loathes gardner and mitch, but NOPE

no idea how many of this type exist, i expect not a ton tho.

this was obviously hinckeblooper’s plan all along

I decided not to fix that typo

Hinckebloops for presidetn

NEW: Biden allies float idea of scaling back events to limit his verbal flubs https://t.co/Q2Ym6GoBwK pic.twitter.com/aeI6l1Gn5r

— The Hill (@thehill) August 15, 2019

biden stops running for president to scale back his verbal flubs

win win!

Hey! Good morning! It's time for another NYT story about Elizabeth Warren's electability!

That Biden story...it's like someone who's blind seeking out less populated roads to drive down in lieu of just not fucking driving because why the fuck are you driving when you can't fucking see.

Having watched the Sanders Rogan interview, I have to imagine every candidate is clamoring to go on. Rogan barely talked (thank the heavens) and Sanders got to explain his positions plainly, calmly, and with rare levels of detail, for over an hour, to millions.

Like I may not personally dig the venue but it seems like a smart play. Prez candidates probably should be going on popular YouTube gamer channels and stuff. The only people watching televised debates and whatnot are olds whose opinions are already pretty much set.

for sure

Beto's last ride (I think) - he's trying out some sort of relaunch today

.@BetoORourke: "There have even been some who have suggested that I stay in Texas and run for Senate, but that would not be good enough…we must take the fight directly to the source of this problem..." pic.twitter.com/uUlSnULsJy

— CSPAN (@cspan) August 15, 2019

that is a terrible jacket

gah just run for Senate, dude

Is 'the source of the problem' donors and volunteers who would like to see a return on their investment in your presidential campaign? If so, I think you're doing a fine job fighting that scourge, Beto.

This is like his third reboot.

Rebooto O'veragain

Well. Caveats etc.

Elizabeth Warren’s early investment in Iowa is paying off.

A new Iowa Starting Line-Change Research poll shows the senator opening up a commanding lead in the Iowa Caucus. Warren was the top pick of 28% of likely Iowa Caucus-goers in the poll, an 11-point lead over the nearest competitor. Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders were both tied for second with 17% each. Pete Buttigieg came in fourth at 13% and Kamala Harris has the backing of 8%.

Both Cory Booker and Beto O’Rourke garnered 3% of caucus-goers’ support, while Steve Bullock, Tulsi Gabbard, Amy Klobuchar and Tom Steyer got on the board at 2%. Julian Castro, Michael Bennet and Andrew Yang rounded out the field at 1%, while everyone else had less than that.

fuck yeah

I feel like Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina could all go to different candidates.

system badly needs regional multistate primaries, 5 max

Morbs I think it's kind of approaching that in practice, now that fully half the primaries are done by the end of March. The early states are loathe to give up their outsize influence and maybe they never will but I think the late ones will keep gradually piling in to March.

http://www.grubstreet.com/2019/08/pastry-chef-defends-elizabeth-warrrens-strawberry-shortcake.html

been a while since we even bothered having any *-gates

we are a frivolous nation and we deserve to burn

finally an interpretation of the end of GoThrones that makes sense

stoller, but lol nevertheless

“A senior New York official told me this week that the local chatter is that Gov. Andrew Cuomo is well-positioned to be Joe Biden’s chief of staff.” From @BuzzFeedBen’s newsletter

— Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller) August 15, 2019

RIP President Hickleblooper

2016: people who disliked hrc and trump went for trump

2020: "Voters who have a negative view of both Biden and Trump back Biden by a 43-10 percent margin in the head-to-head matchup"

That's very bad for trump.https://t.co/Sr0Ltp9UiO

— The Bearded Crank (@beardedcrank) August 15, 2019

Feels like an incumbent who can’t break 40% against any top challenger is in trouble, but we don’t know how many of these voters were polled in rust belt diners. pic.twitter.com/frKnLP3PFo

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) August 15, 2019

I am friends with a lot of different kinds of Democrats and it feels like Warren is the unique candidate who almost no one is not OK with, if that makes sense

I would say the only Democrats I know with concerns about Warren are women who think voters are too sexist to elect a woman even if she's great.

And the only people I know who see Warren as particularly left-wing are Republicans. The Democrats I know (even those who are not comfortable with Sanders) see her as... a Democrat, basically.

And, actually, so do I.

At this point I'd be happy with a "Democrat."

I thought the Bernie camp hated her because she's not anti-capitalist.

yeah i know a bunch of young sanders supporters to whom "capitalist to my bones" is a mortal sin. which i think is stupid as fuck but what can you do

I still think Warren qnd Sanders both clinging on as long as possible is a likely scenario, which means Biden will probably win.

ugh don’t say that!

The Bernie people I know are split (kind of) - half basically think she's a perfectly acceptable second choice in the primary, half are mad at the "capitalist to my bones."

I think the "ewww Warren" people are going to be crushed by how Bernie actually acts as President in the event of his election, it's hard to fathom either successfully bucking the 243-year long trend in American foreign policy (but Bernie absolutely more likely to do so).

last time around bernie gave off the impression of not really giving a fuck about foreign policy - has that changed?

Bernie has made eye-rolling (to my eyes) comments on using drones and carrying on in the American Century tradition fwiw. (also we didn't start venturing abroad til much later than 1776.)

crut, do you think being pissed at Warren giving a standing O to Trump for his red-meat "never a socialist country" line is stupid as fuck?

That Trump line was stupid because no one, including Bernie, is advocating turning America into a socialist country. But I don't think it's wrong to applaud per se.

I thought the line was obv targeting Bernie/AOC and their proposals with the reference to "new calls for socialism in America", not the Socialist Workers' Party, so I did think it was bad for progressive Dems to applaud it so eagerly. Not saying that disqualifies Warren for President.

Besides, EW is pushing co-determination iirc?

"I gave Trump a standing ovation because I prefer reformist social democracy to full-scale collectivization of the means of production" would be an interesting explanation for someone to give, though.

Tracer, I think FP has become a much larger focus for Sanders. He has been active in sponsoring the resolution calling for an end to US support for Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen and is probably the most prominent voice calling for a less unilaterally interventionist role for the US, favouring greater participation in intl decision-making organizations.