That's presupposing the existence of new voices.
― Checking My French, Checking-Checking My French (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 3 October 2008 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I know, but there has to be some, surely? That's what's so disheartening about the LP at the moment - who could run it better than it is at the moment? And there's nobody of any talent in the wings.
― dowd, Friday, 3 October 2008 10:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Candidacy only went to yes men in the first place. I doubt there are many inspirational new voices in (Labour) Parliament at all.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 October 2008 10:45 (fifteen years ago) link
PROFESSOR PAT PENDING?
(looks nowt like him, but)
― Mark G, Friday, 3 October 2008 10:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Really they're all just going into politics now as a career option rather than anything to do with conviction. Behave nicely, don't talk out of turn and you might get to be a PPS in 30 years' time laddie. They've got mortgages, student loans and credit cards to pay off so they're not in a position to argue, not that the notion of arguing would ever occur to them.
― Checking My French, Checking-Checking My French (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 3 October 2008 10:47 (fifteen years ago) link
The ballot box will wipe a lot of them out anyway - Labour could be forced into a callow shadow cabinet with the occasional big hitter.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 October 2008 10:47 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.its-prof-again.co.uk/
Is there anything in this world that *doesn't* have it's own website?
― Mark G, Friday, 3 October 2008 10:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Sydney Devine.
A callow cabinet?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1545000/images/_1549964_callow150.jpg
― Checking My French, Checking-Checking My French (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 3 October 2008 10:55 (fifteen years ago) link
With Mandy and Draper back beating the drum for Labour it's full steam ahead to a fourth term!
― Any cook should be able to run the country. (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 3 October 2008 11:18 (fifteen years ago) link
...for the Tories within the last three decades...
― Checking My French, Checking-Checking My French (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 3 October 2008 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, but Mandelson has previous experience at the DTI and in that capacity was surprisingly well thought of, both inside and outside the department.
(At least according to my partner, who was receiving a lot of DTI assistance while starting up his biotech business at the time. There was no small amount of dismay at the policy vacuum following PM's resignation, as he was providing strong tactical leadership on "knowledge-based economy" initiatives.)
― mike t-diva, Friday, 3 October 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Mandy spoke well to Paxman on the Econocalypse the other night.
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Friday, 3 October 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/oct/17/davidcameron-politicalnews
― the pinefox, Friday, 17 October 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link
let's hope this economic thingy can do for brown what it has done for obama
― conrad, Friday, 17 October 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I hate David Cameron.
― Local Garda, Friday, 17 October 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link
So do I.
Can you vote, in the UK?
― the pinefox, Friday, 17 October 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think so, but maybe if I'm here a little longer. I hate most the way he's talked of as having some kind of common touch that Brown lacks, yet they never put him in any situations where he might prove this. The one time I saw him speaking to "ordinary people" was on a BBC Newsbeat video where young people asked him questions, and he seemed completely aloof and freakish next to them.
― Local Garda, Friday, 17 October 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/oct/18/davidcameron-conservatives
― conrad, Saturday, 18 October 2008 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Holy crap, who saw this coming?
― Chopper Aristotle (Matt DC), Sunday, 23 November 2008 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Crikey, this is getting dangerously close to socialism.
― Billy Dods, Sunday, 23 November 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link
We won't be getting Tom Jones or Phil Collins back then.
― What a broad smile! It is like a delta! (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 24 November 2008 11:32 (fifteen years ago) link
50 quid on Campbell in car crash/outed as paedo/polonium milkshake before 2009.
― Me and Ruth Lorenzo, Rollin' in the Benzo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 November 2008 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Darling, rather.
― Me and Ruth Lorenzo, Rollin' in the Benzo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 November 2008 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link
HAVE YOUR SAY
The economy will go back to the dark days of the 1970s - taxing the rich is such a stupid idea
Matt, Manchester
― thomp, Monday, 24 November 2008 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link
or "Diamond", as KSilk had him on "Jungle" yesterday.
(xpost)
― Mark G, Monday, 24 November 2008 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link
We are all Joe the Plumber.
― Ed, Monday, 24 November 2008 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Speak for yourself pal. I'm more Joe the Pesci myself.
― What a broad smile! It is like a delta! (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 24 November 2008 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Not me, I'm Joe le Taxi.
― Me and Ruth Lorenzo, Rollin' in the Benzo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 November 2008 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link
And now I'm Lord the Custos.
Joe the Swash is the new Joe the Plumber.
0.5% increase in NI from 2011
― Ed, Monday, 24 November 2008 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1095057/Gordon-Brown-denies-February-election-rumours-ministers-claim-recession-worst-ever.html
― special guest stars mark bronson, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 13:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I still don't think they'd win, but I'd say this is the best chance they've got. However, given that Brown bottled it big time last October, it'd be pretty perverse of him to roll the dice now.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
frankly they've got too much on their plate to hold an election right now. i think they'll wait for the green shoots of recovery of early 2010, should there be any.
― generally seems to hate all the right people (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link
there's a weird anti-Brown rant that's been posted up on the v large billboard spaces underneath the old railway bridge by the top of Shoreditch High St.
― Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.flickr.com/photos/doctorow/3109564177/
― Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I love the Daily Mail pic of Tessa in prayer:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/bobbysixer/tessa.jpg
― Bob Six, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link
"We’ve had it up to here with a government that says we can go on treating people like shit."Labour's @BarryGardiner breaks down over the cost of living crisis @eiecampaign pic.twitter.com/YqseSSC1HE— PoliticsJOE (@PoliticsJOE_UK) August 18, 2022
Barry Gardiner MP supports the Enough is Enough campaign.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 18 August 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link
DJ Martian otm - the prophetic power of systems thinking!
This is the man to save Labour: John McDonnell― djmartian, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:11 (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― djmartian, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:11 (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 19 August 2022 13:20 (one year ago) link
Is there anything the Labour Party can do to win the next election? [Started by Ned Trifle II in May 2008, last updated two hours ago by Piedie Gimbel on I Love Everything] 2 new answersNope (dir. Jordan Peele) [Started by Ned Raggett in April 2022, last updated two hours ago by Josh in Chicago on I Love Everything] 13 new answers
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 19 August 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link
Bingo
― seo layer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 August 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link
Sadder answer, the plan is to do nothing and rely on winning the battle of apathy in the wasteland of 2024
― seo layer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 August 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link
it's more like "cisterns thinking" with Kieth, that's where he usually hides his flask of single malt
― calzino, Friday, 19 August 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link
"I know Owen, I like Owen, I'm sorry Owen... I'm not focused on Owen, I'm focused intently on winning the next general election"@Keir_Starmer reacts to being called a "professional political conman" by @OwenJones84.@theJeremyVine | #JeremyVine pic.twitter.com/kuNA15yF1i— Jeremy Vine On 5 (@JeremyVineOn5) August 31, 2022
"I like Owen"
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 11:44 (one year ago) link
An odd thing here is that KS puts OJ down by saying he was a "cheerleader" for Labour's 2019 election campaign.
KS, unlike OJ, was literally on the platform for the launch of Labour's 2019 election campaign. (I, unusually, was there!)
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 11:45 (one year ago) link
just found out that the owner of ex-alpaca Geronimo genuinely made a graphic for today where she called him "The Peoples Alpaca" pic.twitter.com/b7Wteunce0— Alice Lia Maro (@slimelia) August 31, 2022
next he'll be saying he actually tried to save Geronimo
― calzino, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 11:49 (one year ago) link
KS saved geronimo from having to watch the world fall into ghastly ruin
― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link
yeah they've probably already started eating his buddies
― seo layer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link
'We all know what it's like with teenage children and I feel very strongly about this...this argument that children can make decisions without the consent of parents is one I just don't agree with at all' https://t.co/U1y6V1PvVZ pic.twitter.com/UNGy8fQA3C— j (@jrc1921) November 1, 2022
KS very animated here as he springs into life to make a statement. You can judge the statement for yourself.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link
There's something wrong with that room and the people in it
― anvil, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link