PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

unless ilx is full of shy tories and lib dems who are quietly tutting at the uncouth discourse the only significant fault lines here afaict are soft brexit v remain, scottish independence, and the best location for the giant pit. I think the vast majority wld be pleased to see labour win the next GE.

Who is in favour of soft Brexit?

Caught in flagrante delicto.

"It’s hard for me to understand what you all actually want"

Tories to die in death camps

my enthusiasm for the EU is ever-waning but I'd still pick EU membership over the softest brexit deal, even tho I suspect it's not viable esp over the long term

I’m pro abolition of london

wow sorry to hear you hate multiculturalism and the enlightenment

I had no idea London was a noted haunt for major Enlightenment figures.

I'm sure it's a problem in a lot of places but it does feel like british political culture runs almost entirely on schadenfreude & spite, and it's created a nation of ppl totally unprepared to have to do anything beyond mockery

There is a lot of truth in this but i guess you have to balance it against Labour being the largest political party in Europe, the excellent get-out-the-vote mobilisation at the last election, the boom in grass-roots campaign volunteering, etc. Between election cycles, the ability to effect change through participation in politics seems incredibly remote and hopeless, though.

Just attend a local ward meeting for proof of that :/

Tl; dr what do I personally want? A change of government.

Longer: why do I personally want a change of government?

Besides the glaringly obvious reasons (racism as policy, Priti Patel as Home Secretary, Brexit crashout aimed at blaming foreigners which will in no way end badly), I want:

- a government who won’t dedicate a whole department to far right causes like letting the Bloody Sunday soldiers get away with murder
- w government who will properly fund the NHS (and hopefully repeal the Health & Social care act)
- a government not marked by years of spiralling hate crime statistics
- a government who care about homelessness
- a government who aren’t gleefully pursuing the daily persecution of the poor or disabled

Tbh I feel like I bang on about some/all of this stuff all the time?

Is Corbyn’s Labour a wonderful flawless government who will enact all of the above? No, ofc not. Would they be the most likely party to pursue many/all of the above in power? Yes.

As to the pervading level of despair and “spite”, well that’s what you get when the media collude with the government to give them the softest possible ride and drag Labour over the pettiest shit. Not to mention people itt suffering all kinds of shit due to the inactions of the government and having to live in a country where people still, still! fucking get out of bed and vote for them.

I leave you with

nothing but respect for MY all-female unity cabinet pic.twitter.com/6rWJvBV9rC

— Beth Desmond (@languesbians) August 12, 2019

Missing: Marion Maréchal-Le Pen.

I have been improved by the pain of a lifetime of hopelessness. while many still slumber in despair I am frolicking in the energy of a newly awakened belief in a tomorrow and after-tomorrow; of sudden sentience and prescience of a future, of near adventures, of seas open once more, and aims once more permitted and believed in. I feel my spirits buoyed by the thawing wind and am filled with wanton tenderness to expend on problems with a prickly hide, occasionally even local ward meetings.

…he said, throwing his arms around the horse's neck.

I just want to see a mountain of tory skulls, and then take a good shit into every single one of them. And then have a picnic next to one of the McD lagereis where the melts are toiling in forced labour sweatshops... all a load of bollox of course but one of the joys of being a space-cadet is the capability of spending more time in your imagination than you do in grim-ass reality!

Sometimes I worry this next election is the last chance for many of us*, won't even be able to look when that next GE exit poll is announced.

* probably sounds a panicky and hyperbolic but idk...

the horse is my union

I'll admit this isn't quite how I pictured it:

https://exploringyourmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/nietzsche-and-horse.jpg

Looking at this and I like it over here:

Today in Hong Kong a protest against police violence completely shut down an international airport. This is extraordinary. pic.twitter.com/yt5MOUpVhe

— automnia (@aut_omnia) August 12, 2019

ctrl + f “abolition of london” not found

XR were planning to shut down Gatwick with drones at one point but seem to have thought better of it.

Good to see Diane Abbott criticising stop and search as a policy, particularly when Lou Haigh has been Well Actuallying Priti Patel on whether the new police powers are strong enough and questioning why we aren't building more prisons.

xp easy on, Jordan Peterson, I’ve got some nice shiny callipers to distract you in that thread over there

there was someone very good on R4 yesterday talking about the history of s+s turning police into an occupying force and being counterproductive and pointing out that stop + search had a 5 % success rate last time out and the bbc presenter countered with some quote from a right wing think tank about it being a popular policy with the great british public etc.. unbelievable level of scrutiny.

10,000 new prison places, £2.5B

did you see the george clark thing on channel 4 last week about council housing? 10,000 council house places would probably do more for the crime stats than 10k prison places.

> some quote from a right wing think tank about it being a popular policy with the great british public etc..

just listening to radio from yesterday and they did that thing that they do too often - *reported* that dianne abbott had said something about stop and search followed by *actual audio* of p.patel saying that the victims want it. which has more impact?

yeah. diane abbott is extremely available for quotes ime

rewind 5 years
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27224887
Police stop and search powers in England and Wales are to be overhauled with a revised code of conduct, Home Secretary Theresa May has said.
She told MPs an inquiry had found 27% of searches may have been illegal.

and to get an idea of where we're probably heading
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/sep/11/boris-johnson-plan-to-tackle-gang-rejected-by-two-of-three-pilot-councils

aiui almost all searches would be illegal if it wasn’t for the post 7/7 laws allowing police to search anyone they like within the vicinity of certain areas / structures without reason.

The gist is that police need one of three things:

a) reasonable suspicion
b) consent
c) anti-terrorism powers to be in effect

The traditional model was to scare people into giving consent, now that’s less necessary. The idea that police are primarily focusing on people they have reason to believe may have committed a crime has never been true. It has always been an absolute abuse of authority.

iirc this is also why a lot of immigration enforcement fishing trips happen at tube stations - it’s somwhere you can racially profile / interrogate members of the public under no suspicion of wrongdoing.

did you see the george clark thing on channel 4 last week about council housing?

yeah, this was really good actually - went much further in outright attacking capitalism as the root cause of the problem than i thought it would, although sadly he stopped short of calling for fully-automated luxury gay space communism

ot but lol

Um #scottishtwitter pic.twitter.com/Ajgq5KMcPz

— Laura Waddell (@lauraewaddell) August 12, 2019

it’s not even true! yr teeth are all formed in your skull before you’re born! THEY’RE THE EXACT SAME AGE AS YER NIPPLES DANNY YA ROCKET

what's more:
http://cdn.yourarticlelibrary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/clip_image002213.jpg

PRECISELY

Lads, it's for the good of the community, lads

Did someone call for an all-female cabinet? pic.twitter.com/eLRa5Uvbde

— Young Conservatives (@Young_Tories) August 12, 2019

slay queens

It's almost as if intersectionality isn't a thing

did you see the george clark thing on channel 4 last week about council housing?

yeah, this was really good actually

I watched it assuming to be irritated and expecting him to start gushing about "ammmmazzzzing spaces" but damn him he did a good job.

The fact that it was on at all suggests a changing of public attitudes, you'd never have had something like that on Channel 4 even five or six years ago.

back then Cameron in his pre-pigfucking reveal and brexit defeat pomp, could say out loud that council houses are just petri dishes for labour voters.

FYI George Clarke lives very near the Grenfell Tower site. Nice to see him taking action; guessing the idea started the production process just after the fire.

It's almost as if intersectionality isn't a thing

― uptown too tanking (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 August 2019 18:42 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

its been so lonely

The trip to Austria and their attitude to social housing was o_O. A little view of how things could be.

had a comprehensively depressing dream last night that Tories won an increased majority in a General Election, due to “liberal disarray and the boris bounce”. i’m hoping my mental tea leaves are themselves disordered - the front page splash the next day, in which i was asked my opinion, was a picture of the Tory’s Signourney Weaver lookalike leader and the headline “Working Girl?”. Obv neither boris bounce nor the conspicous lack of melanie griffith quite fit with that so am hoping something’s got jammed in the works somewhere.

some of it also seemed to take place in rome idk

yeah but what was your opinion?

that headline would 100% happen

Adonis defines remainism as a revolt of the middle class – and that is why he believes that, in the end, Brexit won’t happen. “The English middle class, deeply alarmed, will be heard and will win,” he told me. “That’s my whole experience of politics.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/13/brexit-remain-radicalisation-fbpe-peoples-vote

That emoji though

Can UKIP's new leader @richardbraine explain why he's apparently wearing an Augusto Pinochet t shirt in this photo with @missalicegrant pic.twitter.com/GORJ2Axogw

— Otto English (@Otto_English) August 11, 2019

They wouldn't have chosen him if he wasn't a fascist. Every single Ukip leader has been a very serious racist.

The same is true of the Brexit Party.

— Mibble Mobble Ming (@MibbleMing) August 12, 2019

I promise you I'm not a fascist! 🤣

— Richard Braine (@richardbraine) August 12, 2019