The August 2019 US Politics Thread is dumb (stupid}

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/06/politics/trump-campaign-el-paso-debt/

According to invoice documents obtained by CNN, the city of El Paso initially billed the Trump campaign $470,417.05 in reimbursement costs for the event. But in a letter dated March 27, 2019, the Office of the Comptroller of the City of El Paso wrote to the campaign that, if it did not pay its debt within 30 days, a one-time 21% collection fee -- nearly $100,000 -- would be added. The total invoice with the late fees now stands at $569,204.63.

Dumb post, I guess I wouldn’t cause a scene if he for some reason visited my place of work

one time I bumped into John Howard outside a lift at work, and elected to take the stairs rather than scream at him for going into a fake war as a lickspittle, and for opening concentration camps to imprison refugees about whom he had lied that they murdered their own children, in order to win an election he was tanking

however, this was a public service job at an institution he was already trying to eradicate, and there were no cameras.

I think he reached the bar

Let's hope that Trump is so boorish and uncouth today in Dayton and El Paso that he puts an end once-and-for all to this sick tradition of Presidents visiting the scenes of selected atrocities--they never go to the sites of slaughter that they actually have culpability for.

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) August 7, 2019

Tucker Carlson Insists Every White Supremacist In America Could Fit In Stadium But That Tickets To TuckerCon Won’t Last https://t.co/mGwgJpOeRU pic.twitter.com/uepMRRyIab

— The Onion (@TheOnion) August 7, 2019

I hope the people can stay angry for a long time about this

Children of those arrested in Wednesday’s #ICE raids near Forest, MS. are being put up in a local gym tonight by neighbors/strangers. Many are left scared & crying after coming home from school & being locked out without their parents. Donated food & drinks are being provided. pic.twitter.com/d2juMdK1Vj

— Alex Love (@AlexLoveWJTV) August 8, 2019

I’ve written and erased several posts re: that story that the mods would have probably had to delete.

sounds awful

xpost I do a lot of that these days. I'm inching ever nearer to making explicit calls for [REDACTED] but I've retained my better judgment this far.

prob best to save it for a signal text

This country has no need for an ethnic cleansing agency, you could just say that. We all agree.

We all agree.

If, by 'we' you indicate ilxors, then yes. If you meant to indicate all Americans, then there seems to be a substantial body within the public who would enthusiastically embrace a bit of the old ethnic cleansing, if it is hidden behind some sort of fig leaf of rationalization.

here's a fun fb comment from someone I've known since we were just little kids. conservatism does a fucking number on people's brains

Let's say libs are right and gun laws protect us from each other for the most part. let's say they "work" (still isnt going to stop people from illegally obtaining a gun), but ultimately if we need to use our guns to rise up against a corrupt govt... say they decided white people all had to die (not too far-fetched these days, eeeh?), but they slowly took our guns... first only the so called assault weapons... then on down to less threatening guns... then our speech gets censored...
I mean, it didn't happen fast in ww2. It was a slow build. So slow nobody realized they were in danger. They took away jews rights, first things like enforcing a curfew, then they made it illegal to purchase from their businesses, separated them by forcing them to wear the mogen David, took away their radios, relocated them with whatever they could carry into ghettos where they were fenced off from the world and cramped and living in horrible conditions, starved them, slowly lowering the amount of food they would get, eventually they were shipped off to death camps. People heard rumors... but how can you believe something so horrible. Also what can you do when you are nearly starved to death, swollen with hunger and have no weapons?
I'm not for giving more control away, because I don't want to see a slow erosion of our rights. I do not trust government.

I saw a quote that read: "how many people have to die before you will give up your guns"

"the answer is all of us"

say they decided white people all had to die (not too far-fetched these days, eeeh?), but they slowly took our guns... first only the so called assault weapons... then on down to less threatening guns... then our speech gets censored...

what if "First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist."

only in the complete opposite direction

cool creepy ending too!

very fine supremacists on both sides

“I am concerned about the rise of any group of hate,” President Trump tells reporters, adding that is “whether it’s white supremacy, or any other kind of supremacy.”
— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) August 7, 2019

She left out the best bit, he then goes on to say "whether it’s antifa, whether it’s any group " and kind of trails off.

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE, RUGFACE.

so basically the only time people like frogbs' fb friend would be willing to take up arms against the government is if the government tried to take their arms

v cool ethical ouroboros mindset

I do not trust government

I trust gun-owners much less.

Amnesty International today issued a travel warning calling for travelers and visitors to the United States to exercise extreme caution due to rampant gun violence, which has become so prevalent in the US that it amounts to a human rights crisis. https://t.co/bsVsiBOO5K pic.twitter.com/CVWEyVzR3c

— Amnesty International (@amnestyusa) August 7, 2019

amnesty international otm tbh

tfw when 'laws' are more important than child welfare

ICE rounds up hundreds of undocumented workers in immigration sweeps in Mississippi

U.S. immigration authorities on Wednesday rounded up hundreds of undocumented workers in food processing plants during a sprawling operation in Mississippi that officials touted as the largest immigration enforcement sweep in a single state in U.S. history.

By targeting workplaces across six different cities in southern Mississippi, Immigration and Customs and Enforcement (ICE) agents, with the help of the local district attorney's office, apprehended approximately 680 undocumented immigrants.

At a press conference on Wednesday afternoon, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Mississippi Mike Hurst said the large-scale raids collectively represented "the largest single state immigration enforcement operation in our nation's history."

"While we are a nation of immigrants, more than that, we are first and foremost a nation of laws," he told reporters at the press conference, where he was flanked by Acting ICE Director Matthew Albence.

Asked about what would happen to workers who have children in the U.S., Albence reiterated the administration's standard guidance that arrests in the criminal justice system lead to family separations. He said affected children would be placed with other family members and in some instances, some parents could be released with ankle bracelets.

In Forest, Mississippi, gym owner Jordan Barnes and other community leaders were taking donations to put some of the children up for the night in his Clear Creek Boot Camp and get them to school Thursday morning, reports CBS Jackson, Mississippi affiliate WJTV.

The station says many children of those arrested across the state were left with nowhere to go. Children, some as young as toddlers, were relying on neighbors and even strangers to pick them up and drive them to the gym, where people tried to keep them calm. But many of them couldn't stop crying for their parents, WJTV said.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-raids-in-mississippi-officials-tout-largest-single-state-immigration-sweeps-in-us-history-today-2019-08-07/

good morning!

what is frogbs' FB friend waiting for? Trump and ICE would seem to be exactly what he's talking about!

it's only government tyranny when it's imposed on white people iirc

They'll put the guns away when there's no-one left to shoot.

so 680 people were rounded up and separated from their families—not at the Mexican border—and we are evidently inured enough to this that it doesn't merit a single mention on NYT home page

this is trending in a completely fucked direction

seems like they have cleared the first hurdle of outrage

well, yeah

what is frogbs' FB friend waiting for? Trump and ICE would seem to be exactly what he's talking about!

hah I brought that up and she got all mad about THE LAAAWWWWWSSSS

maybe remind your friend that illegally crossing the us border is a misdemeanour

TBF the common punishment for most misdemeanors in the US is being forcibly separated from your young children.

[RE-MOTHERFUCKING-DACTED]

All the assholes who need their guns just in case the government gets out of hand and taking away liberties etc YOUR TIME IS NOW, MOTHERFUCKERS

Worth a read.

TBF the common punishment for most misdemeanors in the US is being forcibly separated from your young children.

yeah so this is usually when she goes off about A) We have no way to tell if they're actually families!! 70% of them are actually human traffickers! (source: http://patriotnews.info) and B) If I do crimes and go to jail they take my kids away too!

it's almost like she's not arguing in good faith or something

I know it's as common as a cold, but I will never understand how people's basic humanity can slip away to such an extent that they can't at least empathize with the trauma of parents and children being separated from one another.

as for actual citizens being "accidentally" detained it really does seem this admin is now a stone's throw from giving up the pretense of error and just owning it as policy

yeah you might have proof to the contrary, you might have the law on your side (lol) but sorry you're brown a suspect until a single overwhelmed public defender can navigate you and a hundred others out of here

srsly what is going to prevent this from happening

easy to do when you don't think of people who don't share your skin tone as human and your attitude is reinforced by media which regularly refers to those people in deliberately dehumanising terms xp

And yet how many of these people would still shed a tear or two while watching a sad video about neglected puppies.

well, there aren't caravans of puppies swarming over the border, bringing disease, rape gangs and terrorists with them

I know it's as common as a cold, but I will never understand how people's basic humanity can slip away to such an extent that they can't at least empathize with the trauma of parents and children being separated from one another.

It's an extension of that self-shielding mechanism whereby you look away when walking by a slowly expiring hobo downtown. Focus on that sensation and intensify it infinity-fold – voilà, you're a neocon now.

she's on one today already

Hate whitey. Love diversity.
White man bad. White man evil.
Everyone else can do no wrong.
Fear white man. White = racist.
THERE ARE BAD AND GOOD PEOPLE OF EACH AND EVERY SKIN TONE. I'M NOT SORRY FOR MY SKIN COLOR. IM PROUD OF IT. IF YOU THINK THAT MAKES ME EVIL, YOU NEED SOME MENTAL HELP. STOP EATING WHAT THE MEDIA FEEDS YOU.

Sounds a little paranoid

STOP EATING WHAT THE MEDIA FEEDS YOU, THAT IS MY JOB.

why the fuck are you friends with this person

Habit's a helluva drug. Also the fear of dying alone.

It's like reading a screed on independent thought comprised entirely of pullquotes. So many brains out there that just don't work.

White man bad. White man evil.

to be fair, this IS the face tattoo that House democrats have pledged to require every American to get starting in 2020

if only the house dems were committed to anything approaching that kind of radical action

in other crushingly awful immigration policy news

OMG. I don’t care which side of political debate you’re on, this is just horrible.

Video of Jimmy Al Daoud , lived in US since was 6 months old, then got deported by ICE to Iraq in June.

Diabetic, homeless, didn’t know language. He died... pic.twitter.com/djKTXFbp48

— Joyce Karam (@Joyce_Karam) August 8, 2019