The August 2019 US Politics Thread is dumb (stupid}

Who do you blame for your fundamental uselessness when there are no minorities to scapegoat?

(A koan for our times.)

remember how 2 years ago Trump both sides'd the Charlottesville Nazi rally and it was a big deal

2017 was wild!

Carlson also claimed all the white supremacists in America could fit inside a football stadium

they could call it the Republican National Convention

Trying to think of another organization besides the '64-and-beyond GOP that pushes its tacit white supremacist mandate as close to the brink of explicitness without formally codifying it as such. Coming up short.

maybe the National Party in South Africa, up to 1994? although I'm not sure if apartheid was formally codified by the party or if it was more like Jim Crow (which was formally codified in some areas, of course)

no stats on how many stadiums they'd fill but

Tucker Carlson said last night that white supremacy isn't a "real problem" in the United States. This is almost too ridiculous to fact check, but here are a few numbers from me on the extent of the problem: pic.twitter.com/XFPY3BguD9

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) August 7, 2019

Seal of the GOP should be an old white dude looking aghast and butthurt with 'WHO, ME?' underneath.

can i get a fact check on how effective it has been to fact check obvious racists

it is 100% effective %0 of the time

I think he thinks it impresses people. I just find it a bit anally retentive and a good reason to ignore the guy

Tucker Carlson said last night that white supremacy isn't a "real problem" in the United States.

It doesn't trouble him, therefore it is not a problem.

'How could I fault an ideology which allows me, who in a just universe would be consigned to ashtray cleaning detail at a car wash, to vomit every worthless opinion I have to millions of people on national tv?'

Watching Sleepy Joe Biden making a speech. Sooo Boring! The LameStream Media will die in the ratings and clicks with this guy. It will be over for them, not to mention the fact that our Country will do poorly with him. It will be one big crash, but at least China will be happy!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 7, 2019

he tweets between visiting with the victims two separate mass shootings

that said he's actually right here, the media knows Trump is good for business and that's why they run so much cover for him

his tweets are basically the presidential Warhol Diaries

(sorry Andy)

Everything is fine
https://abc7ny.com/man-slams-13-year-old-to-ground-during-national-anthem-police/5449398/

This is not Brockway’s first run in with police. MTN News obtained court documents from a 2010 incident where he plead guilty to an assault with a weapon charge.
In that 2010 incident, Brockway pulled up to a parked vehicle, got out and pulled a gun on a family and stated he was going to kill them.
Brockway's friend persuaded him to put away his weapon and leave.
He was sentenced to 10 years with the Montana Department of Corrections, all of which were suspended.

Basically American Taliban.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBZG8veW4AY7gN2?format=jpg&name=small

reminder that Trump literally does not care about dead people and sees every single visit as an opportunity for people to show him how much they like him

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBZQI1BVAAEt1PC.jpg

why is no one screaming at him to go away

Dumb post, I guess I wouldn’t cause a scene if he for some reason visited my place of work

I think he thinks it impresses people. I just find it a bit anally retentive and a good reason to ignore the guy

― Stevolende, Thursday, August 8, 2019 5:01 AM (one hour ago)

Beat reporters who are assigned to cover city council meetings just file reports to impress people. I find it anally retentive to report on conspiracies to overturn votes on levies, and if reports cover the mayor's actions after receipt of bribes, that is a good reason to ignore the reporter.

would you stand for the picture and smile? those fucking people around him... xpost

rich doctors are usually chuds

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/06/politics/trump-campaign-el-paso-debt/

According to invoice documents obtained by CNN, the city of El Paso initially billed the Trump campaign $470,417.05 in reimbursement costs for the event. But in a letter dated March 27, 2019, the Office of the Comptroller of the City of El Paso wrote to the campaign that, if it did not pay its debt within 30 days, a one-time 21% collection fee -- nearly $100,000 -- would be added. The total invoice with the late fees now stands at $569,204.63.

Dumb post, I guess I wouldn’t cause a scene if he for some reason visited my place of work

one time I bumped into John Howard outside a lift at work, and elected to take the stairs rather than scream at him for going into a fake war as a lickspittle, and for opening concentration camps to imprison refugees about whom he had lied that they murdered their own children, in order to win an election he was tanking

however, this was a public service job at an institution he was already trying to eradicate, and there were no cameras.

I think he reached the bar

Let's hope that Trump is so boorish and uncouth today in Dayton and El Paso that he puts an end once-and-for all to this sick tradition of Presidents visiting the scenes of selected atrocities--they never go to the sites of slaughter that they actually have culpability for.

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) August 7, 2019

Tucker Carlson Insists Every White Supremacist In America Could Fit In Stadium But That Tickets To TuckerCon Won’t Last https://t.co/mGwgJpOeRU pic.twitter.com/uepMRRyIab

— The Onion (@TheOnion) August 7, 2019

I hope the people can stay angry for a long time about this

Children of those arrested in Wednesday’s #ICE raids near Forest, MS. are being put up in a local gym tonight by neighbors/strangers. Many are left scared & crying after coming home from school & being locked out without their parents. Donated food & drinks are being provided. pic.twitter.com/d2juMdK1Vj

— Alex Love (@AlexLoveWJTV) August 8, 2019

I’ve written and erased several posts re: that story that the mods would have probably had to delete.

sounds awful

xpost I do a lot of that these days. I'm inching ever nearer to making explicit calls for [REDACTED] but I've retained my better judgment this far.

prob best to save it for a signal text

This country has no need for an ethnic cleansing agency, you could just say that. We all agree.

We all agree.

If, by 'we' you indicate ilxors, then yes. If you meant to indicate all Americans, then there seems to be a substantial body within the public who would enthusiastically embrace a bit of the old ethnic cleansing, if it is hidden behind some sort of fig leaf of rationalization.

here's a fun fb comment from someone I've known since we were just little kids. conservatism does a fucking number on people's brains

Let's say libs are right and gun laws protect us from each other for the most part. let's say they "work" (still isnt going to stop people from illegally obtaining a gun), but ultimately if we need to use our guns to rise up against a corrupt govt... say they decided white people all had to die (not too far-fetched these days, eeeh?), but they slowly took our guns... first only the so called assault weapons... then on down to less threatening guns... then our speech gets censored...
I mean, it didn't happen fast in ww2. It was a slow build. So slow nobody realized they were in danger. They took away jews rights, first things like enforcing a curfew, then they made it illegal to purchase from their businesses, separated them by forcing them to wear the mogen David, took away their radios, relocated them with whatever they could carry into ghettos where they were fenced off from the world and cramped and living in horrible conditions, starved them, slowly lowering the amount of food they would get, eventually they were shipped off to death camps. People heard rumors... but how can you believe something so horrible. Also what can you do when you are nearly starved to death, swollen with hunger and have no weapons?
I'm not for giving more control away, because I don't want to see a slow erosion of our rights. I do not trust government.

I saw a quote that read: "how many people have to die before you will give up your guns"

"the answer is all of us"

say they decided white people all had to die (not too far-fetched these days, eeeh?), but they slowly took our guns... first only the so called assault weapons... then on down to less threatening guns... then our speech gets censored...

what if "First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist."

only in the complete opposite direction

cool creepy ending too!

very fine supremacists on both sides

“I am concerned about the rise of any group of hate,” President Trump tells reporters, adding that is “whether it’s white supremacy, or any other kind of supremacy.”
— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) August 7, 2019

She left out the best bit, he then goes on to say "whether it’s antifa, whether it’s any group " and kind of trails off.

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE, RUGFACE.

so basically the only time people like frogbs' fb friend would be willing to take up arms against the government is if the government tried to take their arms

v cool ethical ouroboros mindset

I do not trust government

I trust gun-owners much less.

Amnesty International today issued a travel warning calling for travelers and visitors to the United States to exercise extreme caution due to rampant gun violence, which has become so prevalent in the US that it amounts to a human rights crisis. https://t.co/bsVsiBOO5K pic.twitter.com/CVWEyVzR3c

— Amnesty International (@amnestyusa) August 7, 2019

amnesty international otm tbh

tfw when 'laws' are more important than child welfare

ICE rounds up hundreds of undocumented workers in immigration sweeps in Mississippi

U.S. immigration authorities on Wednesday rounded up hundreds of undocumented workers in food processing plants during a sprawling operation in Mississippi that officials touted as the largest immigration enforcement sweep in a single state in U.S. history.

By targeting workplaces across six different cities in southern Mississippi, Immigration and Customs and Enforcement (ICE) agents, with the help of the local district attorney's office, apprehended approximately 680 undocumented immigrants.

At a press conference on Wednesday afternoon, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Mississippi Mike Hurst said the large-scale raids collectively represented "the largest single state immigration enforcement operation in our nation's history."

"While we are a nation of immigrants, more than that, we are first and foremost a nation of laws," he told reporters at the press conference, where he was flanked by Acting ICE Director Matthew Albence.

Asked about what would happen to workers who have children in the U.S., Albence reiterated the administration's standard guidance that arrests in the criminal justice system lead to family separations. He said affected children would be placed with other family members and in some instances, some parents could be released with ankle bracelets.

In Forest, Mississippi, gym owner Jordan Barnes and other community leaders were taking donations to put some of the children up for the night in his Clear Creek Boot Camp and get them to school Thursday morning, reports CBS Jackson, Mississippi affiliate WJTV.

The station says many children of those arrested across the state were left with nowhere to go. Children, some as young as toddlers, were relying on neighbors and even strangers to pick them up and drive them to the gym, where people tried to keep them calm. But many of them couldn't stop crying for their parents, WJTV said.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-raids-in-mississippi-officials-tout-largest-single-state-immigration-sweeps-in-us-history-today-2019-08-07/

good morning!

what is frogbs' FB friend waiting for? Trump and ICE would seem to be exactly what he's talking about!

it's only government tyranny when it's imposed on white people iirc