2020 Democratic presidential primary

Downey is wayyyyy too short to win in the celebrity deathmatch election scenario under discussion.

I predict that either Warren or Sanders will drop out at some point

challopsy I know

warren and sanders need to campaign in florida

The idea that Sanders voters’ Plan B is more often Biden than Warren (as Fred B posted upthread), and that Warren’s folks would go to Buttigieg or Harris rather than Sanders makes no sense to me at all. Then again I’m a bit thick.

The stats here do show Sanders as the top second choice (slightly over Harris) for Warren leaners with Biden over Warren 31-26 as the second choice of Sanders supporters. Interestingly, Sanders also seems like the top second choice for Biden supporters.

None of that means it will stay that way by the time the primaries roll around obv.

Interestingly, Sanders also seems like the top second choice for Biden supporters.

name recognition imo

this election is going to be brutal

22 people in my hometown are dead after an act of terror inspired by your racism. El Paso will not be quiet and neither will I. https://t.co/dakFPKj0vJ

— Beto O'Rourke (@BetoORourke) August 7, 2019

these #beto freaks on twitter are really weird

The idea that Sanders voters’ Plan B is more often Biden than Warren (as Fred B posted upthread), and that Warren’s folks would go to Buttigieg or Harris rather than Sanders makes no sense to me at all. Then again I’m a bit thick.

― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous),

A London based colleague told me that centrist Labour MP Jess Phillips is 'The UK's AOC', because 'ballsy', 'mouthy', 'says what she means'

xp - They started screaming at Ashley Feinberg for daring to tweet that he should drop out and run for Senator.

that person is the Rock

Trump's core voters would prefer Kid Rock.

Plan B ... makes no sense to me at all

I support Warren in part because I'm a bit more moderate than Sanders, and because Sanders' personality rubs me the wrong way. Not a fan of either Buttigieg or Harris, but I could see either being more effective governing once elected than Sanders.

No idea why Sanders voters plan B is Biden. If electability in the general was their main concern, why not support Biden from the outset? I wouldn't expect Sanders voters to have a large contingent who simply can't abide a woman in the presidency, but this was IMO worth about 5% in the 2016 general: mostly lean-Republicans, though including a shocking number of women.

A London based colleague told me that centrist Labour MP Jess Phillips is 'The UK's AOC', because 'ballsy', 'mouthy', 'says what she means'

jesus christ ;_;

Bernie Sanders did Joe Rogan yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O-iLk1G_ng

Trump a couple of minutes ago: "Joe Biden has lost his fastball." So Biden will have to reinvent himself as a knuckleballer, become very unpredictable.

i assume joe rogan is a marxist now

Isn't Joe Rogan a 'worldview of whoever he's currently interviewing'-ist

he has what can only be described as a very powerful brain, yes

looool

The combo of Bernie plus his usual guests is going to turn Rogan into a Strasserite.

It's very possible that politics just doesn't make sense, but it's also very early. I think Warren will gain with the Sanders crowd over time -- she's had a lot less national attention than either Sanders or Biden.

In response to the "Plan B" thing. Biden is also perceived as more liberal than he is due to Obama imo. Most people don't dig into the "Senator from Citibank" type stuff. Name recognition and association go a very long way. And people who post in primaries threads tend to forget just how little attention most people pay this early--I often make this mistake myself.

yeah I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that Biden's polling numbers are going to steadily go down. especially since he's going senile and can't really make a good case for himself.

why liberals think The Great Deporter/Droner/Surveiller/Would-Be Grand Bargainer was a liberal is the big question

you can think of better nicknames

stop trying to make O-bomber happen

lol even the debaters threw 'Racky under the bus last time

yeah I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that Biden's polling numbers are going to steadily go down. especially since he's going senile and can't really make a good case for himself.

― frogbs, Wednesday, August 7, 2019 5:36 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Warren is the exact person in the primary who will eviscerate Biden on his coziness with banks and the bankruptcy bill and they haven't been on the same stage yet.

The Great Deporter/Droner/Surveiller/Would-Be Grand Bargainer

morbius you need to think first and commit to an insult rather than jumping in and flailing around until you've worn yourself out

well he was a multitalented neolib fool

it's a meritocracy

this is not a good person to be hanging around with

I see @AIDSHealthcare’s Michael Weinstein in the back campaigning with @SenSanders in LA yesterday. Weinstein, whose AHF funded last year’s state rent control initiative Prop. 10, has been a Sanders housing adviser https://t.co/bcLmxohhj7 https://t.co/ce7uUi9Hlh

— Liam Dillon (@dillonliam) August 7, 2019

Droner/Surveiller

cassette only harsh noise

I guess you could say he was an O-BUMMER, hyuk hyuk.

"this is not a good person to be hanging around with" why?

(asking seriously becvause I don't know anything about him)

He and the foundation are known for blocking construction more than helping people with HIV.

https://www.hivplusmag.com/opinion/2015/06/24/op-ed-10-worst-offenses-aids-healthcare-foundations-michael-weinstein

seeing people getting mad at bernie for going on rogan makes it hard to shake the impression that for a very loud but tiny fraction of leftists being a fringe subculture forever miles away from power is their whole purpose

— Garbage 🦍 (@GarbageApe) August 7, 2019

He’s a nimby and a prep crank

that’s no way to talk about bernie ffs

99% of everything people say about politics on twitter doesn't matter

you're off by a percentage point there

The revered 2%

if that's the direction you want to go in

Has Biden even said one goddamn thing worth a shit in the last week? Why is he a target for Trump tweets?

who cares, let him drain the orange ape's aggression, maybe it will be worn out and wasted by the time someone other than biden gets the nomination (yeah I know that won't happen but I can pretend)

he gave a speech today in Iowa that got under Trump's skin: "his low energy, vacant-eyed mouthing of the words written for him condemning white supremacists this week I don't believe fooled anyone"

only fooled the new york times

yes lol