2020 Democratic presidential primary

^"Too Many Jebs". 1 minute of campaign promos of centrist middleaged white male candidates, cut to the "Too Many Cooks" theme. I'll have to learn how to embed YT videos all over...

I lol'd

Forgot Steyer was even running.

Interesting: @BetoORourke tells @jonfavs he’s open to an Australia-style mandatory buyback program for guns.

That makes him the most prominent Democratic presidential candidate favoring that idea. pic.twitter.com/Rb0xsSPlav

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) August 6, 2019

beto has leaped about 5 spots for me now

Were you a big Swalwell fan too

swallwell supported buying back only assault rifles, a cosmetic half-measure

I’m sure beto will walk this back soon so don’t worry about me, I’m still the same cynical asshole

so don’t worry about me, I’m still the same cynical asshole

New board description.

What are Jay Inslee’s flaws?

name recognition

his main flaw is that he won't be president

but perhaps he'll lead EPA or be appointed to another key environmental position

he would've been an ideal candidate in another era--a successful governor with a long record of tangible achievement, a white guy who comes off well on camera, and a guy with a signature issue that many americans care about. but you kinda need to be famous in order to win an election these days, and he just is not.

"another era" meaning a day when a relatively unknown person could swoop in and win the dem nomination, like say, jimmy carter or bill clinton

I'm starting to like Beto again too but god damnit dude needs to drop out and run for Senate, he's not gonna win the primary but he could do awesome things there

He's not qualified to be President and frankly probably not to be Senator either, but he would be miles better than Cornyn.

what is "qualified" to be a senator in 2019?

celebrity, money, or both

beto seems qualified

yeah why is Beto not qualified for the Senate?

"another era" meaning a day when a relatively unknown person could swoop in and win the dem nomination, like say, jimmy carter or bill clinton

― jakey mo collier (voodoo chili)

it's worth mentioning that obama, despite being well-known inside political circles, was still a relative unknown to most of the country in 2008

I think Clinton was thought of as a serious candidate in '88, but Clinton (on his own or on the advice of others) backed off because of, you know, lurking personal issues.

new quin poll looks pretty bad for anyone outside of the top 3

I should run for president imo

you are already president, imo

(xpost) Meaning Biden, Warren, and Harris or Sanders?

biden warren & sanders

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3637

it's worth mentioning that obama, despite being well-known inside political circles, was still a relative unknown to most of the country in 2008

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, August 6, 2019 2:21 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

right, but he was also one of the more singularly charismatic political orators of the past half-century, which helps. people started talking about him as the first "celebrity president" before he even won the primary (people forgot about reagan, but people's memories are short)

give me that sweet trend data

https://i.imgur.com/ekJsInY.jpg

booker deserves better. he has performed well in the debates so far, and has proposed and defended more progressive legislation than most of his <2% competitors

also, harris has dropped from 20 to 7% in a month

usual caveat: single polls are useless, national polls of primaries are useless.

warren the only one there with anything like a consistent trend afaict.

harris's bounce almost entirely gone. i'd be happier with her as the nominee than biden, but i saw someone (nate silver?) say she was this year's rubio and that felt about right tbh.

If Harris is Rubio what does that make Shakey

warren dominates the field on "who has the best policy ideas" (Q4). but her problem is that she and everyone else apparently believes that biden has the best chance to defeat trump (Q5)

good lord people in this country are fucking stupid

but her problem is that she and everyone else apparently believes that biden has the best chance to defeat trump (Q5)

in classic fashion, i have written a typo-infused dumb sentence while simultaneously criticizing others for being dumb

"who can win" questions are very self-fulfilling/circular. i'd expect whoever is up against biden later in the year to see their numbers on that q go up a lot.

Biden commands the most support from black voters fyi

tell me more about Smone Else, i am intrigued

she sounds hot

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcinema.com%2Fimage_lib%2F6638_heading.jpg&f=1

will obama come out and endorse biden in the primaries? I think he won't.

he will not

No chance.

There's no way Obama endorses any primary candidate. But he'll campaign like hell for the nominee.

is there a poll on who Warren/Sanders voters would pick as a 2nd choice? I'm assuming they'd pick each other and not Biden, which could potentially make things interesting

the problem is neither Sanders nor Warren will drop out

Everyone is qualified for every political job. You have aides and bureaucrats to deal with the paperwork.

i don't know about that, look who is in the white house right now

in some ways, trump is the culmination of a long trend in conservative politics. removing him from office won't fix everything. he's more like a bellwether of something awful.

however, in other ways, like ignoring all aides and bureaucrats and just doing whatever he thinks will benefit him personally, he is uniquely awful

i've mentioned it before, but my big fear, or one of them, is that in 2028 (or whatever) we will be facing a celebrity republican candidate who has the reactionary politics of trump but is not the dumbest fucking person in the history of the universe. that person may be pretty much impossible to defeat

that person is the Rock