Quentin Tarantino's Manson murders movie

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there’s also a non-spotify ep of the New Beverly podcast about his cinematic influences for the movie if yr interested

it’s pretty good! link to podcast in here
https://www.slashfilm.com/quentin-tarantino-podcast/

yeah I listen to Pure Cinema semi-regularly - link for anyone else curious

once upon a boomer nostalgia porn

morbs is that you?

yes i'm the only Tarantella skeptic on earth

K Austin Collins must be me too

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/07/tarantino-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-revenge-fantasy-manson-family

So what did you think about the movie, Morbs?

I skimmed the Vanity Fair quickly--it doesn't seem to be a pan (at the very least, half-and-half).

hey Mood -- nothing post-IB and I will die that way

The Wiki for James Stacy, the actor played by Timothy Olyphant in OUATIH, is a real rollercoaster pic.twitter.com/87eYHrNaz4

— Very Stable Pagliacci (@writtenlow) August 6, 2019

jesus

Hey guys! So I am gonna see this next week!

we cant wait for you to hate it lol

ilx discussion to-date makes me expect I will like it tbh

going again tonight ($5 DCP screening)

Tarantino should totally do a Tiranic film where they kick that fuckin' iceberg's ass

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, August 4, 2019 8:37 PM (two days ago)

^^^^^
Lol.

xpost :D

HUSH
HUSH

NAAAAAAH
NANA
NAAHHH
NANA
NAAHHH
NANA
NAAHHH

(BOMP BOMP BOMP BA BOMP BA BOMP BOMP)

That song makes everything better despite its crap lyrics.

Killer jams & crap lyrics is Deep Purple’s eternal guarantee to you

The jams transcend.

it’s kinda crazy that Hush is their first single. like, way to make an entrance.

Ian Paice is so funky

Purple didn’t write Hush tho, Joe South did

oh thats true huh
well, still very on-brand for them

Deep Purple were awesome, I won't countenance any argument on that point

no one itt has suggested otherwise

I'm just preempting any potential argument

there will be no such thing while i live & breathe

I still am thinking a lot about the movie

One of the things I really like but that has been slow to coalesce for me is the character of Rick.

There is something about his flawed shallowness that is poignant. It’s weirdly touching to see Rick slowly grasp some basic fundamentals of acting. while it’s funny to see his mind get blown by little Maddie’s truthbombs, it also in a subtle way strikes at the heart of this breed of actor that Tarantino is showing us. he came to Hollywood to be The Guy, to be cool & handsome & say the lines in the right way, and his whole career was made on that alone.

His discovery of something more than that, of an enjoyment of going a little deeper, is important, but in a small, seemingly insignificant way storywise.

it gives him a little bit of hope that there is still enjoyment in this for him. Even in a villain role in someone else’s show. That makes him less worried about failing & maybe lets him enjoy the possibility of doing something different to what he’s done befire. that seems to be why he changes his mind about going to Italy.

It’s not that now he understands acting & is going to build on that to hone his craft & blow everyone away. He’s still Rick Dalton & his learning curve is fairly shallow. But maybe now that he’s seen that all of his experience, even the bad parts, makes his acting better, not worse, maybe just -knowing~ that means he won’t ever go back to the point where blowing his brains out in the pool is even a remote possibilty.

I dunno. I’ve always been interested in that idea from tv and b movies anyway. The struggles of an ~average~ actor and how many (unlike Rick) never made it past their worst, loneliest moment.

*maddie? trudi

In The Los Angeles Times, Mary McNamara observed that the moral of Tarantino’s new fairy tale, “Once Upon A Time In … Hollywood,” is, “Who doesn’t miss the good old days when cars had fins and white men were the heroes of everything?”

Dubbing the cowboys-versus-hippies movie starring Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio “nostalgia porn,” McNamara notes: “Watching two middle-aged white guys grapple with a world that does not value them as much as they believe it should, it was tough not to wonder if that something was the same narrow, reductive and mythologized view of history that has made red MAGA hats the couture of conservative fashion.”

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Lol I've been pleasantly surprised by how few unfair negative reviews and insane takes like that there have been

Not inconceivable I will see this in theaters a 3rd time.

they grapple with it... successfully! Pacino's character giving forward-looking advice that Dalton actually takes, playing a role where he's not immediately recognizable and then spinning his career off into Italy for his own fistful of dollars, as it was

you could even claim this is an alternate history where an aging white man adapts for the times in order to make it

otm

and Cliff drives a Karmann Ghia.

watching two middle-aged white guys grapple with a world that does not value them as much as they believe it should

Dalton doesn't believe the world should value him - basically the whole movie he's struggling with believing he's a fraud!

loved Cliff's Karmann Ghia, it made me miss mine so bad

looked like the same one Uma drove in Kill Bill 2

it was!

God, I just realized that Pacino does the ending of Scarface in the first scene

How so?

I liked Pacino, but I don't get that either (conceding that I have thankfully forgotten most everything from Scarface).

I haven't seen Scarface in a long, long time myself, but it's the moment where Pacino pretends to be firing a machine gun at a room full of people while he's enthusing about Leo's action movies - you know, "I like the ones with a lot of killing," and Leo bashfully saying "Yeah, there's a lotta killing." Anyway, in that moment Pacino is basically re-doing the "say hello to my little friend!" moment from Scarface in miniature in an L.A. restaurant instead of in a cokelord's mansion with an actual gun as The Law closes in.

Good catch, Flappy. I *knew* there was something else in that scene but I didn't quite grasp it during either of my two viewings of Once Upon...

We'll see if this link works when I post it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GyInWVCxGw

iirc the flamethrower comes from that scene too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAF5c8bGN0M

Yea, what Ray said. "I love those movies, with all the killing" and then he does the machine gun thing